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Post by the_way on Dec 19, 2018 17:41:13 GMT -5
No, they are doing just fine.
Again, we are talking about one player who is struggling. Everyone else seems to have found their roles within the team. Including LeBlanc who gets his points by just being scrappy. Imagine if Pickett had LeBlanc's high motor and energy.
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Post by HOYAPLAYA on Dec 19, 2018 19:16:38 GMT -5
No, they are doing just fine. Again, we are talking about one player who is struggling. Everyone else seems to have found their roles within the team. Including LeBlanc who gets his points by just being scrappy. Imagine if Pickett had LeBlanc's high motor and energy. Imagine if Leblanc had Pickett's shooting ability. Neither one would be here next year if they took each others strengths so I'll decide to not ignore one player's weakness while consistently pointing out others. |
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Post by the_way on Dec 19, 2018 19:27:05 GMT -5
No, they are doing just fine. Again, we are talking about one player who is struggling. Everyone else seems to have found their roles within the team. Including LeBlanc who gets his points by just being scrappy. Imagine if Pickett had LeBlanc's high motor and energy. Imagine if Leblanc had Pickett's shooting ability. Neither one would be here next year if they took each others strengths so I'll decide to not ignore one player's weakness while consistently pointing out others. LeBlanc is still effective without 3-pt shooting ability. He found his way through other means to contribute which are just important to the team concept. If Pickett is not the focal point of the offense, he can find other ways to contribute besides just 3's. Creating his own shot and ballhandling are things he has to improve. But there are other ways he can still contribute. With his height and length, maybe its defense, on the glass, etc. |
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 19, 2018 19:29:02 GMT -5
No, they are doing just fine. Again, we are talking about one player who is struggling. Everyone else seems to have found their roles within the team. Including LeBlanc who gets his points by just being scrappy. Imagine if Pickett had LeBlanc's high motor and energy. Makes zero sense to me that you think a freshman in college doesn't have to make adjustments to playing with better players... |
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Post by HOYAPLAYA on Dec 19, 2018 19:36:56 GMT -5
Imagine if Leblanc had Pickett's shooting ability. Neither one would be here next year if they took each others strengths so I'll decide to not ignore one player's weakness while consistently pointing out others. LeBlanc is still effective without 3-pt shooting ability. He found his way through other means to contribute which are just important to the team concept. If Pickett is not the focal point of the offense, he can find other ways to contribute besides just 3's. Creating his own shot and ballhandling are things he has to improve. But there are other ways he can still contribute. With his height and length, maybe its defense, on the glass, etc. Pickett actually is contributing on the boards and on defense so all I'm saying is that the team isn't benefiting by his shots going elsewhere. I don't care that Pickett is happy but I do care about wins. I've said it before and I'll say it again here...this current situation isn't going to deliver winning basketball in the Big East. Ask yourself why you don't ask McClung the same thing you asked about Pickett above. Right now, he does nothing in the stat sheet but score. No rebounding, terrible assist numbers for a guard getting the minutes he gets and not very good at defense. I'll take that because I see potential but I also want him to give the ball up more so the team has the benefit of a better shot from a better shooter in Pickett from behind the 3 pt line. |
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Post by the_way on Dec 19, 2018 19:39:02 GMT -5
Who are the players better than Mackinjo?
Govan.
And Govan is doing just fine, offensively.
LeBlanc. He is not the focal point offensively,but he has his role as a high-energy,glue-guy. Still scores.
Pickett is playing with a different roster this year. A young, but much-more talented backcourt who can create and are threats to opposing defenses. That wasn't the case last year. Pickett is trying to adjust now.
