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Post by hoyaguy on Oct 15, 2021 20:31:23 GMT -5
Umm that is all well and good but what happens when we play a Freemantle type 4 and there is no-one who can actually match up to him and score, I thought King would play more 4 than 5 but either way if no-one takes a big step then we could have two spots without BE caliber starters
Opening game: Dante, Carey, Aminu, Rice, TIm
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Post by hoyaboya on Oct 15, 2021 21:45:43 GMT -5
Umm that is all well and good but what happens when we play a Freemantle type 4 and there is no-one who can actually match up to him and score, I thought King would play more 4 than 5 but either way if no-one takes a big step then we could have two spots without BE caliber starters Opening game: Dante, Carey, Aminu, Rice, TIm I only see 2 Big East quality starters in that group.
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Post by thedragon on Oct 16, 2021 13:26:25 GMT -5
With the TK news, time to adjust. My prediction:
Dante 30 Carey 30 Aminu 25 Rice 25 Tim 20
Beard 10 Riley 15 Clark 10 Holloway/Billingsley 15 Mutombo 20
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Post by dchoya72 on Oct 16, 2021 20:33:18 GMT -5
Interesting -- now Mutombo is now 7-2, and Kobe Clark is 6-6.
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Post by seaweed on Oct 17, 2021 6:34:59 GMT -5
I'm going with: Harris 30 Beard 10 Carey 20 Riley 15 Aminu 5 Aminu 20 Rice 15 Riley 5 King 20 Holloway 15 Billingsley/Clark 5 Tim 20 Mutombo 10 King 10 I dont know if it would go down as a "surprise", but I think Holloway is going to get significant 4 man minutes. Thought I would revisit this w Tre missing, hopefully just for the first few weeks. Per this fairly typical prediction of minutes, we’ll be out about 30 minutes of 4/5 PT. But… Mutombo is good for more than 10 minutes a game. At 7’2”, he can easily fill King’s 10 center minutes and has stretch 4 potential as well. Wilson doesn’t exist here. You heard it here first, Wilson will be in the running for BEAST most Improved Player. Between the 4 and 5, asking for 10 or 15 is reasonable. Billingsley/Clark at 5 is very pessimistic. Either of them can give you five. One of them is going to make it hard to take them out, my money is on Clark stepping out from under last year’s injury problems, but, at least as far as the 4 goes, Billingsley is going to be ready to play as well though and may be a sleeper based on very few projections of more than 5 or so minutes. Five minutes for Jordan Riley? Please! Give him 15 at least, maybe much more. Beard? Same thing - if he only sees five minutes per game, it will be because he got a broken arm or something. Players like him cannot be kept off the court. Kaiden Rice, who averaged 33.8 minutes last year and got up more than 350 shots netting 441 points can certainly play more than 15 per game. Gist of it - fringe returnees like Holloway and Wilson are going to be better than expected and will have to step up, but our frosh will require more minutes than many projected cause they are skilled dogs w size and motor. Small ball lineups that had King at the 5 May now have Billingsley or Mutombo, who can both run the floor and clear the middle and the dude is 7’2” man! We’d all rather see King in the line up and hopefully he’ll be back, but doom and gloom without him is not how I see it.
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Post by dense on Oct 17, 2021 8:27:18 GMT -5
Very interesting if you look at that new video that Georgetown's social media put up. Seems like the guys wearing white were Tim, Jalin, Aminu and Carey. Rice was wearing Blue. So I'm guessing the starting 5 game 1 will be Dante, Don, Aminu, Jalin and Tim.
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Post by conshyhoya on Oct 17, 2021 9:25:10 GMT -5
Very interesting if you look at that new video that Georgetown's social media put up. Seems like the guys wearing white were Tim, Jalin, Aminu and Carey. Rice was wearing Blue. So I'm guessing the starting 5 game 1 will be Dante, Don, Aminu, Jalin and Tim.
With Tre gone this is what I would guess the opening day lineup would be at least for the tip off. I would guess he would use Rice like he did Carey/Blair when they were coming off the bench so I was never thinking Rice would be starting like some included in the new starting lineup.
