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Post by HOYAPLAYA on Dec 19, 2018 14:51:40 GMT -5
Pickett and Malinowski would have more three attempts if the could create on their own. Akinjo and McClung can create open looks for themselves all day long- they just have to shoot at a better clip, especially Mac. I don’t think you want your center leading the team in three point attempts. If he shoots 50%, I am totally fine with my center leading the team in three point attempts. Also, the creating 3 pt shot excuse is nonsense. They aren't breaking down their man and pulling up for 3's. They are just letting it fly every time they have a bit of space and that isn't the best shot for the offense in a lot of the cases. Pickett and Malinowski could take these same shots but are choosing not to and move the ball to a teammate for better shot. This is clear to anyone who is watching the game. I'm still hopeful that we will see some slight improvement in this aspect this year but we are running out of time before Big East season starts. I still think there is enough talent for this team to make some noise in conference play but we are also about to consistently see that Govan is the only starter we have that would start on every other Big East team. Right now, Akinjo is likely the only other one that would on more than half of the other Big East teams. The advantage that I think we have is we have more pieces that collectively could have us outperform but that won't happen unless we improve how we play as a team.
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Post by HOYAPLAYA on Dec 19, 2018 14:53:09 GMT -5
Pickett and Malinowski would have more three attempts if the could create on their own. Akinjo and McClung can create open looks for themselves all day long- they just have to shoot at a better clip, especially Mac. I don’t think you want your center leading the team in three point attempts. This. And right now, Akinjo and McClung are the better talents too. With Govan on the team, anyone else is a 4th option at best. For someone like Malinowski it's no big deal, because people expect him to be that role-playing, 3-pt specialist. For Pickett, the expectation is much different. Blair in less minutes, has almost as many FG attempts as Pickett, and more 3pt attempts than Pickett. Are more plays being called for Blair than Pickett? Or is it something else? Blair plays more minutes without both Akinjo and Mac on the floor. There are more shots made available in the lineups that he is part of.
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Post by the_way on Dec 19, 2018 15:08:03 GMT -5
This. And right now, Akinjo and McClung are the better talents too. With Govan on the team, anyone else is a 4th option at best. For someone like Malinowski it's no big deal, because people expect him to be that role-playing, 3-pt specialist. For Pickett, the expectation is much different. Blair in less minutes, has almost as many FG attempts as Pickett, and more 3pt attempts than Pickett. Are more plays being called for Blair than Pickett? Or is it something else? Blair plays more minutes without both Akinjo and Mac on the floor. There are more shots made available in the lineups that he is part of. How are more shots made available for Blair and not Pickett?
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Post by HOYAPLAYA on Dec 19, 2018 15:13:04 GMT -5
Blair plays more minutes without both Akinjo and Mac on the floor. There are more shots made available in the lineups that he is part of. How are more shots made available for Blair and not Pickett? Blair plays more with Mosely and/or one of the two freshman guards. That combination that he plays with shoots the ball a lot less than the combination of Akinjo and McClung.
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Post by the_way on Dec 19, 2018 15:19:24 GMT -5
How are more shots made available for Blair and not Pickett? Blair plays more with Mosely and/or one of the two freshman guards. That combination that he plays with shoots the ball a lot less than the combination of Akinjo and McClung. So, Jerry Nichols gets more shots than Boubacar Aw because Page + Iverson aren't on the floor together? Iverson and Page need to take less hots and involve Aw more in the offense?
