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Post by DFW HOYA on Apr 27, 2020 17:29:26 GMT -5
You're also ignoring the next sentence that says that playing time was a factor. But I agree that first sentence is super odd. But it's also coming from someone close to the Bradley basketball program, so there might have been some bias in the unattributed comment. How would someone know his playing time after one summer session? A source close to the men’s basketball program said Bile’s decision to leave was based on the demands of the program being beyond his expectations. I can't tell if that was a really weak excuse or that he isn't prepared for program that expects its students to behave like adults. Georgetown is not Natchitoches, and if he hasn't visited (which he may not have), the demands of this program are going to be considerably more than Northwestern State or Bradley, for that matter.
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Post by TC on Apr 27, 2020 17:33:52 GMT -5
I can't tell if that was a really weak excuse or that he isn't prepared for a strict head coach. Either way, Georgetown is not Natchitoches, and if he hasn't visited (which he may not have), the demands of the program are considerably more than Northwestern State...or Bradley, for that matter. You're also ignoring the next sentence that says that playing time was a factor. So you seriously think playing time was a factor in his decision *one practice into the summer*? I'm the most cynical person on the board, so I'm not real hopeful here, especially when I see something like this : www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/fvzrt1/201920_allliability_team/Bile had that many fouls and turnovers in 24 minutes per game. On a per minute basis (Agee played 32 minutes per game, Clark played 36, Brown 29.5, I think he's #1 on that list.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Apr 27, 2020 17:35:41 GMT -5
You're also ignoring the next sentence that says that playing time was a factor. But I agree that first sentence is super odd. But it's also coming from someone close to the Bradley basketball program, so there might have been some bias in the unattributed comment. How would someone know his playing time after one summer session? A source close to the men’s basketball program said Bile’s decision to leave was based on the demands of the program being beyond his expectations. I can't tell if that was a really weak excuse or that he isn't prepared for program that expects its students to behave like adults. Georgetown is not Natchitoches, and if he hasn't visited (which he may not have), the demands of this program are going to be considerably more than Northwestern State or Bradley, for that matter. Maybe there was a broken promise in terms of starting position, role, or minutes between when he was being recruited and when he arrived on campus? I really don't know. I'm just providing the only quotes I can find on the subject.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 27, 2020 17:36:40 GMT -5
I wonder what graduate degree he will be pursuing?
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Post by daveg023 on Apr 27, 2020 17:37:39 GMT -5
This is a useful part and doesn’t lock a scholarship up beyond this year. As someone said not moving the needle, but it probably helps elevate our floor, for the needed depth at F if nothing else.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Apr 27, 2020 17:45:11 GMT -5
I don't "think" anything since I have no inside knowledge. All I did was send you an article that provided you with an answer to your question/comment. Then DFW was selective in his quote of that article, which I wanted to address, and he then deleted his original post and created a new one.
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 27, 2020 17:52:27 GMT -5
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Post by SDHoya on Apr 27, 2020 17:52:29 GMT -5
This is an idiotic discussion. A grad transfer who plays a position we need and apparently had more than decent stats as a junior just announced his transfer to Georgetown. Yet we are arguing over why he decided not to play at Bradley two years ago.
Maybe we welcome Chudier to the Hilltop and wait to see what he can contribute on the court?
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Post by DFW HOYA on Apr 27, 2020 17:56:22 GMT -5
I don't "think" anything since I have no inside knowledge. All I did was send you an article that provided you with an answer to your question/comment. Then DFW was selective in his quote of that article, which I wanted to address, and he then deleted his original post and created a new one. I missed the quote, and combined the earlier post with another one - not deleted. My problem is not with Bile but an ongoing reliance on short term fixes for this program. Is there no one in the WCAC or BCL or Interhigh ranks that Ewing could build a four year relationship with, instead of going to page 2 of Robert Kirby's shortlist of well-traveled jucos? To borrow a line from the NFL, was this the best player left on the board?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 17:58:05 GMT -5
This is an idiotic discussion. A grad transfer who plays a position we need and apparently had more than decent stats as a junior just announced his transfer to Georgetown. Yet we are arguing over why he decided not to play at Bradley two years ago. Maybe we welcome Chudier to the Hilltop and wait to see what he can contribute on the court? This site has become pretty toxic, there are a few who bring their real life insecurities and frustrations (not basketball related) to this board the second we lose a recruiting battle or game. I agree with the above posters who thought of Alexander-that was the first comp that came to mind. Certainly helps fill a void at the 3/4 for next season. I would think some of the turnovers were trying to do too much on offense-hopefully cleans that up and the focus is on rebounds and hitting open shots
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Post by LCPolo18 on Apr 27, 2020 18:01:47 GMT -5
I don't "think" anything since I have no inside knowledge. All I did was send you an article that provided you with an answer to your question/comment. Then DFW was selective in his quote of that article, which I wanted to address, and he then deleted his original post and created a new one. I missed the quote, and combined the earlier post with another one - not deleted. My problem is not with Bile but an ongoing reliance on short term fixes for this program. Is there no one in the WCAC or BCL or Interhigh ranks that Ewing could build a four year relationship with, instead of going to page 2 of Robert Kirby's shortlist of well-traveled jucos? To borrow a line from the NFL, was this the best player left on the board? Sorry, I assumed it was deleted since your post now shows up after my response to your original post. I guess my question is, who is the WCAC recruiter for the Hoyas and what recruits from his page 2 would pick the Hoyas?
