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Post by MCIGuy on Oct 31, 2020 10:39:07 GMT -5
I have a suggestion, perhaps even a plea. Please stop using initials like JA and MM, for instance, and first names. Maybe it's my old age but I have a much easier time following posts if you use last names. If you say Mosely or Pickett or Blair, immediately I know who you are talking about without taxing my lame brain wondering who DH or JB or TI are. Thanks. 😀
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Oct 31, 2020 12:51:18 GMT -5
See...you had to bring up the subject of “lame brains”. Now watch this strand veer off course.
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Post by blueandgray on Oct 31, 2020 16:53:13 GMT -5
Having spoken to nba scouts....they all agree that when Jamarko goes to the hole, instead of laying the ball up high off the glass with a fingeroll, they want to see him hammer it home. He is certainly high enough to dunk it dunk it when gliding to the basket.....in the nba he will have to finish with power.
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Post by dchoya72 on Oct 31, 2020 17:06:00 GMT -5
Having spoken to nba scouts....they all agree that when Jamarko goes to the hole, instead of laying the ball up high off the glass with a fingeroll, they want to see him hammer it home. He is certainly high enough to dunk it dunk it when gliding to the basket.....in the nba he will have to finish with power. I wholeheartedly agree!!!! Dunk the ball!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 18:16:44 GMT -5
Having spoken to nba scouts....they all agree that when Jamarko goes to the hole, instead of laying the ball up high off the glass with a fingeroll, they want to see him hammer it home. He is certainly high enough to dunk it dunk it when gliding to the basket.....in the nba he will have to finish with power. You have to be in perfect position to dunk the ball; mostly have a clear path to the basket in order to dunk it. With the finger roll, you can score from many different angles on the court. You can glide and finger roll. You can post and finger roll. You can lay up and finger roll and you can do all of this with a defender on you. You can't dunk with a guy on you as easier as you can finger roll. So I totally disagree with you and your scouts where it comes to the finger roll vs dunking. Go look at Wilt, Artis Gilmore, Connie Hawkins, Dr. J, Dr. Dunkenstien, the great Ice Man George Gervin and so many others that had the finger roll as their major weapon. Even Kareem used the finger roll. All of these men were unstoppable with the finger roll. So your scouts must be a bunch of young guys that don't know the finger roll.
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Post by blueandgray on Oct 31, 2020 22:15:48 GMT -5
Having spoken to nba scouts....they all agree that when Jamarko goes to the hole, instead of laying the ball up high off the glass with a fingeroll, they want to see him hammer it home. He is certainly high enough to dunk it dunk it when gliding to the basket.....in the nba he will have to finish with power. You have to be in perfect position to dunk the ball; mostly have a clear path to the basket in order to dunk it. With the finger roll, you can score from many different angles on the court. You can glide and finger roll. You can post and finger roll. You can lay up and finger roll and you can do all of this with a defender on you. You can't dunk with a guy on you as easier as you can finger roll. So I totally disagree with you and your scouts where it comes to the finger roll vs dunking. Go look at Wilt, Artis Gilmore, Connie Hawkins, Dr. J, Dr. Dunkenstien, the great Ice Man George Gervin and so many others that had the finger roll as their major weapon. Even Kareem used the finger roll. All of these men were unstoppable with the finger roll. So your scouts must be a bunch of young guys that don't know the finger roll. I respect your opinion.....but what players can you name in today’s nba that rely on finger rolls over dunking? Perhaps Jamarko will be the one and only.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 22:53:49 GMT -5
You have to be in perfect position to dunk the ball; mostly have a clear path to the basket in order to dunk it. With the finger roll, you can score from many different angles on the court. You can glide and finger roll. You can post and finger roll. You can lay up and finger roll and you can do all of this with a defender on you. You can't dunk with a guy on you as easier as you can finger roll. So I totally disagree with you and your scouts where it comes to the finger roll vs dunking. Go look at Wilt, Artis Gilmore, Connie Hawkins, Dr. J, Dr. Dunkenstien, the great Ice Man George Gervin and so many others that had the finger roll as their major weapon. Even Kareem used the finger roll. All of these men were unstoppable with the finger roll. So your scouts must be a bunch of young guys that don't know the finger roll. I respect your opinion.....but what players can you name in today’s nba that rely on finger rolls over dunking? Perhaps Jamarko will be the one and only. See that's what the problem is. Everybody wants to be like somebody else. They all doing the same thing, sitting out on that three point lines waiting to take a three. Basketball is more than just three point shooting. Thank god for AD and Lebron two of only a few that can play without sitting on that three point line ready to take the shot. Lebron and AD can finger roll. I'm pretty sure they can. Now let me hit you up with some finger roll! Jarmorko, now let me see you finger roll baby!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 23:19:48 GMT -5
Pickett finger rolls! 0:24 and 1:14
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Post by tashoya on Nov 1, 2020 0:48:17 GMT -5
I've been pretty vocal about being a big fan of Jamorko here. If the work he's put in, his confidence, and the confidence of his team in him all come together this year, he's going to go off. I'm REALLY hoping that happens for him because I have a ton of respect for the way he's dealt with both his ups and downs. Especially his downs. He never sulked or wilted. He worked. He never didn't show up and didn't give up. I'll be pulling for him and cheering my butt off for him as well when he, hopefully, puts it all together. The man has character. And one doesn't have to be particularly vocal for that to rub off. I can't wait to see what he's able to do.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2020 1:07:12 GMT -5
I've been pretty vocal about being a big fan of Jamorko here. If the work he's put in, his confidence, and the confidence of his team in him all come together this year, he's going to go off. I'm REALLY hoping that happens for him because I have a ton of respect for the way he's dealt with both his ups and downs. Especially his downs. He never sulked or wilted. He worked. He never didn't show up and didn't give up. I'll be pulling for him and cheering my butt off for him as well when he, hopefully, puts it all together. The man has character. And one doesn't have to be particularly vocal for that to rub off. I can't wait to see what he's able to do. He's going to the NBA. Mark my words!
