saxagael
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Post by saxagael on Mar 31, 2024 10:17:19 GMT -5
Why Doesn’t Stanford use the portal Somewhat of a long story that may change with current realities, but they have never taken more than a handful of transfers, athletic or not. They believe strongly in the filtration of their entrance regimen. Just like Cal the grad schools are extremely hard if not near impossible to get into for athletes. Cal has had the same situation. An athlete may be able to get into one or two of the social science grad schools (public policy, I believe) but the rest are non approachable for athletes. So to get around it, they always have accepted transfers, but have develop a certificate program lately. Hope this helps. I am teasing about 'furd, as there is mutual respect except in Big Game weeks. Grads even intermarry---not like 'cuse and G'town...But then the academics are very different at those two. Cal's public policy grad program isn't that easy to get into. Cal programs for grad transfers are often sports management (not easy to get into, but has a few athletes in it). But correct Cal's grad programs require students to quality no matter if they are an athlete or not. Stanford is difficult to transfer into and need classes to transfer for regular students and there is no exception for athlete's transferring. If Stanford sports teams want to offer an athlete they need to be able to go through regular admissions for transfers. Not impossible, but it isn't like Kansas or other programs where the sports teams drive decisions.
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Post by bearsandbulls on Mar 31, 2024 12:25:10 GMT -5
I am not completely sure if we have a Sports Mgt. program yet at Cal, but would love one. What there is that is new, is some form of a certificate program that has been used for grad transfers. And yes, the public policy program is not easy to enter but is the easiest. The others are nigh impossible especially for an athlete. Have a grandson graduating from the school of Architecture there who was a HS BB player. He laughs about doing a sport with the time he spends with academics. No way. He chides the computer science students that he spends more all nighters. And as opposed to private education, which I have come to love with two granddaughters GU grads, Cal is dog eat dog---you are very aware you are a number and keep your number afloat. The curve there is low B, where as at 'furd I have heard it is A-....Just a different approach. Both work.
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Post by thedragon on Mar 31, 2024 14:17:17 GMT -5
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Post by hoyas315 on Mar 31, 2024 15:23:48 GMT -5
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Post by jwp91 on Mar 31, 2024 16:25:32 GMT -5
Michigan is after his high school teammate, Wolf, from Yale as well.
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Post by dense on Mar 31, 2024 20:53:51 GMT -5
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Post by bostonfan on Apr 1, 2024 7:46:51 GMT -5
I am happy for Wayne. He was a good player and always played really hard and seemed to be a great teammate and representative of the university. He is at best a role player on a good power 5 team and I think he will be in a more featured role at Hampton next year for his last season of college ball. I hope he does really well. My guess is that this transfer was done with Cooley's blessing.
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 1, 2024 8:50:29 GMT -5
"College basketball transfer portal: Ohio State, Georgetown among possible fits for Meechie Johnson... Like all high-major transfer portal decisions, NIL is expected to play a major factor in Johnson's next stop. He signed with Ohio State originally as a four-star prospect in 2020 and played his first two years under former Buckeyes coach Chris Holtmann... GEORGETOWN HOYAS Second-year Georgetown coach Ed Cooley needs talent and sources have told 247Sports that the Hoyas are going to be free-spenders in NIL. Based on his previous success over his decade-long stint at Providence, Cooley can show transfers that by Year 2 with his own roster, the turnaround can begin. There's going to be some guard spots open, too. After winning just two games in 20 tries against Big East competition this season, Cooley plans to transfer his roster and it starts in the backcourt." 247sports.com/college/transfer-portal/longformarticle/college-basketball-transfer-portal-ohio-state-georgetown-among-possible-fits-for-meechie-johnson--229695551/#2398444