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Post by the_way on Dec 19, 2018 19:40:16 GMT -5
LeBlanc is still effective without 3-pt shooting ability. He found his way through other means to contribute which are just important to the team concept. If Pickett is not the focal point of the offense, he can find other ways to contribute besides just 3's. Creating his own shot and ballhandling are things he has to improve. But there are other ways he can still contribute. With his height and length, maybe its defense, on the glass, etc. Pickett actually is contributing on the boards and on defense so all I'm saying is that the team isn't benefiting by his shots going elsewhere. I don't care that Pickett is happy but I do care about wins. I've said it before and I'll say it again here...this current situation isn't going to deliver winning basketball in the Big East. Ask yourself why you don't ask McClung the same thing you asked about Pickett above. Right now, he does nothing in the stat sheet but score. No rebounding, terrible assist numbers for a guard getting the minutes he gets and not very good at defense. I'll take that because I see potential but I also want him to give the ball up more so the team has the benefit of a better shot from a better shooter in Pickett from behind the 3 pt line. Scoring isn't our problem though. It is defense. |
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Post by HOYAPLAYA on Dec 19, 2018 19:46:03 GMT -5
Pickett actually is contributing on the boards and on defense so all I'm saying is that the team isn't benefiting by his shots going elsewhere. I don't care that Pickett is happy but I do care about wins. I've said it before and I'll say it again here...this current situation isn't going to deliver winning basketball in the Big East. Ask yourself why you don't ask McClung the same thing you asked about Pickett above. Right now, he does nothing in the stat sheet but score. No rebounding, terrible assist numbers for a guard getting the minutes he gets and not very good at defense. I'll take that because I see potential but I also want him to give the ball up more so the team has the benefit of a better shot from a better shooter in Pickett from behind the 3 pt line. Scoring isn't our problem though. It is defense. Our offense is a problem because we still turn it over too much and still take more ill advised shots that lead to transition baskets. We aren't going to be good on defense, let's face that fact. Ther are potential solutions to improve but they will impact the offense. We have an opportunity to be a better offensive team but it just seems some of you would just rather see how many points the guards can score. |
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Post by the_way on Dec 19, 2018 20:11:56 GMT -5
Scoring isn't our problem though. It is defense. Our offense is a problem because we still turn it over too much and still take more ill advised shots that lead to transition baskets. We aren't going to be good on defense, let's face that fact. Ther are potential solutions to improve but they will impact the offense. We have an opportunity to be a better offensive team but it just seems some of you would just rather see how many points the guards can score. Some would just rather see how many the SFs can score.  Coach Ewing: Your team can put up points, but your defense needs a lot of work. Here is the solution: Change everything just so your #6 scorer can get more shots. |
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Post by HOYAPLAYA on Dec 19, 2018 20:17:23 GMT -5
Our offense is a problem because we still turn it over too much and still take more ill advised shots that lead to transition baskets. We aren't going to be good on defense, let's face that fact. Ther are potential solutions to improve but they will impact the offense. We have an opportunity to be a better offensive team but it just seems some of you would just rather see how many points the guards can score. Some would just rather see how many the SFs can score. Coach Ewing: Your team can put up points, but your defense needs a lot of work. Here is the solution: Change everything just so your #6 scorer can get more shots. Or try this one... Coach Ewing: Right now, it looks like your team has more talent than last year's squad but it doesn't appear the performance is going to be any better because the sume of the parts isn't equaling the whole. |
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Post by the_way on Dec 19, 2018 20:32:02 GMT -5
Some would just rather see how many the SFs can score. Coach Ewing: Your team can put up points, but your defense needs a lot of work. Here is the solution: Change everything just so your #6 scorer can get more shots. Or try this one... Coach Ewing: Right now, it looks like your team has more talent than last year's squad but it doesn't appear the performance is going to be any better because the sume of the parts isn't equaling the whole. Actually, the sum of the parts equal the whole. The backcourt is better, but the team overall? Saying our backcourt is better isn't saying much, because of the situation we had last year. Not too difficult to be better. Not a slight on Mackinjo. Marcus was a big loss. We have yet to replace him. He was our finisher. Our closer. We could have used him on that last possession vs Syracuse. We don't have a finisher or closer on this team. No go-to-guy. Govan is the closest. Mackinjo isn't there. Mosely still tries but is limited. Pickett needs shots created for him. Same for Malinowski. Blair is confident, but erratic and limited. LeBlanc has shot one 3 all year, and is the 4th leading scorer on the team. With all of that, we still put up points. Offense ain't the problem. We need more LeBlanc's, not more 3's. |
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Post by HOYAPLAYA on Dec 19, 2018 21:02:21 GMT -5