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Post by bornhoya on Nov 1, 2020 8:09:49 GMT -5
I respect your opinion.....but what players can you name in today’s nba that rely on finger rolls over dunking? Perhaps Jamarko will be the one and only. See that's what the problem is. Everybody wants to be like somebody else. They all doing the same thing, sitting out on that three point lines waiting to take a three. Basketball is more than just three point shooting. Thank god for AD and Lebron two of only a few that can play without sitting on that three point line ready to take the shot. Lebron and AD can finger roll. I'm pretty sure they can. Now let me hit you up with some finger roll! Jarmorko, now let me see you finger roll baby! The thing about Marko’s finger roll is that he sometimes does it off balance which gives it a different spin and can led to it bouncing out. So on some of his drives dunking it would be the better basketball play
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Post by hoyazeke on Nov 1, 2020 9:36:57 GMT -5
Having spoken to nba scouts....they all agree that when Jamarko goes to the hole, instead of laying the ball up high off the glass with a fingeroll, they want to see him hammer it home. He is certainly high enough to dunk it dunk it when gliding to the basket.....in the nba he will have to finish with power. You have to be in perfect position to dunk the ball; mostly have a clear path to the basket in order to dunk it. With the finger roll, you can score from many different angles on the court. You can glide and finger roll. You can post and finger roll. You can lay up and finger roll and you can do all of this with a defender on you. You can't dunk with a guy on you as easier as you can finger roll. So I totally disagree with you and your scouts where it comes to the finger roll vs dunking. Go look at Wilt, Artis Gilmore, Connie Hawkins, Dr. J, Dr. Dunkenstien, the great Ice Man George Gervin and so many others that had the finger roll as their major weapon. Even Kareem used the finger roll. All of these men were unstoppable with the finger roll. So your scouts must be a bunch of young guys that don't know the finger roll. Going to the rim with the intent to dunk is a mentality that Morko has to develop. It's not something you can do every time but when you are 6'8-6'10(whatever his true height may be) you should be able to attack the rim with aggression. You can't make a excuse for Morko having to have "perfect" position to try to dunk. Westbrook is smaller and almost every time he attacks the rim he has "bad intentions".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2020 15:55:58 GMT -5
You have to be in perfect position to dunk the ball; mostly have a clear path to the basket in order to dunk it. With the finger roll, you can score from many different angles on the court. You can glide and finger roll. You can post and finger roll. You can lay up and finger roll and you can do all of this with a defender on you. You can't dunk with a guy on you as easier as you can finger roll. So I totally disagree with you and your scouts where it comes to the finger roll vs dunking. Go look at Wilt, Artis Gilmore, Connie Hawkins, Dr. J, Dr. Dunkenstien, the great Ice Man George Gervin and so many others that had the finger roll as their major weapon. Even Kareem used the finger roll. All of these men were unstoppable with the finger roll. So your scouts must be a bunch of young guys that don't know the finger roll. Going to the rim with the intent to dunk is a mentality that Morko has to develop. It's not something you can do every time but when you are 6'8-6'10(whatever his true height may be) you should be able to attack the rim with aggression. You can't make a excuse for Morko having to have "perfect" position to try to dunk. Westbrook is smaller and almost every time he attacks the rim he has "bad intentions". I'm not making an excuse for anyone to dunk. I am saying a finger roll has a higher percentage chance of pulling off than a dunk. Did you look at the videos I attached? ? No, you didn't. You couldn't have because if you did, you would have seen players finger rolling without even leaving the floor. How many can dunk a ball without leaving the floor or without jumping and with thier backs facing the basket? Well you can do that with a finger roll. Okay then I rest my case.
