dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Oct 29, 2020 20:31:39 GMT -5
I believe his biggest challenges were confidence and footwork. His footwork improved significantly last season. If he continues that improvement and really plays confident he will skyrocket. Also he has grown. Probably working with coach Crouch, he may become amazing!
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DudeSlade
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Post by DudeSlade on Oct 30, 2020 8:47:08 GMT -5
Being a senior is a very different experience for all students - I remember that feeling of leveling up as I prepared for the real world. We have a tendency nowadays to expect top athletes to be ready to go from the moment they hit campus and if they’re gonna succeed, that we’ll see it in the first two years, but it makes sense to me that the maturation in many ways can take just as long for some athletes as a normal student.
All that is to say, I’m really willing to buy into the Jamorko hype this season. I think he’s gonna be 2nd team All-Big East at minimum and think 1st team is a very real chance. His defense significantly improved last year. He came up with many big blocks and rebounds I didn’t know he had in him. He at times was a better stopper than our 5 was, which shocked me. He seemed to gain confidence as he saw his defense make a difference.
If he can keep that confidence on the offensive side and if his shot becomes more consistent and especially his handles and passing tighter - he needs to cut down on sloppiness and turnovers when trying to make something happen — he’s gonna surprise a lot of people.
I wish for him we had a normal non-conference schedule that he could beat up on poor teams to grow that confidence before the conference games. The real question to me is gonna be what happens after he has a bad game. If he bounces back hard, he could be what we always hoped.
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Post by drquigley on Oct 30, 2020 9:48:01 GMT -5
I believe his biggest challenges were confidence and footwork. His footwork improved significantly last season. If he continues that improvement and really plays confident he will skyrocket. Also he has grown. Probably working with coach Crouch, he may become amazing! I have to disagree. Yes he has some great athleticism and yes he has has steadily improved his footwork. But to me his greatest drawback was a lack of basketball smarts. He really has never seemed to appreciate the mental aspect of the game. Too often he looked lost out there on the court and would make bonehead plays or find himself way out of position. I worry that if he is expected to be our senior team "leader" we will be in big trouble. Maybe Blair will grow into that role this year but I worry that he isn't up to it either, especially if he is fighting for minutes against some of the newbies. When you look at all the successful programs (yes I'm talking about Nova) there was always a guy that coach could rely on to do the right thing and rally the troops. I don't see that person on our roster and it worries me as much as the actual athletic talent on the court.
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Oct 30, 2020 10:19:14 GMT -5
Interesting take.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2020 10:23:37 GMT -5
Jarmorko is going to be the leader whether or not you guys like it or not. Jarmorko is the emotional leader already and this year he is going to be the outspoken one. He will be the coach on the floor and he will do a good job.
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Oct 30, 2020 10:23:42 GMT -5
I believe his biggest challenges were confidence and footwork. His footwork improved significantly last season. If he continues that improvement and really plays confident he will skyrocket. Also he has grown. Probably working with coach Crouch, he may become amazing! I have to disagree. Yes he has some great athleticism and yes he has has steadily improved his footwork. But to me his greatest drawback was a lack of basketball smarts. He really has never seemed to appreciate the mental aspect of the game. Too often he looked lost out there on the court and would make bonehead plays or find himself way out of position. I worry that if he is expected to be our senior team "leader" we will be in big trouble. Maybe Blair will grow into that role this year but I worry that he isn't up to it either, especially if he is fighting for minutes against some of the newbies. When you look at all the successful programs (yes I'm talking about Nova) there was always a guy that coach could rely on to do the right thing and rally the troops. I don't see that person on our roster and it worries me as much as the actual athletic talent on the court. This is where you miss the Jonathan Wallace’s of the world, an Ashanti Cook, a Markel Starks, a Jeff Green or Otto Porter. I might even include a Jagan Mosely (although he did have a few game ending turnovers he forced in his career). Yeah, not convinced we have that guy on our team this year.
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Oct 30, 2020 10:25:10 GMT -5
For me....jamarko’s biggest weaknesses have always been his confidence followed by his ball handling.
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Oct 30, 2020 11:13:54 GMT -5
For me....jamarko’s biggest weaknesses have always been his confidence followed by his ball handling. I don't disagree, but maybe he has grown. He says the light has been turned on! We have recruited some transfers that are experienced and they will help. I think it is right for coach to lean on him for leadership, and for him to step up to the plate.
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Post by trillesthoya on Oct 30, 2020 11:34:21 GMT -5
For everyone saying we don’t have a Mosely this year, I don’t recall anyone speaking about Mosely at all after his junior season as a leader, if we’re being honest he grew into that role once the transfers hit. No reason to believe someone else can’t grow into that role this season. Our other leader last season was Terrell and he wasn’t even on the team before that. Why couldn’t Jalen play the same role?
Jamorko is extremely well liked on the team and seems to have found a new source of inspiration this summer, so I have confidence we will not be lacking in the leadership department.
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Post by cindad on Oct 30, 2020 11:52:26 GMT -5
Pickett, is positioned to have one of those years where it will be 'What-If'. I think it all comes together for him this year. IDK what the team record will be, but he has unlimited minutes and no one on the roster that can duplicate his skillset.
Honestly don't be shocked if he ends up 1st team Big East, just from how he will fill stats sheets this year.
