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Post by hoyaboya on Jun 6, 2024 14:17:18 GMT -5
"As Dan Hurley explores Lakers' vacancy, college basketball braces for another gut-punch The ailing sport of college basketball is bracing for yet another potential massive blow, as the new face of the coaching fraternity is mulling a possible departure to the NBA... In recent years, the sport has seen four iconic coaches – you know the names – take their combined 11 national titles and retire or step aside: Jay Wright, Jim Boeheim, Mike Krzyzewski and Roy Williams. The sport lacks the star power, much less the star power that remains in school multiple years, that helped it carve out a special niche in the American sporting culture in the 1980s and ’90s, and not just in three weeks in March. But the connective tissue was the coaches, with their stature, gravitas and unique personas. Much of that has been lost. And that’s not even taking into account the significant losses of excellent game coaches like Billy Donovan, Brad Stevens and John Beilein, all of whom reached multiple Final Fours – and in Donovan’s case won two national titles – before leaving for the NBA... As part of the House v. NCAA settlement – if approved by U.S. District Judge Claudia Wilken – schools, at their discretion, will be able to share as much as $22 million annually with athletes. Even many schools in the power conferences are grappling with budget implications related to needing to share as much as $22 million with athletes to remain competitive on the field or the court. But in a football-driven world, UConn competes as an independent. Its Big East membership in other sports, notably men’s and women’s basketball, yields only $4-5 million annually... In a revenue-sharing world, even UConn basketball will be swimming upstream. Consider this admission from UConn Athletic Director David Benedict, who told CTInsider.com: “Honestly, we would never spend up to the cap. We don’t generate enough money to spend up to the cap. Part of this will be driven by the market, like everything else.” There is no indication how, if at all, revenue-sharing challenges on the horizon are factoring into Dan Hurley’s decision. But it is a new reality that Hurley would confront if he remains at UConn." www.on3.com/os/news/dan-hurley-explores-los-angeles-lakers-vacancy-college-basketball-braces-for-another-gut-punch/
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 7, 2024 10:03:42 GMT -5
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jun 7, 2024 11:01:35 GMT -5
According to boya, Patrick Ewing was going to resign after the disastrous 0-20 season. Meanwhile, he never resigned, coached another disastrous season (and still didn't resign and indicated a desire to keep coaching days before he got fired), and instead is still getting paid to be our head coach because of DeGioia's horrible extension. More seriously, it is kind of ironic that there are some people who think Cooley isn't out there enough, and should be talking more and saying more things to the press. At the same time, others criticize him for saying things that are untrue. I actually don't think Cooley has said a whole lot beyond normal coach speak. Most of the things that people get upset over as not being true are things that were reported by Hilltop Hoops (like the transfers that did not happen) or other similar sources. As is typical, since the season ended, we haven't heard much if anything from the staff itself. Instead, we have mostly heard chatter from nameless people on the Internet who claim to know things that they may or may not actually know. For me this is the most sobering aspect of Cooley taking over the reins, my hope was that he’d get Gtown to adapt to him not the other way around.. While I think Cooley has done way more than his predecessors on this, I agree with you that by now I was hoping he'd do better. With respect to Georgetown-campus involvement, I would give Cooley a good grade. He seems like he's on campus a lot, he interacts with students, and he also attends alumni events and goes to gatherings with alumni. That's all crucially important. Who knows how much involvement Ed Cooley had in the recent big donation to Georgetown sports, but I imagine it was a factor in allocating half to basketball. It seems like Cooley's interpersonal and person-to-person charisma is very good. Where I do think Cooley has been lacking, and I know EtomicB will agree with me on this since he's been saying it for a while, is engagement with the media and fan sites, etc. For example, he hasn't done an interview with Hilltop Hoops or Casual Hoya (though I don't blame him for not doing one with the latter). Or even with DFW for the front page of the website. Or to sports reporters. I do think that Providence was so "small" and he essentially lived there forever that Cooley had a better sense there of the best forums, how far to go, etc. I am not so sure that he has as good an understanding of that in DC. And to be fair, the lack of a strong local media in the DC area is an impediment too. But, there are options, and I am hoping that once things shake out with the roster, he'll show up more, especially toward the Fall. Last year, Cooley did not have to do much media stuff because he was new and there was a lot of excitement brewing. The 2 win Big East season really killed a lot of that momentum, and so in November, Cooley is arguably starting from a worse place when it comes to fan engagement (and certainly as to fan attitudes). So, the more he can do, the better.