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Post by hibernatinghoyafan on Apr 1, 2024 9:32:52 GMT -5
"College basketball transfer portal: Ohio State, Georgetown among possible fits for Meechie Johnson... Like all high-major transfer portal decisions, NIL is expected to play a major factor in Johnson's next stop. He signed with Ohio State originally as a four-star prospect in 2020 and played his first two years under former Buckeyes coach Chris Holtmann... GEORGETOWN HOYAS Second-year Georgetown coach Ed Cooley needs talent and sources have told 247Sports that the Hoyas are going to be free-spenders in NIL. Based on his previous success over his decade-long stint at Providence, Cooley can show transfers that by Year 2 with his own roster, the turnaround can begin. There's going to be some guard spots open, too. After winning just two games in 20 tries against Big East competition this season, Cooley plans to transfer his roster and it starts in the backcourt." 247sports.com/college/transfer-portal/longformarticle/college-basketball-transfer-portal-ohio-state-georgetown-among-possible-fits-for-meechie-johnson--229695551/#2398444He’s a lock back to Ohio State
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Post by saxagael on Apr 1, 2024 10:07:57 GMT -5
I am not completely sure if we have a Sports Mgt. program yet at Cal, but would love one. What there is that is new, is some form of a certificate program that has been used for grad transfers. And yes, the public policy program is not easy to enter but is the easiest. The others are nigh impossible especially for an athlete. Have a grandson graduating from the school of Architecture there who was a HS BB player. He laughs about doing a sport with the time he spends with academics. No way. He chides the computer science students that he spends more all nighters. And as opposed to private education, which I have come to love with two granddaughters GU grads, Cal is dog eat dog---you are very aware you are a number and keep your number afloat. The curve there is low B, where as at 'furd I have heard it is A-....Just a different approach. Both work. There is one. It is the program Jalen Brown took a class in as a freshman and had to get the grad school program to sign-off so he could take a grad school class he didn't have any prior requirements for, but he got the waiver and did well in the class. The Pac-12 organization has reruited from Cal's program as welll as Stanford and USC's similar programs.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 1, 2024 10:40:23 GMT -5
Cal does not have a dedicated sports management graduate program. There is a track (or classes) within the business school but I think that’s it.
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Post by trotters10 on Apr 1, 2024 12:30:56 GMT -5
I hope Cooley is cooking behind the scenes, because I'm going to start getting real nervous if we haven't landed an assistant or any portal guys by the end of this week. I know it's still relatively early, and there will still be a lot good players funneling into the portal, but as a die hard G'Town fan, this has an eerily similar feel to last season (and the years before). I'm sure I don't speak for just myself, but this a fragile fan base that has put up with a ton the last 5-6 seasons (particularly the last 3). Cooley needs to hit some home runs soon (or at least some triples). If he doesn't, I'm not sure what's left of the fanbase will still be here, and all that momentum Ed brought with him last season will really die out. We had some good student turnouts this past season, and Cooley probably had a freebie year last year to post a poor record and keep the fans and students hopeful, but it does feel like if we can't play close to .500 ball in the Big East this year, and around .500 for our overall record, it'll be really hard to get this ship righted --- from both a player perspective and fan perspective.
I personally still remain hopeful. Fielder looks like he's staying (which is huge for me). I do think we land our assistant this week (and I do think it'll be Kenny Johnson), and even though there's not much noise out there, the noise I have heard still leads me to believe we are the front runners for Malik Mack. It doesn't look like Dug McDaniel and G'Town is happening, so I'm going to take the optimistic approach here and believe that's because we're closing in on Mack, and put most of our eggs in that basket. There's been essentially zero smoke about Mack being linked to another team. Give me Perkins, maybe Oweh and legit big PF/C to go with Mack, and I'll be happy Hoya fan (which hasn't happened in a long time)!
