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Post by EasyEd on Jun 8, 2022 20:17:13 GMT -5
Sure. This sums it up for me. Where was the outrage when somebody was foiled in their attempt to kill Tony Fauci, just to name one other. Favorite tactic: try to change the subject. I didn't ask for outrage.
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 8, 2022 20:23:01 GMT -5
"Pro-life" violent extremism?
When filing their amicus brief in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, the case that will likely overturn Roe, a group of feminists made sure to mention the antiabortion right’s violent track record:
Acts of anti-abortion violence during the period from 1977 to 2019 include at least 11 murders, 26 attempted murders and at least 756 threats of harm or death, 620 stalking incidents and four kidnappings. Crimes directed at clinic facilities have included at least 42 bombings, 189 arsons, 100 attempted bombings or arsons, and 662 bomb threats. The actual numbers are likely much higher.
Among these incidents were the 2009 assassination of George Tiller, a Wichita, Kansas doctor who performed late-term abortions, while he was at church and a 1997 abortion clinic bombing outside Atlanta that killed two and injured six. (The perpetrator of the latter, antiabortion extremist Eric Rudolph is currently serving a life sentence at the ADX Florence Supermax prison.)
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Post by hoyajinx on Jun 8, 2022 20:30:42 GMT -5
Sure. This sums it up for me. Where was the outrage when somebody was foiled in their attempt to kill Tony Fauci, just to name one other. Favorite tactic: try to change the subject. I didn't ask for outrage. Oh Ed, you are absolutely priceless.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 8, 2022 22:05:50 GMT -5
Sure. This sums it up for me. Where was the outrage when somebody was foiled in their attempt to kill Tony Fauci, just to name one other. Favorite tactic: try to change the subject. I didn't ask for outrage. Did not change the subject at all. Nobody should be subjected to attempts to kill them. You changed the subject on yourself by talking about Schumer. You’ve got a sliding scale on this but you won’t admit it. That’s fine. I disagree. That’s also fine. I know Schumer’s comments from 2020 are all over conservative websites and Newsmax / Fox but he retracted them in 2020. www.newsweek.com/chuck-schumer-brett-kavanaugh-roe-v-wade-pay-price-comment-1713964As for outrage, sure I was being hyperbolic, but where were you when the same thing happened to Tony Fauci? Crickets.
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Post by hoya73 on Jun 9, 2022 9:52:53 GMT -5
OK, here goes. The guy who was arrested wanted to kill Kavanaugh, nor because of Roe, and not for any leftist reason, but because he didn't trust Kavanaugh to be strong enough of a second amendment absolutist.. Lets hear apologies to Schumer from Ed
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Post by hoyajinx on Jun 9, 2022 10:16:07 GMT -5
OK, here goes. The guy who was arrested wanted to kill Kavanaugh, nor because of Roe, and not for any leftist reason, but because he didn't trust Kavanaugh to be strong enough of a second amendment absolutist.. Lets hear apologies to Schumer from Ed Edited. Just because you disagree with someone do not accuse them of bad faith in their comments.--Admin
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Post by hoyajinx on Jun 9, 2022 12:19:13 GMT -5
OK, here goes. The guy who was arrested wanted to kill Kavanaugh, nor because of Roe, and not for any leftist reason, but because he didn't trust Kavanaugh to be strong enough of a second amendment absolutist.. Lets hear apologies to Schumer from Ed Edited. Just because you disagree with someone do not accuse them of bad faith in their comments.--AdminFair enough. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt. If it’s not bad faith, it’s astonishingly hypocritical, shows unparalleled cognitive dissonance, and is emblematic of his repeated indifference to facts and reason. There is no other way to describe an argument that draws a straight line of accountability between a comment that Schumer made almost 2 years ago to yesterday’s news, and finding no connection between Trump exhorting people to “stop the steal” and march on the Capitol, and shortly thereafter those people doing the very same. So if it wasn’t an argument made in bad faith, then… yikes.
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Post by DallasHoya on Jun 9, 2022 13:12:51 GMT -5
OK, here goes. The guy who was arrested wanted to kill Kavanaugh, nor because of Roe, and not for any leftist reason, but because he didn't trust Kavanaugh to be strong enough of a second amendment absolutist.. Lets hear apologies to Schumer from Ed I don't think that's right. According the FBI Affidavit: "Roske indicated that he believed the Justice that he intended to kill would side with Second Amendment decisions that would loosen gun control laws." In other words, the guy was in favor of more gun control, not less.
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Post by hoyajinx on Jun 9, 2022 13:24:51 GMT -5
OK, here goes. The guy who was arrested wanted to kill Kavanaugh, nor because of Roe, and not for any leftist reason, but because he didn't trust Kavanaugh to be strong enough of a second amendment absolutist.. Lets hear apologies to Schumer from Ed I don't think that's right. According the FBI Affidavit: "Roske indicated that he believed the Justice that he intended to kill would side with Second Amendment decisions that would loosen gun control laws." In other words, the guy was in favor of more gun control, not less. There’s little doubt that this guy was definitely very into left wing causes. Curious what his mind set was that he would call 911 and inform them of his intent.
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 9, 2022 13:38:25 GMT -5
I don't think that's right. According the FBI Affidavit: "Roske indicated that he believed the Justice that he intended to kill would side with Second Amendment decisions that would loosen gun control laws." In other words, the guy was in favor of more gun control, not less. There’s little doubt that this guy was definitely very into left wing causes. Curious what his mind set was that he would call 911 and inform them of his intent. Could have been a bungled suicide-by-cop scenario.
