drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Jan 13, 2022 14:05:05 GMT -5
There’s a guy coaching at Iona who might be interested. A solid coaching record, minus a few discrepancies. Being a little facetious. But just as he brought Providence to prominence a guy like Pitino was then—young, hungry, and a good record at a low D1 or even quality D2 program. They’re out there. Valvano same background. Last name ending in vowel also important. |
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Jan 13, 2022 14:22:50 GMT -5
A solid coaching record, minus a few discrepancies. Being a little facetious. But just as he brought Providence to prominence a guy like Pitino was then—young, hungry, and a good record at a low D1 or even quality D2 program. They’re out there. Valvano same background. Last name ending in vowel also important. Eh, he's a winner no doubt. It's just that he's not as pure as the driven snow. That's probably not for the liking for some of the masses who support GU. |
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Jan 13, 2022 14:32:09 GMT -5
Mark Turgeon is available to take over the helm.  Mark Turgeon: 476-275 (.634) overall, 226-116 (.661) at Maryland. Patrick Ewing: 68-65 (.511) If you think Turgeon is bad, what does that make Ewing? Where did I state that MT was bad? I just stated he was available. I thought he was a decent coach, and he recruited well in the state of Maryland (more so Bino Ranson who did the heavy lifting, and now is at DePaul). It's just that speaking with some UMD fans and reading some material online. They felt like he didn't get the most out of his roster that he built, and was very mediocre to say the least. |
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 13, 2022 15:33:48 GMT -5
Mark Turgeon: 476-275 (.634) overall, 226-116 (.661) at Maryland. Patrick Ewing: 68-65 (.511) If you think Turgeon is bad, what does that make Ewing? Where did I state that MT was bad? I just stated he was available. I thought he was a decent coach, and he recruited well in the state of Maryland (more so Bino Ranson who did the heavy lifting, and now is at DePaul). It's just that speaking with some UMD fans and reading some material online. They felt like he didn't get the most out of his roster that he built, and was very mediocre to say the least. If Turgeon is "very mediocre to say the least", what is Ewing? |
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 13, 2022 15:49:39 GMT -5
Where did I state that MT was bad? I just stated he was available. I thought he was a decent coach, and he recruited well in the state of Maryland (more so Bino Ranson who did the heavy lifting, and now is at DePaul). It's just that speaking with some UMD fans and reading some material online. They felt like he didn't get the most out of his roster that he built, and was very mediocre to say the least. If Turgeon is "very mediocre to say the least", what is Ewing? Turgeon's record wasn't great, but it wasn't horrible either. He made five tournament appearances, one Sweet 16, and he actually had a good team (definite tournament team) in the COVID cancelled year. Counting 2020 as a tournament appearance, he made the tournament 6 of his last 7 years. That's actually above average when it comes to NCAA appearances. Of course, he only made it past the first round once, though. |
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Jan 13, 2022 16:09:40 GMT -5
Where did I state that MT was bad? I just stated he was available. I thought he was a decent coach, and he recruited well in the state of Maryland (more so Bino Ranson who did the heavy lifting, and now is at DePaul). It's just that speaking with some UMD fans and reading some material online. They felt like he didn't get the most out of his roster that he built, and was very mediocre to say the least. If Turgeon is "very mediocre to say the least", what is Ewing? You have to reach out to UMD fans to get their assessment of MT. |
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miracles87
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Post by miracles87 on Jan 13, 2022 19:14:34 GMT -5
Can't help but wonder at calling Ewing's Marquette post game actions "weak". "Weak", in this case, would seem to imply that Ewing was engaged in some kind of coaching theater, that he didn't necessarily mean what he said.
Seems to me, the one thing we know to an absolute certainty about Coach Ewing, is that he is going to do this his way. He is not trying to please anyone, he's just trying to be successful the best way he knows how. Ewing seems super comfortable in his own skin as one might imagine he would be.
One can only hope that his years as the star center of the Knicks prepared him for the hysterical nattering nabobs on the Hoyatalk board...
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Post by HometownHoya on Jan 13, 2022 21:15:01 GMT -5
I hear Patrick didn’t even show up for the press conference tonight!
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Post by hsaxon on Jan 14, 2022 22:28:13 GMT -5
Can't help but wonder at calling Ewing's Marquette post game actions "weak". "Weak", in this case, would seem to imply that Ewing was engaged in some kind of coaching theater, that he didn't necessarily mean what he said. Seems to me, the one thing we know to an absolute certainty about Coach Ewing, is that he is going to do this his way. He is not trying to please anyone, he's just trying to be successful the best way he knows how. Ewing seems super comfortable in his own skin as one might imagine he would be. One can only hope that his years as the star center of the Knicks prepared him for the hysterical nattering nabobs on the Hoyatalk board... I don't blame Patrick for ending the presser after his statement. Nothing good was going to come from taking questions. Sometimes you must shut up and leave. |
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Post by tashoya on Jan 14, 2022 22:33:14 GMT -5
I couldn't care any less that Patrick decided to walk out. As long as it's not a regular occurrence, I don't see the issue. He's not going to solve any team issues by talking to the press. I'd rather him spend the time after the game airing out his players because it was warranted.