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Post by blueandgray on Nov 1, 2020 17:31:48 GMT -5
I've been pretty vocal about being a big fan of Jamorko here. If the work he's put in, his confidence, and the confidence of his team in him all come together this year, he's going to go off. I'm REALLY hoping that happens for him because I have a ton of respect for the way he's dealt with both his ups and downs. Especially his downs. He never sulked or wilted. He worked. He never didn't show up and didn't give up. I'll be pulling for him and cheering my butt off for him as well when he, hopefully, puts it all together. The man has character. And one doesn't have to be particularly vocal for that to rub off. I can't wait to see what he's able to do. He's going to the NBA. Mark my words! So are you basing this on any mock drafts or any other data or are you just supremely confident in your ability to assess talent and development?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2020 17:47:26 GMT -5
He's going to the NBA. Mark my words! So are you basing this on any mock drafts or any other data or are you just supremely confident in your ability to assess talent and development? The latter.
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Post by hoyazeke on Nov 1, 2020 20:06:55 GMT -5
Going to the rim with the intent to dunk is a mentality that Morko has to develop. It's not something you can do every time but when you are 6'8-6'10(whatever his true height may be) you should be able to attack the rim with aggression. You can't make a excuse for Morko having to have "perfect" position to try to dunk. Westbrook is smaller and almost every time he attacks the rim he has "bad intentions". I'm not making an excuse for anyone to dunk. I am saying a finger roll has a higher percentage chance of pulling off than a dunk. Did you look at the videos I attached? ? No, you didn't. You couldn't have because if you did, you would have seen players finger rolling without even leaving the floor. How many can dunk a ball without leaving the floor or without jumping and with thier backs facing the basket? Well you can do that with a finger roll. Okay then I rest my case. Hoyafan I watched part of the 1st video but I didn't need to watch to understand the finger roll is a nice shot to have in your arsenal. Morko attempts finger rolls plenty and has very little success. It's a really difficult shot and if you have a incorrect spin your chance of finishing is slim. But my biggest issue is that the finger roll is a finesse shot and if you miss you aren't going to get many foul calls. My goal for Morko is less finesse and more aggression. At least in the paint.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Nov 1, 2020 22:09:05 GMT -5
My man, Pickett will put it all on display when the action start up again.
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Post by tashoya on Nov 1, 2020 22:57:49 GMT -5
Jamorko's future is in his hands. He has a future as a pro. Where he'll be playing will have a lot to do with what he shows this year. He's always had potential. And, he's made a lot of progress on the defensive end and in his rebounding. His measurables are attractive but he needs to show that his stroke has become more fluid and repeatable and not turn down open shots. He needs to show that his handle has improved considerably and that his decision-making, on the offensive end especially, have improved significantly. He needs to be a guy that can help carry a half when his team is struggling both from outside and slashing. He looks to have put on some muscle and I'm willing to bet that we'll see that he's upped his skill level too. Some guys take a little longer to put it all together and some guys just don't have enough tools to put together. I think Pickett is in the former group. I'm very much hoping I'm right about that for his sake. It's been a bumpy ride for him but he's represented himself and our Hoyas extremely well through a bunch of turmoil both with regard to his own playing time/role and his team's upheaval. I hope he erases any doubts and makes himself into a player that is on the radar of NBA teams. The guy is still growing. Both his game and physically. He seems, physically, like a late bloomer but, character-wise, he's well ahead of his actual age. I pull for all of our Hoyas but I'm really pulling for Pickett because he's shown the kind of man he is and has shown flashes of the player that, maybe, he could be. Get 'em, Morko!
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Post by hoyas315 on Nov 22, 2020 19:30:28 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2020 19:33:11 GMT -5
Jamorko's future is in his hands. He has a future as a pro. Where he'll be playing will have a lot to do with what he shows this year. He's always had potential. And, he's made a lot of progress on the defensive end and in his rebounding. His measurables are attractive but he needs to show that his stroke has become more fluid and repeatable and not turn down open shots. He needs to show that his handle has improved considerably and that his decision-making, on the offensive end especially, have improved significantly. He needs to be a guy that can help carry a half when his team is struggling both from outside and slashing. He looks to have put on some muscle and I'm willing to bet that we'll see that he's upped his skill level too. Some guys take a little longer to put it all together and some guys just don't have enough tools to put together. I think Pickett is in the former group. I'm very much hoping I'm right about that for his sake. It's been a bumpy ride for him but he's represented himself and our Hoyas extremely well through a bunch of turmoil both with regard to his own playing time/role and his team's upheaval. I hope he erases any doubts and makes himself into a player that is on the radar of NBA teams. The guy is still growing. Both his game and physically. He seems, physically, like a late bloomer but, character-wise, he's well ahead of his actual age. I pull for all of our Hoyas but I'm really pulling for Pickett because he's shown the kind of man he is and has shown flashes of the player that, maybe, he could be. Get 'em, Morko! And he also needs to finger roll. Don't forget that part.
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