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Post by HOYAPLAYA on Dec 19, 2018 15:35:02 GMT -5
Blair plays more with Mosely and/or one of the two freshman guards. That combination that he plays with shoots the ball a lot less than the combination of Akinjo and McClung. So, Jerry Nichols gets more shots than Boubacar Aw because Page + Iverson aren't on the floor together? Iverson and Page need to take less hots and involve Aw more in the offense? Nope. Pickett just needs to get more shots and the ball passed his way when he is on the court. We wonder why other teams best shooters get hot and torch us but our best shooters never get the chance. Pickett had some very good games last year when he would get hot and knock down a few shots in a row. Do you think he just forget how to get open for shots over the summer? Tell me one time this season where it seemed like we were feeding the hot hand. The only time I can remember is Malinowski for a stretch of the 2nd half up at Syracuse. Do you know who was playing the guard position? Mosely and Blair. This is part of the reason I think we can't hold on to a lead because we just don't seem to play smart basketball. Pickett gets a DNP coaches decision and comes out and hits a 3 within the first minute of play. Do me a favor and go back and watch our next 5 possessions after he hit his 3. I don't understand why you wouldn't be looking to get him at least one more shot. This team is not a tourney team if we don't figure this out.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Dec 19, 2018 15:35:27 GMT -5
Blair plays more with Mosely and/or one of the two freshman guards. That combination that he plays with shoots the ball a lot less than the combination of Akinjo and McClung. So, Jerry Nichols gets more shots than Boubacar Aw because Page + Iverson aren't on the floor together? Iverson and Page need to take less hots and involve Aw more in the offense? A quote about Jerry Nichols from writer Howard Megdal: "It took just a game or two to discover the astonishing truth: Jerry Nichols wasn't a college scorer. A Georgetown team with Allen Iverson, Victor Page, Jahidi White and Othella Harrington -- had Nichols truly been the small forward most people expected he'd be -- would have been national championship caliber. And that was the astonishing thing about Nichols. You knew right away that he wasn't the answer to Georgetown's small forward drought."
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Post by HOYAPLAYA on Dec 19, 2018 15:37:53 GMT -5
So, Jerry Nichols gets more shots than Boubacar Aw because Page + Iverson aren't on the floor together? Iverson and Page need to take less hots and involve Aw more in the offense? Nope. Pickett just needs to get more shots and the ball passed his way when he is on the court. We wonder why other teams best shooters get hot and torch us but our best shooters never get the chance. Pickett had some very good games last year when he would get hot and knock down a few shots in a row. Do you think he just forget how to get open for shots over the summer? Tell me one time this season where it seemed like we were feeding the hot hand. The only time I can remember is Malinowski for a stretch of the 2nd half up at Syracuse. Do you know who was playing the guard position? Mosely and Blair. This is part of the reason I think we can't hold on to a lead because we just don't seem to play smart basketball. Pickett gets a DNP coaches decision and comes out and hits a 3 within the first minute of play. Do me a favor and go back and watch our next 5 possessions after he hit his 3. I don't understand why you wouldn't be looking to get him at least one more shot. This team is not a tourney team if we don't figure this out. Also, Iverson and Page aren't anywhere near our backcourt these days. If they were, I wouldn't have a problem with less shots for Pickett.
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Post by the_way on Dec 19, 2018 15:43:48 GMT -5
So, Jerry Nichols gets more shots than Boubacar Aw because Page + Iverson aren't on the floor together? Iverson and Page need to take less hots and involve Aw more in the offense? A quote about Jerry Nichols from writer Howard Megdal: "It took just a game or two to discover the astonishing truth: Jerry Nichols wasn't a college scorer. A Georgetown team with Allen Iverson, Victor Page, Jahidi White and Othella Harrington -- had Nichols truly been the small forward most people expected he'd be -- would have been national championship caliber. And that was the astonishing thing about Nichols. You knew right away that he wasn't the answer to Georgetown's small forward drought." Well Nichols was a 2-guard. But yeah, 2-guard/small forward,... he wasn't the answer (no pun). But what about this year's small forward, eh...drizzle?
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Dec 19, 2018 16:08:28 GMT -5
Anyone paired with Mosely in the backcourt will get more shots. The problem is being 4 against 5 on offense.
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Post by the_way on Dec 19, 2018 16:17:36 GMT -5
Anyone paired with Mosely in the backcourt will get more shots. The problem is being 4 against 5 on offense. That would make it more difficult for other scoring options with Mosely on the court. Opposing defenses would focus on stopping the other 4. To still get your shots playing 4 on 5, that is impressive.
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Post by prhoya on Dec 19, 2018 16:29:13 GMT -5
Anyone paired with Mosely in the backcourt will get more shots. The problem is being 4 against 5 on offense. That would make it more difficult for other scoring options with Mosely on the court. Opposing defenses would focus on stopping the other 4. To still get your shots playing 4 on 5, that is impressive. Exactly. Either he shoots the given wide-open 3 or he sits. I don't understand the fear. It's not like he's very bad at it.