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Post by calhoya on Jun 7, 2024 13:09:32 GMT -5
For me this is the most sobering aspect of Cooley taking over the reins, my hope was that he’d get Gtown to adapt to him not the other way around.. While I think Cooley has done way more than his predecessors on this, I agree with you that by now I was hoping he'd do better. With respect to Georgetown-campus involvement, I would give Cooley a good grade. He seems like he's on campus a lot, he interacts with students, and he also attends alumni events and goes to gatherings with alumni. That's all crucially important. Who knows how much involvement Ed Cooley had in the recent big donation to Georgetown sports, but I imagine it was a factor in allocating half to basketball. It seems like Cooley's interpersonal and person-to-person charisma is very good. Where I do think Cooley has been lacking, and I know EtomicB will agree with me on this since he's been saying it for a while, is engagement with the media and fan sites, etc. For example, he hasn't done an interview with Hilltop Hoops or Casual Hoya (though I don't blame him for not doing one with the latter). Or even with DFW for the front page of the website. Or to sports reporters. I do think that Providence was so "small" and he essentially lived there forever that Cooley had a better sense there of the best forums, how far to go, etc. I am not so sure that he has as good an understanding of that in DC. And to be fair, the lack of a strong local media in the DC area is an impediment too. But, there are options, and I am hoping that once things shake out with the roster, he'll show up more, especially toward the Fall. Last year, Cooley did not have to do much media stuff because he was new and there was a lot of excitement brewing. The 2 win Big East season really killed a lot of that momentum, and so in November, Cooley is arguably starting from a worse place when it comes to fan engagement (and certainly as to fan attitudes). So, the more he can do, the better. Absolutely true 2003. Cooley proved to be a master at selling the program and reviving interest. Had he followed that with even a respectable season I think that the program would be in much better shape now. Instead we have the disappointment of unmet (and perhaps unrealistic) expectations, for a program that has 4 BE wins in three seasons and plays in a largely empty arena. Cooley in some ways is a victim of his own hype. He simply must have a season which restores hope and interest in this program. Not sure who will be left if the fans have to endure more losses to low major teams in pre-conference and suffer through another season with the team being embarrassed by the play in conference.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Jun 8, 2024 9:10:48 GMT -5
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Post by C86 on Jun 8, 2024 14:45:05 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 12, 2024 8:41:53 GMT -5
This was always an avenue the governing board could have gone down to compensate players but greed clouded their judgement...
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Post by tashoya on Jun 12, 2024 8:46:34 GMT -5
I'm all for athletes getting what they've earned but this is dangerous. Those are not just normal cars. If UT cares about their players, they should send them all to race training before one or more of them get killed.
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 12, 2024 11:53:44 GMT -5
I'm all for athletes getting what they've earned but this is dangerous. Those are not just normal cars. If UT cares about their players, they should send them all to race training before one or more of them get killed. Texas! Yee Haw! Just give 'em AR-15s!
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 12, 2024 13:12:53 GMT -5
No stone unturned...
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 16, 2024 9:29:46 GMT -5
College athletes should think twice before asking to be employees The doctrinaires who would liberate college athletes by defining them as “employees” would in fact be making ditch diggers out of them. Picture a scenario in which 19-year-old Arch Manning has to abide by a labor agreement with the University of Texas that could limit his paid sick leave if he gets hurt, subject him to termination and arbitration clauses and classify his $90,000 scholarship as taxable work income even though it has no cash value. How does that improve his position? www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/06/16/college-sports-unionization-employees/
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Post by RusskyHoya on Jun 16, 2024 10:29:27 GMT -5
College athletes should think twice before asking to be employees The doctrinaires who would liberate college athletes by defining them as “employees” would in fact be making ditch diggers out of them. Picture a scenario in which 19-year-old Arch Manning has to abide by a labor agreement with the University of Texas that could limit his paid sick leave if he gets hurt, subject him to termination and arbitration clauses and classify his $90,000 scholarship as taxable work income even though it has no cash value. How does that improve his position? www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/06/16/college-sports-unionization-employees/Kudos to Sally for pulling the thread here. There's been a lot of willful blindness around the logical consequences of various moves. The previous system of faux amateurism in revenue sports was a farce for many. What comes after risks potentially being even worse.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 19, 2024 11:47:32 GMT -5
There will be a lot more of these moves thanks to NIL
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 19, 2024 11:53:48 GMT -5
There will be a lot more of these moves thanks to NIL And college basketball as we knew it is dead and gone.
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Jun 19, 2024 12:08:20 GMT -5
As we KNEW it - what we knew and loved has already been gone for a while.
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Post by prhoya on Jun 19, 2024 12:10:07 GMT -5
There will be a lot more of these moves thanks to NIL ¿Qué pasa, Ed? Wichita State? Really?! Why does it seem Cooley is a step or two behind the other best paid head coaches in college basketball? Or does he have something up his sleeve?
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 24, 2024 15:41:36 GMT -5
This is what a great administration does for a program & athletic department.
I have know idea where Gtown ranks but it wouldn’t be a bad idea to put something like this together regardless.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jun 24, 2024 15:51:04 GMT -5
This is what a great administration does for a program & athletic department. I have know idea where Gtown ranks but it wouldn’t be a bad idea to put something like this together regardless. The author of this tweet is the co-founder and CEO of Open Endorse. When he says PC has "best in class" NIL, it's basically an ad for his own services. twitter.com/Blake_Lawrence
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 24, 2024 19:02:46 GMT -5
This is what a great administration does for a program & athletic department. I have know idea where Gtown ranks but it wouldn’t be a bad idea to put something like this together regardless. The author of this tweet is the co-founder and CEO of Open Endorse. When he says PC has "best in class" NIL, it's basically an ad for his own services. twitter.com/Blake_Lawrence1000% correct DFW, but it's still a great look for PC's athletic department in my view. Seems obvious they gave the ok for the ad to happen.
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 25, 2024 13:28:13 GMT -5
Scottie Barnes(very good player) is up for a 5 year 270 million dollar contract but NIL is out of control according to Stevens.. smh..
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