Or try this one... Coach Ewing: Right now, it looks like your team has more talent than last year's squad but it doesn't appear the performance is going to be any better because the sume of the parts isn't equaling the whole. Actually, the sum of the parts equal the whole. The backcourt is better, but the team overall? Saying our backcourt is better isn't saying much, because of the situation we had last year. Not too difficult to be better. Not a slight on Mackinjo. Marcus was a big loss. We have yet to replace him. He was our finisher. Our closer. We could have used him on that last possession vs Syracuse. We don't have a finisher or closer on this team. No go-to-guy. Govan is the closest. Mackinjo isn't there. Mosely still tries but is limited. Pickett needs shots created for him. Same for Malinowski. Blair is confident, but erratic and limited. LeBlanc has shot one 3 all year, and is the 4th leading scorer on the team. With all of that, we still put up points. Offense ain't the problem. We need more LeBlanc's, not more 3's. We aren't going to agree on this one and I'm not angling for more 3's. I want more shots from our more efficient offensive players to ensure we make up for our defensive deficiencies. I also would like 3-4 more shots for Govan per game and less shots by Mourning. |
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Post by the_way on Dec 19, 2018 21:08:02 GMT -5
Actually, the sum of the parts equal the whole. The backcourt is better, but the team overall? Saying our backcourt is better isn't saying much, because of the situation we had last year. Not too difficult to be better. Not a slight on Mackinjo. Marcus was a big loss. We have yet to replace him. He was our finisher. Our closer. We could have used him on that last possession vs Syracuse. We don't have a finisher or closer on this team. No go-to-guy. Govan is the closest. Mackinjo isn't there. Mosely still tries but is limited. Pickett needs shots created for him. Same for Malinowski. Blair is confident, but erratic and limited. LeBlanc has shot one 3 all year, and is the 4th leading scorer on the team. With all of that, we still put up points. Offense ain't the problem. We need more LeBlanc's, not more 3's. We aren't going to agree on this one and I'm not angling for more 3's. I want more shots from our more efficient offensive players to ensure we make up for our defensive deficiencies. I also would like 3-4 more shots for Govan per game and less shots by Mourning. If anything, we both can agree this team has some limitations, and it is going to be a challenge when the Big East schedule starts. We are what we are. |
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Post by HOYAPLAYA on Dec 19, 2018 21:17:32 GMT -5
We aren't going to agree on this one and I'm not angling for more 3's. I want more shots from our more efficient offensive players to ensure we make up for our defensive deficiencies. I also would like 3-4 more shots for Govan per game and less shots by Mourning. If anything, we both can agree this team has some limitations, and it is going to be a challenge when the Big East schedule starts. We are what we are. Agreed |
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Post by gujake on Dec 20, 2018 0:47:36 GMT -5
With all of that, we still put up points. Offense ain't the problem. We're ranked 99th in adjusted offense. People are getting fooled by the point totals because we play at a fast pace, but the offense has been about as bad as the defense. |
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Post by smokeyjack on Dec 20, 2018 7:41:02 GMT -5
With all of that, we still put up points. Offense ain't the problem. We're ranked 99th in adjusted offense. People are getting fooled by the point totals because we play at a fast pace, but the offense has been about as bad as the defense. I haven’t been happy with this team’s overall progress, but I’m going to disagree with you here and side strongly with Way. Our offensive efficiency still isn’t good primarily because of the incredibly sloppy start to the season from the young guards. I think we can all agree that is improving by leaps and bounds. Akinjo still dribbles too much, but aside from one back-to-back possession stretch around the 7:00 mark in the second half against App St, he was really excellent on Tue. And he’s been trending in that direction. He’s 2x more efficient than he was earlier in the season. And Mac has made an even bigger jump in efficiency. He’s getting to the rim and foul line frequently now. He’s not jacking nearly as many deep early triples. And he’s making a higher percentage of the ones he does take relative to early in the season. Both freshman guards are greatly improved in just the tiny 11-game sample. Mourning has regressed to who he is of late, and Govan has sleepwalked through the Dec schedule which has masked the huge jump the backcourt has made. I contend that after the guards adjust to BE play, Govan turns it up and LeBlanc eats most of Trey’s minutes, this will be a pretty decent off team (40-50 range on efficiency). I expect JP, JB and Greg to take turns being the solid “other” scorer, and I don’t think offensive efficiency is going to be the issue as we move into the meat of the schedule. Def efficiency, on the other hand, is a total disaster. Right now Josh is our lone plus defender, and Govan and Trey are just downright horrific on that end which absolutely isn’t changing. That’s the end of the court where we are likely to just get absolutely slaughtered by BE opponents, because we can’t defend arc or PnR with any consistency, and young guards are still getting lost in motion/cut/screen patterns. Going to really take our lumps this season. Put me down as someone who actually believes we’ll be way better next year with more mature backcourt and smaller, more athletic, less skilled (other than Yurt) frontcourt. |
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Post by gujake on Dec 20, 2018 15:14:17 GMT -5
smokey - I wasn't expressing an opinion about the rest of the season. Just stating a fact: the offense has been as bad as the defense so far.
It might look better visually. A fast pace and dynamic guards are fun to watch. But it's not adding up to anything yet.
We're a lot more talented on that side of the ball so yeah, I'm hopeful for improvement on offense. But as of right now, it IS a problem.
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