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Post by thedragon on Oct 17, 2021 9:31:03 GMT -5
I'm going with: Harris 30 Beard 10 Carey 20 Riley 15 Aminu 5 Aminu 20 Rice 15 Riley 5 King 20 Holloway 15 Billingsley/Clark 5 Tim 20 Mutombo 10 King 10 I dont know if it would go down as a "surprise", but I think Holloway is going to get significant 4 man minutes. Thought I would revisit this w Tre missing, hopefully just for the first few weeks. Per this fairly typical prediction of minutes, we’ll be out about 30 minutes of 4/5 PT. But… Mutombo is good for more than 10 minutes a game. At 7’2”, he can easily fill King’s 10 center minutes and has stretch 4 potential as well. Wilson doesn’t exist here. You heard it here first, Wilson will be in the running for BEAST most Improved Player. Between the 4 and 5, asking for 10 or 15 is reasonable. Billingsley/Clark at 5 is very pessimistic. Either of them can give you five. One of them is going to make it hard to take them out, my money is on Clark stepping out from under last year’s injury problems, but, at least as far as the 4 goes, Billingsley is going to be ready to play as well though and may be a sleeper based on very few projections of more than 5 or so minutes. Five minutes for Jordan Riley? Please! Give him 15 at least, maybe much more. Beard? Same thing - if he only sees five minutes per game, it will be because he got a broken arm or something. Players like him cannot be kept off the court. Kaiden Rice, who averaged 33.8 minutes last year and got up more than 350 shots netting 441 points can certainly play more than 15 per game. Gist of it - fringe returnees like Holloway and Wilson are going to be better than expected and will have to step up, but our frosh will require more minutes than many projected cause they are skilled dogs w size and motor. Small ball lineups that had King at the 5 May now have Billingsley or Mutombo, who can both run the floor and clear the middle and the dude is 7’2” man! We’d all rather see King in the line up and hopefully he’ll be back, but doom and gloom without him is not how I see it. 5 minutes for Riley? Try 20 in this older post (I posted updated minutes prediction yesterday). You missed the 15 at the 2 spot. Also, Rice is in the blue workout shirt...not the blue 2nd team penny. I wouldn't read too much into this either way.
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Post by KenteKrazies on Oct 17, 2021 10:19:43 GMT -5
Very interesting if you look at that new video that Georgetown's social media put up. Seems like the guys wearing white were Tim, Jalin, Aminu and Carey. Rice was wearing Blue. So I'm guessing the starting 5 game 1 will be Dante, Don, Aminu, Jalin and Tim. The last time we started a three-star freshman because a player sorta-kinda left the program, he ended up winning BET MOP. This could work.
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Post by hoyaguy on Oct 17, 2021 15:26:41 GMT -5
Very interesting if you look at that new video that Georgetown's social media put up. Seems like the guys wearing white were Tim, Jalin, Aminu and Carey. Rice was wearing Blue. So I'm guessing the starting 5 game 1 will be Dante, Don, Aminu, Jalin and Tim. The last time we started a three-star freshman because a player sorta-kinda left the program, he ended up winning BET MOP. This could work. Yeah if Jalin really is living up to the hype here then I would go now Dante, Carey, Aminu, Jalin, and I am going Ryan because I can see him being more technically sound than Tim especially if he is really 6' 2" and can shoot more without always being back to basket and Rice apparently is eh defensively so he might serve well in spurts off the bench (will also like to see a preview of Dartmouth's team online somewhere before the game to see what they are like)
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Oct 17, 2021 18:09:30 GMT -5
Interesting -- now Mutombo is now 7-2, and Kobe Clark is 6-6. I question Mutombo's height but I think Clark has grown some
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Post by dchoya72 on Oct 17, 2021 18:51:43 GMT -5
Have you seen him? I haven't, but if he is 7-2, he's grown 3 inches since he signed. Has anyone seen him work on the court since he arrived?
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Oct 17, 2021 20:17:26 GMT -5
I hope they're not measuring hair, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2021 20:32:44 GMT -5
I hope they're not measuring hair, lol. His hair is five inches by itself pal!
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Post by wsdhoya on Oct 19, 2021 12:41:12 GMT -5
I think I’ve calmed down a little bit since the King situation became public, but I still think 8-11th in the conference is what can reasonable be expected. This team will need to be well coached because it’s roster is as thin as I can remember any Big East team being, especially down low. Harris will need to have a much more efficient season, which I think he can IF we run an actual offense that makes decisions easier on him. He shot free throws close to 90% last year which would suggest his 3P% will improve, as long as he doesn’t force shots. Obviously Aminu at the 2, Carey at the 3, and then probably Rice at the 4 and Ryan at the 5. Incredibly young lineup that will struggle early but hopefully return next year ready to improve.