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Post by prhoya on Jan 14, 2022 23:32:13 GMT -5
I couldn't care any less that Patrick decided to walk out. As long as it's not a regular occurrence, I don't see the issue. He's not going to solve any team issues by talking to the press. I'd rather him spend the time after the game airing out his players because it was warranted. I disagree. Press conferences burst the TAC/McD bubble. It was the only place where JT3 couldn’t hide from facing tough questions. That is, until his dad would intervene. Someone needs to start asking Ewing the tough questions JT3 faced towards the end. |
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Post by dchoya72 on Jan 15, 2022 4:57:38 GMT -5
What are the tough questions one expects a head coach to answer?
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 15, 2022 7:30:31 GMT -5
What are the tough questions one expects a head coach to answer? Have you received a contract extension? 😁 Any change in your coaching staff expected?😁 |
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drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Jan 15, 2022 9:11:53 GMT -5
Being a little facetious. But just as he brought Providence to prominence a guy like Pitino was then—young, hungry, and a good record at a low D1 or even quality D2 program. They’re out there. Valvano same background. Last name ending in vowel also important. Eh, he's a winner no doubt. It's just that he's not as pure as the driven snow. That's probably not for the liking for some of the masses who support GU. FWIW Pitino’s Iona is now 13-3. Last night they had 23 assists in their game against Manhattan. Just sayin… |
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Post by hoyajmw on Jan 15, 2022 9:27:14 GMT -5
What are the tough questions one expects a head coach to answer? Have you received a contract extension? 😁 Any change in your coaching staff expected?😁 What role do you think coaching may have played in the game? Anything you would have done differently as a coach, during the game or to prepare for the game? Anything you might do differently going forward? Anything you regret about early season scheduling or that you might change to help the players better prepare for conference play going forward? Esherick made it clear that he felt secure enough in his position/coaching approach, under some very tough/savvy questioning (mainly by Hoya alum/gifted writer/much missed Barker Davis) that he wasn't going to change a thing in his approach ( "I ain't going anywhere. I may be here another 30 years." "90% of the colleges in America would thank God I'm their coach"). And I certainly don't remember any outward indications from JTIII that thought he needed to start with the Man in the Mirror in terms of coaching style/philosophy that would've given comfort that a Change was Gonna Come (to mix my HOF singer references). So I do think the press conferences can serve a productive purpose in terms of going-forward perspectives both for decision-makers and supporters. |
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Post by hoya9797 on Jan 15, 2022 9:37:01 GMT -5
Ewing was very eager to talk about how he shut everyone up after winning the BET last year (he had no trouble accepting personal responsibility for that one) so a question about if he thinks people should still shut up would be nice.
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Post by calhoya on Jan 15, 2022 10:31:04 GMT -5
I think that all representatives of the university, including the basketball team, need to be willing to address the media. Not a fan of members of the media trying to grandstand or create controversy as a means of self-promotion, but have not seen that with respect to Ewing's tenure as the basketball coach. I understand Ewing's frustration with the performance the other night (and give him a pass this time) but as the CEO of this program it is his job to address the situation when performances are terrible. Big John terrorized some members of the media and I enjoyed watching but that was then and this is now. Given that the school is almost always in lockdown mode when it comes to talking about the basketball program, post-game press conferences are one of the few opportunities for anyone to learn anything about what is going on and why. Right now there are so many issues around this program that cutting off communications is adding an unnecessary problem that the school does not need.
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Post by practice on Jan 15, 2022 11:13:01 GMT -5
What are the tough questions one expects a head coach to answer? Have you received a contract extension? 😁 Any change in your coaching staff expected?😁 Can you provide an example of a head coach giving a straight answer after a game about changing his coaching staff or about the details of his contract? Give me a break. There's a lot to criticize Ewing on -- I'm not fan -- but this discussion about him walking out of one press conference after a historically bad performance -- but first giving the press enough quotes to fill 3 columns -- is ridiculous. |
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 15, 2022 11:24:25 GMT -5
Have you received a contract extension? 😁 Any change in your coaching staff expected?😁 Can you provide an example of a head coach giving a straight answer after a game about changing his coaching staff or about the details of his contract? Give me a break. There's a lot to criticize Ewing on -- I'm not fan -- but this discussion about him walking out of one press conference after a historically bad performance -- but first giving the press enough quotes to fill 3 columns -- is ridiculous. practice, the 😁 indicates I am being facetious. Lighten up. I'm not particularly taking his walkout as seriously as others. |
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Post by practice on Jan 15, 2022 11:41:06 GMT -5
Can you provide an example of a head coach giving a straight answer after a game about changing his coaching staff or about the details of his contract? Give me a break. There's a lot to criticize Ewing on -- I'm not fan -- but this discussion about him walking out of one press conference after a historically bad performance -- but first giving the press enough quotes to fill 3 columns -- is ridiculous. practice, the 😁 indicates I am being facetious. Lighten up. I'm not particularly taking his walkout as seriously as others. My bad!!!! Of course hoyajmw followed up with what I believe are sincere crazy questions! I get on here sometimes and it's like whack-a-mole with some of these guys. Apologies ... I blame it on my eyes ..I can't really make out the expression on that emoticon. |
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