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Post by kbones17 on Dec 19, 2018 16:33:10 GMT -5
Anyone paired with Mosely in the backcourt will get more shots. The problem is being 4 against 5 on offense. That would make it more difficult for other scoring options with Mosely on the court. Opposing defenses would focus on stopping the other 4. To still get your shots playing 4 on 5, that is impressive. This whole “playing 4 against 5” idea offensively when Mosely on the floor is overblown. Mosely moves the ball and doesn’t take ill advised shots. He is a good calming presence when Akinjo and Mac start hoisting up quick shots and forgetting to run offense. If you look at the points per possession numbers we are scoring more with Mosely on the floor (per possession) than anyone on the team other than Govan (thru 10 games).
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Post by HOYAPLAYA on Dec 19, 2018 16:39:32 GMT -5
That would make it more difficult for other scoring options with Mosely on the court. Opposing defenses would focus on stopping the other 4. To still get your shots playing 4 on 5, that is impressive. This whole “playing 4 against 5” idea offensively when Mosely on the floor is overblown. Mosely moves the ball and doesn’t take ill advised shots. He is a good calming presence when Akinjo and Mac start hoisting up quick shots and forgetting to run offense. If you look at the points per possession numbers we are scoring more with Mosely on the floor (per possession) than anyone on the team other than Govan (thru 10 games). Watch out, you are letting actual stats/facts get in the way of posters' stories that they have been telling themselves.
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Post by the_way on Dec 19, 2018 16:52:15 GMT -5
That would make it more difficult for other scoring options with Mosely on the court. Opposing defenses would focus on stopping the other 4. To still get your shots playing 4 on 5, that is impressive. This whole “playing 4 against 5” idea offensively when Mosely on the floor is overblown. Mosely moves the ball and doesn’t take ill advised shots. He is a good calming presence when Akinjo and Mac start hoisting up quick shots and forgetting to run offense. If you look at the points per possession numbers we are scoring more with Mosely on the floor (per possession) than anyone on the team other than Govan (thru 10 games). So we should start Mosely and then Pickett will get his shots?
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 19, 2018 16:56:54 GMT -5
This whole “playing 4 against 5” idea offensively when Mosely on the floor is overblown. Mosely moves the ball and doesn’t take ill advised shots. He is a good calming presence when Akinjo and Mac start hoisting up quick shots and forgetting to run offense. If you look at the points per possession numbers we are scoring more with Mosely on the floor (per possession) than anyone on the team other than Govan (thru 10 games). So we should start Mosely and then Pickett will get his shots? No, the staff should get the team to move the ball and themselves more so everybody can get shots...
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Post by the_way on Dec 19, 2018 17:03:51 GMT -5
One player doesn't equal everybody. Seems like one player has been struggling to get shots. Everyone else seems fine playing their roles.
That is what happens when there is an upgrade in talent. Everybody has to adjust, and adapt.
Othella had to adapt to playing with Iverson. Not the other way around.
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Post by HOYAPLAYA on Dec 19, 2018 17:17:40 GMT -5
One player doesn't equal everybody. Seems like one player has been struggling to get shots. Everyone else seems fine playing their roles. That is what happens when there is an upgrade in talent. Everybody has to adjust, and adapt. Othella had to adapt to playing with Iverson. Not the other way around. Which one of our guards is Iverson?
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Post by the_way on Dec 19, 2018 17:30:51 GMT -5
One player doesn't equal everybody. Seems like one player has been struggling to get shots. Everyone else seems fine playing their roles. That is what happens when there is an upgrade in talent. Everybody has to adjust, and adapt. Othella had to adapt to playing with Iverson. Not the other way around. Which one of our guards is Iverson? What Hoya guard in the JT2 era is Iverson? The point is, Iverson was the better talent. Othella had to adjust his game. Mackinjo are better talents....as of now. They can do more with the basketball. Their presence has exposed Pickett's limitations. That could change if Pickett develops some handles and other facets of his game besides shooting 3's.
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 19, 2018 17:31:55 GMT -5
One player doesn't equal everybody. Seems like one player has been struggling to get shots. Everyone else seems fine playing their roles. That is what happens when there is an upgrade in talent. Everybody has to adjust, and adapt. Othella had to adapt to playing with Iverson. Not the other way around. Shouldn't Akinjo & Mac have to adjust their games too?
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