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Post by gojeffgoroyunder7 on Apr 27, 2020 18:38:45 GMT -5
This is an idiotic discussion. A grad transfer who plays a position we need and apparently had more than decent stats as a junior just announced his transfer to Georgetown. Yet we are arguing over why he decided not to play at Bradley two years ago. Maybe we welcome Chudier to the Hilltop and wait to see what he can contribute on the court? Completely agree, but people like "TC" and his followers can't help but share their own misery -- in each and every thread. Nothing better to do, I guess. Welcome, CB. The vast majority of us are rooting like crazy for you.
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Post by s4hoyas on Apr 27, 2020 18:48:34 GMT -5
Welcome aboard, Chudier!...15/8 with 39% from 3 are very nice #s in conference play...turnovers result from being very active but need to be cut down...he has a very versatile game, both inside attacking the basket and outside with good perimeter stroke and range...excellent overall quickness and appears to have good defensive ability to go along with his rebounding...very valuable addition as a grad transfer at this point...
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 27, 2020 19:17:17 GMT -5
Don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but there was an article in SI last week about the proliferation of African players being brought here to play high school and/or college ball - many of them being badly misled by middlemen who get paid to pump up the dreams of these young people, then when many of them get here they can be abandoned or shuffled around to different programs, oftening ending up bouncing from one to another with no one really looking out for their interests.
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Post by tupac on Apr 27, 2020 19:30:59 GMT -5
Welcome
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Apr 27, 2020 19:37:18 GMT -5
Welcome to D.C., Chudz. I wish you the best.
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Post by RBHoya on Apr 27, 2020 19:41:26 GMT -5
Don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but there was an article in SI last week about the proliferation of African players being brought here to play high school and/or college ball - many of them being badly misled by middlemen who get paid to pump up the dreams of these young people, then when many of them get here they can be abandoned or shuffled around to different programs, oftening ending up bouncing from one to another with no one really looking out for their interests. Is he from Africa? His ESPN bio says he was born in Denver and there's no hint of an accent in his interviews.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 27, 2020 19:49:42 GMT -5
I thought someone suggested he was from Sudan. I may have misinterpreted that.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Apr 27, 2020 20:34:58 GMT -5
I thought someone suggested he was from Sudan. I may have misinterpreted that. His bio at his prior school says that he’s from Sudan.
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 27, 2020 20:39:40 GMT -5
He's definitely filling the scholarship that Galen vacated, but he looks a little longer and more athletic than Galen based on the very small sample I've seen. The turnovers are concerning, to be sure, but that's a flaw that's a little easier to mitigate than others. You can't teach a kid who is 6'2 to be 6'7. You can't turn a below-the-rim player into a run/jump athlete. In the course of one off-season you probably can't take a kid who is a poor shooter and get him up to 38% from 3 point range. But making sloppy passes and turning the ball over? That's something that's fixed by coaching and better understanding and effort from the player, which seems a little more likely. It's hard to see the problem totally going away given that the players he'll be against now will be a lot better, but he's also going to be in a totally different role with a totally different supporting cast. I don't think it's inconceivable that he cuts it down to a "not great but tolerable" amount. I'd rather have a kid who is big, athletic and can shoot but who needs coaching to improve some correctable flaws in his game than to have a kid who is steady with the ball but has a low ceiling because of physical limitations and/or can't put the ball in the hole. At this stage of the game it's a pretty good pickup. It's not perfect and we can focus on what he's not good at, but I'd rather focus on the good things he brings to the table. I also really like the fact that of our top 6 players, we'll most likely have 4 seniors and a juniors in that mix. They haven't all played a ton together, and who knows how much practice they'll get with COVID-19, but I feel good about having a more veteran core--last year's team showed the value of that. We'll rely on the freshmen for depth at the back end of the rotation, but we'll mostly be playing guys who have been around the block. And we'll go into 2021 with at least 4 open scholarships. Hopefully we'll have some better luck with our top targets then. Finally, I find the timing interesting in that Walton committed elsewhere and Bile committed a few hours later. It's possible that it's a coincidence, but it's also possible that the staff was waiting on Walton to announce before giving Bile the green light. Which makes me wonder, since we ostensibly have 2 scholarships open, why would we need to do that? With 2 open 'ships Walton and Bile both could have come. Unless... they are holding that last one for something else, or have something else in mind. Jaden House? Frankie Collins? Omer Yurtseven? Not sure, but the way this played out makes me think there may be one last roster move to come. I'd much rather see the sophomores & freshman play next season as opposed to stopgap kids, let J.Harris & Bile be the back-end guys... If Beard & D. Harris are anywhere near J. Harris then I think the staff should go with them. I feel the same when it comes to Clark/Sibley & Bile...