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Post by bornhoya on Oct 30, 2020 13:56:09 GMT -5
I believe his biggest challenges were confidence and footwork. His footwork improved significantly last season. If he continues that improvement and really plays confident he will skyrocket. Also he has grown. Probably working with coach Crouch, he may become amazing! I have to disagree. Yes he has some great athleticism and yes he has has steadily improved his footwork. But to me his greatest drawback was a lack of basketball smarts. He really has never seemed to appreciate the mental aspect of the game. Too often he looked lost out there on the court and would make bonehead plays or find himself way out of position. I worry that if he is expected to be our senior team "leader" we will be in big trouble. Maybe Blair will grow into that role this year but I worry that he isn't up to it either, especially if he is fighting for minutes against some of the newbies. When you look at all the successful programs (yes I'm talking about Nova) there was always a guy that coach could rely on to do the right thing and rally the troops. I don't see that person on our roster and it worries me as much as the actual athletic talent on the court. Maybe he was out of position cause the last year and a half he played with two ball dominated guards that would only pass to the wing when the shot clock was running down. He played a better floor game when Allen took over
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Oct 30, 2020 14:00:48 GMT -5
People grow, and develop. Sometimes they have an epiphany and figure it all out. Things come together from that point onward. That could be Jamorko this year!!
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Oct 30, 2020 14:51:26 GMT -5
I hope he channels Henry Sims for his senior year. Go 'Morko!
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Post by hoyazeke on Oct 30, 2020 15:11:48 GMT -5
For me....jamarko’s biggest weaknesses have always been his confidence followed by his ball handling. I don't disagree, but maybe he has grown. He says the light has been turned on! We have recruited some transfers that are experienced and they will help. I think it is right for coach to lean on him for leadership, and for him to step up to the plate. I disagree with B&G's take. The way I see it Morko didn't have a confidence issue until soph year. That issue continued into his junior year until around midseason. What happened 1/3 of the way through his junior season? The 2 alphas left the team for various reasons. Believe it or not but some personalities don't mesh and it can affect your game. I'm not going to bash JA because he was one of my fave Hoyas but I know I couldn't play with him....
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Post by bostonfan on Oct 30, 2020 15:35:42 GMT -5
For me....jamarko’s biggest weaknesses have always been his confidence followed by his ball handling. I won't argue about his confidence or ball handling being issues for Jamorko his first three years, but I have always felt his biggest issue was his lack of basketball instincts. He has never seemed to have a really good "feel" for the game. He has all the physical traits and skills that should make him successful, but he doesn't seem to anticipate the game/plays as well as some other players. I think that is something that some guys just have, and others don't. I like Jamorko and think he has great potential and will be cheering for him to have a huge year this season.
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Post by calhoya on Oct 30, 2020 15:59:43 GMT -5
I don't disagree, but maybe he has grown. He says the light has been turned on! We have recruited some transfers that are experienced and they will help. I think it is right for coach to lean on him for leadership, and for him to step up to the plate. I disagree with B&G's take. The way I see it Morko didn't have a confidence issue until soph year. That issue continued into his junior year until around midseason. What happened 1/3 of the way through his junior season? The 2 alphas left the team for various reasons. Believe it or not but some personalities don't mesh and it can affect your game. I'm not going to bash JA because he was one of my fave Hoyas but I know I couldn't play with him.... Last season was a disaster on so many levels, but I agree that one benefit of the departures was watching Allen and Mosley get the entire team involved. At least until the stress of a short rotation wore down the remaining players, we saw the best ball movement of the Ewing era and decent defense without having to endure the ongoing competition that JA and MM seemed to engage in throughout their brief careers here. I often think that if only one had left this year the other would develop into a complete guard and a leader of the team.
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Post by EasyEd on Oct 30, 2020 18:59:17 GMT -5
I have a suggestion, perhaps even a plea. Please stop using initials like JA and MM, for instance, and first names. Maybe it's my old age but I have a much easier time following posts if you use last names. If you say Mosely or Pickett or Blair, immediately I know who you are talking about without taxing my lame brain wondering who DH or JB or TI are. Thanks.
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Post by dchoya72 on Oct 30, 2020 19:12:32 GMT -5
Jagan Mosley came in with a reputation as a leader. For whatever the reason, for me, his leadership, or desire to be an on-court leader showed up in his junior and I thought it was a disaster. With the game in the line, at the end of 3 games, he took matters into his own hands, and in my opinion blew it, he didnt deliver. Although that was the case, he showed the coach his guts, trying to deliver, being the leader. In his senior year. things came together. He was hitting his jumper, more assured of his handle. and going to the hoop with authority. His Hoya career ended well and I was happy for him.
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Post by hoyazeke on Oct 31, 2020 4:44:23 GMT -5
I have a suggestion, perhaps even a plea. Please stop using initials like JA and MM, for instance, and first names. Maybe it's my old age but I have a much easier time following posts if you use last names. If you say Mosely or Pickett or Blair, immediately I know who you are talking about without taxing my lame brain wondering who DH or JB or TI are. Thanks. EE. I mean EasyEd..lol. I can do your request. No problem.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 6:53:45 GMT -5
I have a suggestion, perhaps even a plea. Please stop using initials like JA and MM, for instance, and first names. Maybe it's my old age but I have a much easier time following posts if you use last names. If you say Mosely or Pickett or Blair, immediately I know who you are talking about without taxing my lame brain wondering who DH or JB or TI are. Thanks. EE. I mean EasyEd..lol. I can do your request. No problem. TI is Tip. He's a rapper from Atlanta Georgia. He was once known as King of the South.
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