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Post by 757hoya on Apr 27, 2020 18:05:51 GMT -5
Looks like a more polished Alexander. Good rebounder for his size and has some bounce it seems. Me likes...
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 27, 2020 18:15:38 GMT -5
Based off what I've read and seen, he reminds me of Galen on the court Funny...I thought the same thing. More polished version of Galen. Seems better off the dribble than Galen. We can use this kid. Hmm the tape is dated but I got the sense that he was less polished.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 27, 2020 18:16:06 GMT -5
That looks like a pretty fun program. I wish I was 20 yrs younger.
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 27, 2020 18:16:25 GMT -5
You're also ignoring the next sentence that says that playing time was a factor. But I agree that first sentence is super odd. But it's also coming from someone close to the Bradley basketball program, so there might have been some bias in the unattributed comment. How would someone know his playing time after one summer session? A source close to the men’s basketball program said Bile’s decision to leave was based on the demands of the program being beyond his expectations. I can't tell if that was a really weak excuse or that he isn't prepared for program that expects its students to behave like adults. Georgetown is not Natchitoches, and if he hasn't visited (which he may not have), the demands of this program are going to be considerably more than Northwestern State or Bradley, for that matter. Ummm...you talk to your coaches?
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Post by RBHoya on Apr 27, 2020 18:17:41 GMT -5
He's definitely filling the scholarship that Galen vacated, but he looks a little longer and more athletic than Galen based on the very small sample I've seen.
The turnovers are concerning, to be sure, but that's a flaw that's a little easier to mitigate than others. You can't teach a kid who is 6'2 to be 6'7. You can't turn a below-the-rim player into a run/jump athlete. In the course of one off-season you probably can't take a kid who is a poor shooter and get him up to 38% from 3 point range. But making sloppy passes and turning the ball over? That's something that's fixed by coaching and better understanding and effort from the player, which seems a little more likely. It's hard to see the problem totally going away given that the players he'll be against now will be a lot better, but he's also going to be in a totally different role with a totally different supporting cast. I don't think it's inconceivable that he cuts it down to a "not great but tolerable" amount. I'd rather have a kid who is big, athletic and can shoot but who needs coaching to improve some correctable flaws in his game than to have a kid who is steady with the ball but has a low ceiling because of physical limitations and/or can't put the ball in the hole. At this stage of the game it's a pretty good pickup. It's not perfect and we can focus on what he's not good at, but I'd rather focus on the good things he brings to the table.
I also really like the fact that of our top 6 players, we'll most likely have 4 seniors and a juniors in that mix. They haven't all played a ton together, and who knows how much practice they'll get with COVID-19, but I feel good about having a more veteran core--last year's team showed the value of that. We'll rely on the freshmen for depth at the back end of the rotation, but we'll mostly be playing guys who have been around the block. And we'll go into 2021 with at least 4 open scholarships. Hopefully we'll have some better luck with our top targets then.
Finally, I find the timing interesting in that Walton committed elsewhere and Bile committed a few hours later. It's possible that it's a coincidence, but it's also possible that the staff was waiting on Walton to announce before giving Bile the green light. Which makes me wonder, since we ostensibly have 2 scholarships open, why would we need to do that? With 2 open 'ships Walton and Bile both could have come. Unless... they are holding that last one for something else, or have something else in mind. Jaden House? Frankie Collins? Omer Yurtseven? Not sure, but the way this played out makes me think there may be one last roster move to come.
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Post by hoyas315 on Apr 27, 2020 18:27:03 GMT -5
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Post by prhoya on Apr 27, 2020 18:27:43 GMT -5
Congrats to Chudier, his family and the staff!
Do your homework during lockdown like your new teammate Beard!
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 27, 2020 18:32:28 GMT -5
That looks like a pretty fun program. I wish I was 20 yrs younger. Same Masters program that Rodney Pryor enrolled in.
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Post by prhoya on Apr 27, 2020 18:35:26 GMT -5
You're also ignoring the next sentence that says that playing time was a factor. So you seriously think playing time was a factor in his decision *one practice into the summer*? I'm the most cynical person on the board, so I'm not real hopeful here, especially when I see something like this : www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/fvzrt1/201920_allliability_team/Bile had that many fouls and turnovers in 24 minutes per game. On a per minute basis (Agee played 32 minutes per game, Clark played 36, Brown 29.5, I think he's #1 on that list. Maybe Bile penetrating is not the best idea vs. BE teams.
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