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Post by jwp91 on Oct 19, 2021 13:09:43 GMT -5
I think I’ve calmed down a little bit since the King situation became public, but I still think 8-11th in the conference is what can reasonable be expected. This team will need to be well coached because it’s roster is as thin as I can remember any Big East team being, especially down low. Harris will need to have a much more efficient season, which I think he can IF we run an actual offense that makes decisions easier on him. He shot free throws close to 90% last year which would suggest his 3P% will improve, as long as he doesn’t force shots. Obviously Aminu at the 2, Carey at the 3, and then probably Rice at the 4 and Ryan at the 5. Incredibly young lineup that will struggle early but hopefully return next year ready to improve. Don’t expect anything. Just watch and enjoy.
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Post by professorhoya on Oct 19, 2021 13:32:22 GMT -5
I hope they're not measuring hair, lol. His hair is five inches by itself pal! So Mutombo is actually only 6-6.
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Post by professorhoya on Oct 19, 2021 13:33:34 GMT -5
I think I’ve calmed down a little bit since the King situation became public, but I still think 8-11th in the conference is what can reasonable be expected. This team will need to be well coached because it’s roster is as thin as I can remember any Big East team being, especially down low. Harris will need to have a much more efficient season, which I think he can IF we run an actual offense that makes decisions easier on him. He shot free throws close to 90% last year which would suggest his 3P% will improve, as long as he doesn’t force shots. Obviously Aminu at the 2, Carey at the 3, and then probably Rice at the 4 and Ryan at the 5. Incredibly young lineup that will struggle early but hopefully return next year ready to improve. You don't even have Riley in there. Probably should wait to assess till some of the games in Nov-Dec.
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Post by bostonfan on Oct 19, 2021 13:36:55 GMT -5
I think I’ve calmed down a little bit since the King situation became public, but I still think 8-11th in the conference is what can reasonable be expected. This team will need to be well coached because it’s roster is as thin as I can remember any Big East team being, especially down low. Harris will need to have a much more efficient season, which I think he can IF we run an actual offense that makes decisions easier on him. He shot free throws close to 90% last year which would suggest his 3P% will improve, as long as he doesn’t force shots. Obviously Aminu at the 2, Carey at the 3, and then probably Rice at the 4 and Ryan at the 5. Incredibly young lineup that will struggle early but hopefully return next year ready to improve. Don’t expect anything. Just watch and enjoy. I think this years team is going to be very young and inexperienced and will be inconsistent at the start of the season, but I also think they are a more athletic group than they have had recently and will improve as the season progresses and the young players gain confidence. If they can win some close games against teams they should beat (some of the lower ranked out of conference teams that they always seem to struggle against early in the season) while they are gelling, then they will surprise some teams at the end of the season. I am not sure exactly what that translates into for win totals this season, but I don't see any reason why this team can not finish in the middle of the pack in the Big East. Developing a defensive identity as soon as possible this season is going to be key for this group
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Post by wsdhoya on Oct 19, 2021 13:39:56 GMT -5
I think I’ve calmed down a little bit since the King situation became public, but I still think 8-11th in the conference is what can reasonable be expected. This team will need to be well coached because it’s roster is as thin as I can remember any Big East team being, especially down low. Harris will need to have a much more efficient season, which I think he can IF we run an actual offense that makes decisions easier on him. He shot free throws close to 90% last year which would suggest his 3P% will improve, as long as he doesn’t force shots. Obviously Aminu at the 2, Carey at the 3, and then probably Rice at the 4 and Ryan at the 5. Incredibly young lineup that will struggle early but hopefully return next year ready to improve. You don't even have Riley in there. Probably should wait to assess till some of the games in Nov-Dec. I wouldn’t expect Riley to start, but of course we’ll have a much better idea by December what our lineup in the Big East will be. Guys like Riley and Billingsley are decent recruits that you’d want to probably come off the bench freshmen and most of sophomore year before taking over big roles on the team as upperclassmen. It’s unfortunate that they will need to play so many minutes as freshmen but hopefully their struggles this year aren’t damaging in the long run. Given how this program has operated they’ll probably all be gone by the time they’re juniors anyway but assuming they stay I would love to just see consistent improvement.
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