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Post by hoyajinx on Jun 9, 2022 13:52:47 GMT -5
There’s little doubt that this guy was definitely very into left wing causes. Curious what his mind set was that he would call 911 and inform them of his intent. Could have been a bungled suicide-by-cop scenario. True. But it very well could have played out that way anyway had he tried to enter the home. Assuming he knew the marshals who first spotted him were law enforcement of some sort, he could have made the attempt and it would have played out as he said he planned or it would have been suicide-by-cop had he been thwarted mid attempt. Whether it was a true attempted assassination or whether it was a suicide-by-cop gone awry, he thankfully seemed to get cold feet in either instance.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 9, 2022 14:39:47 GMT -5
Of course, it really depends which Justice and on what side of your litmus test they fall as to whether we shout from the podium in the halls of Congress.
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Post by tashoya on Jun 9, 2022 14:56:08 GMT -5
I don't think that's right. According the FBI Affidavit: "Roske indicated that he believed the Justice that he intended to kill would side with Second Amendment decisions that would loosen gun control laws." In other words, the guy was in favor of more gun control, not less. There’s little doubt that this guy was definitely very into left wing causes. Curious what his mind set was that he would call 911 and inform them of his intent. He's mentally unwell, perhaps?
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Post by TC on Jun 9, 2022 14:57:23 GMT -5
Any comments on foiled attempt to murder Justice Kavanaugh? He deserves the same protection as my kids do going to school. If you want to protect him, change the gun laws.
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Post by DallasHoya on Jun 9, 2022 17:35:53 GMT -5
I don't think that's right. According the FBI Affidavit: "Roske indicated that he believed the Justice that he intended to kill would side with Second Amendment decisions that would loosen gun control laws." In other words, the guy was in favor of more gun control, not less. There’s little doubt that this guy was definitely very into left wing causes. Curious what his mind set was that he would call 911 and inform them of his intent. That's why I posted the link - Hoya73 was completely wrong.
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 9, 2022 20:41:17 GMT -5
There’s little doubt that this guy was definitely very into left wing causes. Curious what his mind set was that he would call 911 and inform them of his intent. He's mentally unwell, perhaps? On the 911 recordings, Roske calmly answered questions, telling the operator how he had just flown in from California and had planned to hurt Kavanaugh and then himself. He said that his gun was locked in a case in his suitcase and that he needed psychiatric help. Eventually, sirens could be heard. Roske said he hadn’t been drinking or using drugs. When asked if he needed medical attention, Roske said, “I need psychiatric help.” www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/06/09/roske-kavanaugh-911-tapes/
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Post by Massholya on Jun 9, 2022 21:47:09 GMT -5
Any comments on foiled attempt to murder Justice Kavanaugh? He deserves the same protection as my kids do going to school. If you want to protect him, change the gun laws. Kudos to you for saying this. I was going to respond to his inane comment but I figured “what is the point”? The lens through which he sees life is so strange that I don’t think there could ever be any event that could cause him to reconsider. There is no “coming to Jesus” moment here. Why does Brett Kavanaugh deserve more protection than innocent children or people going grocery shopping? I think I know where Jesus would side here. If this is what gets you “outraged” then I think you are beyond reason and help. Sad really.
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Post by tashoya on Jun 9, 2022 23:28:44 GMT -5
He deserves the same protection as my kids do going to school. If you want to protect him, change the gun laws. Kudos to you for saying this. I was going to respond to his inane comment but I figured “what is the point”? The lens through which he sees life is so strange that I don’t think there could ever be any event that could cause him to reconsider. There is no “coming to Jesus” moment here. Why does Brett Kavanaugh deserve more protection than innocent children or people going grocery shopping? I think I know where Jesus would side here. If this is what gets you “outraged” then I think you are beyond reason and help. Sad really. Agree. That said, while I don't condone violence against anyone, at least Kavanaugh has been lucky enough to have lived enough years for someone to find reasons to hate him. And, if such a person is sufficiently mentally ill, they may be able to construct some irrational reason to attempt to attack him. The same cannot be said for the young children that continue to die in our schools. And, luckily for that person, it's EXCEEDINGLY easy for him to get his hands on an assault rifle entirely legally. Since "Republicans" have now weaponized abortion, I'm wondering how they'll react when some far right wingnut shoots up an abortion clinic somewhere killing pregnant mothers. I assume they'll say that the mothers had it coming in some way because they were at an abortion clinic and it's a travesty that the unborn perished. Also, that the mothers and the doctors should have assault weapons. Because, ya know, "a good person with a gun," horseshiite rationale which everyone knows is entirely fallacious. There really should have been a few extra commandments. Thou shalt be less stupid. Thou shalt not be lacking a moral compass. Thou shalt not hide behind a work of fiction crafted by illiterate people from 3000 years ago in your attempts to defend your sensibilities in the present. All that said, if you "Republicans" are pro-life, why are you so against any social programs that help single parents, orphans, homeless children and universal health care? And, HTF are you entirely unphased by school children being assassinated while attending school? Also, please note that Ed didn't endorse any sort of gun laws while attempting to make his entirely disingenuous and false equivalence. Pathetic and sad. He thought he was saying one thing but, apparently, he didn't realize he was just showing his a$$.
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Post by tashoya on Jun 9, 2022 23:45:45 GMT -5
Favorite tactic: try to change the subject. I didn't ask for outrage. Oh Ed, you are absolutely priceless. You have an odd definition of, "priceless." It's not a synonym for shameless or clueless, right?
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 10, 2022 4:49:20 GMT -5
Oh Ed, you are absolutely priceless. You have an odd definition of, "priceless." It's not a synonym for shameless or clueless, right? How about definition #3 without the "delightfully"? Meriam-Webster: Definition of priceless 1a: having a value beyond any price : INVALUABLE b: costly because of rarity or quality : PRECIOUS 2: having worth in terms of other than market value 3: delightfully amusing, odd, or absurd
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