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Apr 1, 2024 12:39:39 GMT -5
If I see one more “👀” emoji on Twitter from Hoyas “insider” accounts I’m gonna lose my mind
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Post by hibernatinghoyafan on Apr 1, 2024 12:51:41 GMT -5
If I see one more “👀” emoji on Twitter from Hoyas “insider” accounts I’m gonna lose my mind If you want any actual insights (assuming Cooley and Co haven’t completely shut off info leaking after Hilltop article), then you (and anyone) need to join Trilly’s discord. Great Hoya community on there and any breaking news will most likely hit there first.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Apr 1, 2024 13:12:35 GMT -5
If I see one more “👀” emoji on Twitter from Hoyas “insider” accounts I’m gonna lose my mind If you want any actual insights (assuming Cooley and Co haven’t completely shut off info leaking after Hilltop article), then you (and anyone) need to join Trilly’s discord. Great Hoya community on there and any breaking news will most likely hit there first. Thank you
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Post by dense on Apr 1, 2024 14:37:25 GMT -5
If you want any actual insights (assuming Cooley and Co haven’t completely shut off info leaking after Hilltop article), then you (and anyone) need to join Trilly’s discord. Great Hoya community on there and any breaking news will most likely hit there first. Thank you Yeah Trilly dropped some gems today. One player seems done and another soon. Then a third that no one is mentioning anywhere till today there is alot of smoke.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 1, 2024 15:17:59 GMT -5
Yeah Trilly dropped some gems today. One player seems done and another soon. Then a third that no one is mentioning anywhere till today there is alot of smoke. "seems done" = incoming or outgoing?
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Post by jwp91 on Apr 1, 2024 15:45:25 GMT -5
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Post by RBHoya on Apr 1, 2024 15:55:08 GMT -5
Yeah Trilly dropped some gems today. One player seems done and another soon. Then a third that no one is mentioning anywhere till today there is alot of smoke. "seems done" = incoming or outgoing? No offense to dense but "one player done and another soon" seems a touch overstated, IMHO. Sometimes I think people hear/read what they want to in these types of discussions, including the likes of Hilltop Hoops and Thompsons Towel who then perpetuate it to the masses. In this case somebody said that he's hearing a certain player to Georgetown is just a matter of time and Trilly Donovan endorsed that person as plugged in enough to know even though he himself hasn't heard. Trilly then said the only name he's hearing right now for another player is Georgetown. Is that positive news? Yea I'd say so, and maybe commitments will follow soon. But I wouldn't say it's substantive enough to feel like anything is done. Also remember that for a while all the buzz was that Mintz to Georgetown was a near lock, and Bryce Hopkins to Georgetown after the season was a near lock before that. When Dug McDaniel hit the portal Trilly tweeted "DMV = Dug McDaniel visits" and since then Maryland filled their PG slot elsewhere and McDaniel has scheduled visits to TCU and Kansas State. I don't doubt that trilly is pretty well-connected to a number of sources and therefore is among the first to know on a lot of these things. But it's all very fluid, and there's a healthy dose of tea leaf reading, dot connecting, and sometimes outright speculation mixed in with all this. We are all craving good news so badly that we gobble this stuff up, and following the chatter can be entertaining. But given how things have gone in recent years, I would recommend against taking anything as "done" until it's all the way official.
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Post by dense on Apr 1, 2024 16:14:50 GMT -5
"seems done" = incoming or outgoing? No offense to dense but "one player done and another soon" seems a touch overstated, IMHO. Sometimes I think people hear/read what they want to in these types of discussions, including the likes of Hilltop Hoops and Thompsons Towel who then perpetuate it to the masses. In this case somebody said that he's hearing a certain player to Georgetown is just a matter of time and Trilly Donovan endorsed that person as plugged in enough to know even though he himself hasn't heard. Trilly then said the only name he's hearing right now for another player is Georgetown. Is that positive news? Yea I'd say so, and maybe commitments will follow soon. But I wouldn't say it's substantive enough to feel like anything is done. Also remember that for a while all the buzz was that Mintz to Georgetown was a near lock, and Bryce Hopkins to Georgetown after the season was a near lock before that. When Dug McDaniel hit the portal Trilly tweeted "DMV = Dug McDaniel visits" and since then Maryland filled their PG slot elsewhere and McDaniel has scheduled visits to TCU and Kansas State. I don't doubt that trilly is pretty well-connected to a number of sources and therefore is among the first to know on a lot of these things. But it's all very fluid, and there's a healthy dose of tea leaf reading, dot connecting, and sometimes outright speculation mixed in with all this. We are all craving good news so badly that we gobble this stuff up, and following the chatter can be entertaining. But given how things have gone in recent years, I would recommend against taking anything as "done" until it's all the way official. That's the another soon first part. That's not the seems done one. The one that seems done is thru Trilly and IG and twitter. All coming up the same thjng.
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