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Post by njhoyalawya on Jun 5, 2020 19:57:22 GMT -5
A lot goes into negotiations. It was reported that they took this deal now, to avoid impact on future recruitment. There was perhaps an agreement to give them a "clean slate" in light of some more current "rumors." I am sure the "whole picture" was looked at before any agreement of punishment was reached. There is no way OSU agreed to this punishment with Cade on the way. They have come out swinging how overzealous this punishment was. The NCAA has now painted themselves into a corner. OSU was implicated along side the other schools that did the same thing. This is not a one off situation. If this is what they do for an assistant getting money to help players already in school I would think the stuff involving potential recruits would be worse. I will believe it all when I actually see it because the NCAA hardly ever does the right thing. Maybe what I read was misinformation. It had said that they accepted this punishment to avoid problems with future recruiting if it dragged on.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 5, 2020 21:10:46 GMT -5
The schools who have been caught - and who know they have been caught - do a risk analysis. They calculate, with the assistance of experts with experience with NCAA investigations and punishments, what the potential punishment would be. They then "self-impose" punishments that are maybe 2/3 or 3/4 of that potential, hoping the NCAA will feel that is significant enough for both sides to live with, or even if not, that the NCAA will impose 80% or 85% at that point so that both sides end up giving a little.
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Post by mdtd on Jun 5, 2020 21:48:15 GMT -5
A lot goes into negotiations. It was reported that they took this deal now, to avoid impact on future recruitment. There was perhaps an agreement to give them a "clean slate" in light of some more current "rumors." I am sure the "whole picture" was looked at before any agreement of punishment was reached. There is no way OSU agreed to this punishment with Cade on the way. They have come out swinging how overzealous this punishment was. The NCAA has now painted themselves into a corner. OSU was implicated along side the other schools that did the same thing. This is not a one off situation. If this is what they do for an assistant getting money to help players already in school I would think the stuff involving potential recruits would be worse. I will believe it all when I actually see it because the NCAA hardly ever does the right thing. I generally agree with everything here, especially that last part. The only thing I'd add is Carroll, who received I think 3K (while already on the team not in recruitment), was actually suspended for three games during the season when he received money. And the rest of what Evans did was to the detriment of the players. It doesn't seem very fair to Oklahoma State. Especially since I don't think LSU, Arizona or Kansas get nearly the same punishment, for doing much worse, not the same thing imo.
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