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 27, 2020 20:42:27 GMT -5
He's definitely filling the scholarship that Galen vacated, but he looks a little longer and more athletic than Galen based on the very small sample I've seen. The turnovers are concerning, to be sure, but that's a flaw that's a little easier to mitigate than others. You can't teach a kid who is 6'2 to be 6'7. You can't turn a below-the-rim player into a run/jump athlete. In the course of one off-season you probably can't take a kid who is a poor shooter and get him up to 38% from 3 point range. But making sloppy passes and turning the ball over? That's something that's fixed by coaching and better understanding and effort from the player, which seems a little more likely. It's hard to see the problem totally going away given that the players he'll be against now will be a lot better, but he's also going to be in a totally different role with a totally different supporting cast. I don't think it's inconceivable that he cuts it down to a "not great but tolerable" amount. I'd rather have a kid who is big, athletic and can shoot but who needs coaching to improve some correctable flaws in his game than to have a kid who is steady with the ball but has a low ceiling because of physical limitations and/or can't put the ball in the hole. At this stage of the game it's a pretty good pickup. It's not perfect and we can focus on what he's not good at, but I'd rather focus on the good things he brings to the table. I also really like the fact that of our top 6 players, we'll most likely have 4 seniors and a juniors in that mix. They haven't all played a ton together, and who knows how much practice they'll get with COVID-19, but I feel good about having a more veteran core--last year's team showed the value of that. We'll rely on the freshmen for depth at the back end of the rotation, but we'll mostly be playing guys who have been around the block. And we'll go into 2021 with at least 4 open scholarships. Hopefully we'll have some better luck with our top targets then. Finally, I find the timing interesting in that Walton committed elsewhere and Bile committed a few hours later. It's possible that it's a coincidence, but it's also possible that the staff was waiting on Walton to announce before giving Bile the green light. Which makes me wonder, since we ostensibly have 2 scholarships open, why would we need to do that? With 2 open 'ships Walton and Bile both could have come. Unless... they are holding that last one for something else, or have something else in mind. Jaden House? Frankie Collins? Omer Yurtseven? Not sure, but the way this played out makes me think there may be one last roster move to come. We have an athletic long wing in Bile. Fills the one weakness we had last year which was lack of a tall wing who could guard and matchup physically against other team's tall wings. If he's defensively great everything else is a bonus since I expect Coach to play alot of 3 small guard lineups that we had success with last year.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 27, 2020 20:48:23 GMT -5
Don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but there was an article in SI last week about the proliferation of African players being brought here to play high school and/or college ball - many of them being badly misled by middlemen who get paid to pump up the dreams of these young people, then when many of them get here they can be abandoned or shuffled around to different programs, oftening ending up bouncing from one to another with no one really looking out for their interests. Is he from Africa? His ESPN bio says he was born in Denver and there's no hint of an accent in his interviews. Otero CC is in Denver. "Bile averaged 12.4 points, 5.9 rebounds and 1.2 blocks for a team that finished 29-5 and reached the NJCAA Division I national tournament. A native of South Sudan, he played high school ball at Denver South." www.pjstar.com/sports/20180709/bradley-newcomer-chudier-bile-leaves-before-he-startsHe's African.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 27, 2020 20:49:50 GMT -5
Don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but there was an article in SI last week about the proliferation of African players being brought here to play high school and/or college ball - many of them being badly misled by middlemen who get paid to pump up the dreams of these young people, then when many of them get here they can be abandoned or shuffled around to different programs, oftening ending up bouncing from one to another with no one really looking out for their interests. I'd rather have a hungry immigrant from Africa rather than a spoiled, disrespectful AAU American like Akinoshow.
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Post by bornhoya on Apr 27, 2020 21:11:37 GMT -5
Don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but there was an article in SI last week about the proliferation of African players being brought here to play high school and/or college ball - many of them being badly misled by middlemen who get paid to pump up the dreams of these young people, then when many of them get here they can be abandoned or shuffled around to different programs, oftening ending up bouncing from one to another with no one really looking out for their interests. I'd rather have a hungry immigrant from Africa rather than a spoiled, disrespectful AAU American like Akinoshow. And that was necessary
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Post by TC on Apr 27, 2020 21:13:47 GMT -5
Is he from Africa? His ESPN bio says he was born in Denver and there's no hint of an accent in his interviews. Otero CC is in Denver. "Bile averaged 12.4 points, 5.9 rebounds and 1.2 blocks for a team that finished 29-5 and reached the NJCAA Division I national tournament. A native of South Sudan, he played high school ball at Denver South." www.pjstar.com/sports/20180709/bradley-newcomer-chudier-bile-leaves-before-he-startsHe's African.
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Post by wolveribe on Apr 27, 2020 21:27:12 GMT -5
You're also ignoring the next sentence that says that playing time was a factor. So you seriously think playing time was a factor in his decision *one practice into the summer*? I'm the most cynical person on the board, so I'm not real hopeful here, especially when I see something like this : www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/fvzrt1/201920_allliability_team/Bile had that many fouls and turnovers in 24 minutes per game. On a per minute basis (Agee played 32 minutes per game, Clark played 36, Brown 29.5, I think he's #1 on that list. FWIW, his turnover rate was equal to Moselys and Alexanders, which was slightly higher than Allens. His total number of turnovers was high because of an absurd usage. Granted, turnovers is a huge concern from him. But, the dude can also shoot and rebound and is a willing defender. There are a lot of things he does well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 21:37:48 GMT -5
He won't be asked to do nearly as much on our roster. His turnovers should be drastically reduced.
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Post by richfame on Apr 27, 2020 21:38:53 GMT -5
Eligible immediately I presume? Guy will be on his fourth college if you count Juco. Good luck Chudier! He must be pushing 30 ha.
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Post by madhoya on Apr 27, 2020 21:47:11 GMT -5
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Post by madhoya on Apr 27, 2020 21:56:25 GMT -5
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Post by mdtd on Apr 27, 2020 21:56:58 GMT -5
Don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but there was an article in SI last week about the proliferation of African players being brought here to play high school and/or college ball - many of them being badly misled by middlemen who get paid to pump up the dreams of these young people, then when many of them get here they can be abandoned or shuffled around to different programs, oftening ending up bouncing from one to another with no one really looking out for their interests. I'd rather have a hungry immigrant from Africa rather than a spoiled, disrespectful AAU American like Akinoshow. Can you stop with your continuous bashing Akinjo shtick? It makes every discussion look just much more hateful and disrespectful. The kid transferred and made mistakes. He had a more rough upbringing and was living across the country away from all of his family until his best friend transferred and he decided to go closer to home. Have some respect for the kid who played, man. This shtick is embarrassing. There's no reason to continue hating on the kid.
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