NIL-Focused Discussion

[C86]

My prediction: a system in which the boosters pay the kids for the benefit of the University is too unstable to last. The minute NIL money disappears because a kid is cut or the collective refuses to pay, lawyers will be lining up to file a lawsuit against both the collective and the university for breach of contract and fraud. And the discovery will be devastating. The collective and the university will start pointing fingers at each other, and everyone will realize that this system is way more trouble than it is worth.

Or perhaps I'm wrong. A Miami booster assures us that this is completely on the up-and-up, and you can't argue with a source that credible.

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[hoyaboya]

Feckless NCAA president Mark Emmert finally is on his way out and the Transformation Committee is working on a much-needed rewrite of the association’s constitution. That makes this an inflection point for an industry undergoing seismic change. While NIL guardrails are needed, the most glaring existential issues aren’t rooted in NIL excess – no matter what is said by athletic directors who have their eyes on big donor dollars being diverted from traditional athletic department ventures into the coffers of ambitious collectives.

As a new landscape takes shape, college sports will confront at least four consequential challenges the next few years. And it almost certainly will do so with the NCAA existing as a severely diminished entity. The association, with its stature and credibility almost entirely eroded, may be tasked with little more than staging championship events (where it can work further on resolving gender equity issues and not inexplicably leaving billions on the table in basketball tournament media rights deals) and providing an enforcement mechanism with teeth (which it never has done fairly or effectively).

www.on3.com/news/4-big-challenges-face-ncaa-and-its-eventual-new-leader-mark-emmert-replacement/

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[DanMcQ]

[hoyaboya]

Although the NCAA’s current interim policy says to “avoid pay-for-play and improper inducements tied to choosing to attend a particular school,” less than a year into the NIL free-for-all era, pay-for-play schemes are the bread and butter of NIL collectives.

“This goes to the heart of antitrust problem for the NCAA, too, in trying to regulate NIL after it’s already been going on for 10 months: the NIL market generates competition, a core antitrust value,” Sportico legal expert Michael McCann tweeted. “It’s no longer a hypothetical of what happens if. It’s happened and is happening.”

“​​The moment they come to try to interfere with one of my clients’ deals — the next day is the moment they get hit with an antitrust lawsuit,” Mike Caspino, an attorney representing several NIL collective-backed athletes, told The Athletic. “They’re saying there’s a whole class of people (boosters) who can’t participate in the market for athletes’ NIL rights. That’d be like saying red-haired people can’t buy meat. That’s antitrust.”

www.on3.com/nil/news/college-football-lawyers-sports-agents-push-back-on-ncaa-nil-collectives-crack-down-bring-it-gene-smith-legislation/

[BeantownHoya]

[DanMcQ]

[kghoya]

The real NIL partnerships one needs are like the relationships at the U.

[Lethal_Interjection]

[professorhoya]

So does that mean all the Miami athletes are free agents?

[hoyaboya]

May 9, 2022 16:39:13 GMT -5 Lethal_Interjection said:

Darren Heitner, a lawyer with Heitner Legal and a NIL advocate who helped craft Florida’s law, said he didn’t view the guidance as a significant step.

“The NCAA already had NIL rules,” he said. “It just didn’t enforce them. Any enforcement will likely be met with legal challenges. It’s supposed to be guidance, but it doesn’t really say anything outside of classifying collectives as boosters and indicating that violations prior to May 9 will be ignored unless they clearly violated NCAA’s policy.”

“I don’t think this guidance is enough to silence the vocal critics of collectives because it doesn’t appear to provide much clarity,” McGriff told On3. “Simply saying collectives ‘could’ fall under the definition of boosters still leaves room for interpretation. Also, does a prohibition on the booster from recruiting necessarily prevent a collective from merely offering a prospective student a NIL opportunity? I thought that the NCAA was considering draft language that went as far as a ‘no contact’ rule. That didn’t seem to make it into the final guidelines. Ultimately that could be problematic in terms of enforcement.

“I really see this as a going-forward measure. I’d be surprised if any deals already consummated will result in a major NCAA violation.”

www.on3.com/nil/news/ncaas-attempt-to-nix-pay-for-play-nil-deals-not-a-significant-step-forward/

[EtomicB]

[SSHoya]

www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/05/12/nil-rules-ncaa/

[EtomicB]

SMH…….


autos.yahoo.com/autos/ncaa-problem-deion-sanders-says-145230862.html

[hoyaboya]

Blake Lawrence, a co-founder of OpenDorse, a company that helps facilitate endorsement deals for professional athletes, has predicted that each Power 5 football and basketball player can expect to make at least $50,000 in NIL deals “because of the influx of cash from so-called booster.” Lawrence is basing his prediction on the assumption that booster collectives are directing an annual sum of $5 million into NIL pools.

Lawrence said that major five-star recruit could be in store for potential NIL deals north of $1 million per year when money coming from sources outside the booster collective is considered, depending on the position of the player, especially in football. Four-star recruits could earn well into the six figures, but it will be the less coveted recruits that earn in the $50,000 ballpark, “because the booster collective will make sure of it to keep peace on the team,” Lawrence said.

www.on3.com/nil/news/opendorse-co-founder-blake-lawrence-predicts-50k-minimum-pay-each-power-5-basketball-football-player-due-to-nil/

[TC]

May 12, 2022 16:55:37 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

SMH…….


autos.yahoo.com/autos/ncaa-problem-deion-sanders-says-145230862.html

"When you start paying athletes like they're professionals, you get athletes acting like they're professionals," Sanders said.

Healthy amount of projection going on here.

[SSHoya]

The NCAA gave notice recently that penalties could be coming for universities whose boosters use endorsement deals to coax recruits or transfers to enroll amid the evolving rules of amateurism in college sports.

One high-profile booster who’s not worried about the enforcement staff’s scrutiny is Miami graduate John H. Ruiz, a billionaire entrepreneur and lawyer who has pledged to spend at least $10 million on athletes he believes can help promote his businesses.

www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/05/17/john-ruiz-miami-booster-nil-ncaa/

[tgo]

I would love if someone could explain this to me.

I get that some all league level player or the top player or two on a team where that team is the defacto professional sports team for that area have some value as a spokesperson or by putting their mug on a billboard next to a product, but who in the world is going to pay money for anyone else? Why would a business pay Don Carey or anyone who is just a good or even very good but not NBA level college player at school X or Y anything to use his NIL?

[Bigs"R"Us]

I think NIL is a way to purchase players “legally.”

[EtomicB]

www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/bigeast/2022/05/17/jay-wright-villanova-transfer-rule-nil/9794688002/

Wright said the long-term gain of the changes of the new era could be beneficiary to the sport on multiple levels down the line.

“I think we are gonna go through a couple of years where it feels crazy because of the combination of NIL and the transfer portal,” Wright said. “It’s gonna stay crazy compared to what they were. But I think we’re going to see some benefits to all of that. We’re seeing all these guys staying in college now. You’ve got four things as a player: make money, mature as a person, mature as a player and get an education. There’s positive sides.