Jamorko Pickett

[hoyazeke]

Sept 28, 2021 5:51:38 GMT -5 cas92 said:

Sept 28, 2021 5:41:45 GMT -5 dchoya72 said:

What does this last sentence mean? "Stick in the L"?

Both make it to AND stay in the NBA.

^this^

[professorhoya]

Sept 27, 2021 23:43:07 GMT -5 DanMcQ said:

He looks so much more athletic and explosive now. Look out!

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Word.

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Of course, we already knew this about Pickett. It is so nice to hear a professional notice the same things we noticed about Pickett, right guys?!!

[HometownHoya]

Shows what good coaching does. Pat knows what NBA coaches look for in the players who stick in the league and if his guys listen, they'll get a shot.

[hoya73]

And if they, or some uncle or some handler know better than to stick with and listen to Ewing they may end up getting a shot anyway, but may be clueless as to how to take advantage of it.

[rockhoya]

Sept 29, 2021 15:02:28 GMT -5 HometownHoya said:

Shows what good coaching does. Pat knows what NBA coaches look for in the players who stick in the league and if his guys listen, they'll get a shot.

Exactly! That’s why it’s exciting he will have a team full of his guys (that he recruited). Looking forward to seeing what he does to develop folks moving forward. If Coach Crouch keeps doing what he’s doing, he’s going to a national household name eventually. Luckily, he has enough ties to this area that we might have the upper hand in keeping him when it reaches that point.

[rockhoya]

Sept 29, 2021 15:22:50 GMT -5 hoya73 said:

And if they, or some uncle or some handler know better than to stick with and listen to Ewing they may end up getting a shot anyway, but may be clueless as to how to take advantage of it.

Agreed. It’s too bad Jessie never played with a real backup for four years (and only one with Ewing), thus developing a lot of poor defensive habits. He’d be in the league as well.

[hoyasaxa2003]

Sept 29, 2021 16:21:13 GMT -5 rockhoya said:

Sept 29, 2021 15:22:50 GMT -5 hoya73 said:

And if they, or some uncle or some handler know better than to stick with and listen to Ewing they may end up getting a shot anyway, but may be clueless as to how to take advantage of it.

Agreed. It’s too bad Jessie never played with a real backup for four years (and only one with Ewing), thus developing a lot of poor defensive habits. He’d be in the league as well.

Didn't Govan play two years with Ewing? His freshman year, Govan/Hayes played similar amounts of time, and Hayes was on the team his sophomore year too. It's true that by junior year, Govan had no real backup, though, as Mourning's ability was very limited.

Also, to your other post, Ewing recruited the full team last year (though obviously the seniors last year were his first/rushed recruitment year), too.

[rockhoya]

Sept 29, 2021 16:41:15 GMT -5 hoyasaxa2003 said:

Sept 29, 2021 16:21:13 GMT -5 rockhoya said:

Agreed. It’s too bad Jessie never played with a real backup for four years (and only one with Ewing), thus developing a lot of poor defensive habits. He’d be in the league as well.

Didn't Govan play two years with Ewing? Also, to your other post, Ewing recruited the full team last year (though obviously the seniors last year were his first/rushed recruitment year), too.

You are correct, had my years off by one year (doing too many things at once). Though yes, I wouldn’t consider that first class to be of his makeup, but I do recognize that’s not what I said my mistake.

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[SDHoya]

People should recall that Pickett was a train-wreck defensively as a frosh. That is is now in good position to make the League based on defensive acumen is pretty incredible and credit should be given to both Pickett for his commitment as well as the coaching staff.

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Think there's a big difference between Jessie and Jamorko when it comes to what NBA teams want/are looking for. Since Morko stepped foot on campus he's been the top prospect on this team. He has multiple skills and talents NBA teams look for in a kid. Size for position, length, athleticism, shooting ability, and a switchable on defense. He's a leader and a good communicator also so he has the intangibles folks look for as well.

We're a college team so I get why folks were sometimes disappointed in what he did here, but his game is probably more suited for an NBA role player/complimentary piece than a primary scorer at the college level. We hoped he would develop that way, but that's probably just not in his DNA.

IMO the staff did a good job simplifying his role and utilizing him in a way that easily translates to the role he would play as a professional. Remember he came in as a tall SG, who shied away from contact, and had no defensive awareness at all. When he wasn't hitting shots he would mope and disappear. He grew into a physical guy who takes pride in his defense. He became a force on the glass, and a totally selfless kid who can contribute to winning without scoring a point and be fine with it.

[rockhoya]

Sept 29, 2021 17:23:20 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

Think there's a big difference between Jessie and Jamorko when it comes to what NBA teams want/are looking for. Since Morko stepped foot on campus he's been the top prospect on this team. He has multiple skills and talents NBA teams look for in a kid. Size for position, length, athleticism, shooting ability, and a switchable on defense. He's a leader and a good communicator also so he has the intangibles folks look for as well.

We're a college team so I get why folks were sometimes disappointed in what he did here, but his game is probably more suited for an NBA role player/complimentary piece than a primary scorer at the college level. We hoped he would develop that way, but that's probably just not in his DNA.

IMO the staff did a good job simplifying his role and utilizing him in a way that easily translates to the role he would play as a professional. Remember he came in as a tall SG, who shied away from contact, and had no defensive awareness at all. When he wasn't hitting shots he would mope and disappear. He grew into a physical guy who takes pride in his defense. He became a force on the glass, and a totally selfless kid who can contribute to winning without scoring a point and be fine with it.

Agreed, but nothing you said there was any different for Jessie. He was a 4 star and quite frankly and elite, elite jump shooter at his position. It’s a greater comparative advantage than anything Pickett does, so I’m not sure I see your point. The difference is it took Jessie a little longer to acclimate to the college game, and of course the ones we both already touched on (having half the time developing under this coaching staff). His issues are on the defensive end, but as far as his tangibles and intangibles go he’s an NBA player on the offensive end.

Morko didn’t arrive on campus an NBA player, despite the supposed hype train. The only thing NBA about his game was that was out of the ordinary his length. That’s it. Comparisons to KD or blah blah blah whatever we’re just pipe dreams and super lazy projections. Credit Morko for putting in the work to improve, I always thought he’d end up there (particularly after Kenner soph year). Jessie came in with the same pedigree though, he wasn’t blessed with the defensive talent.

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Sept 29, 2021 17:34:07 GMT -5 rockhoya said:

Sept 29, 2021 17:23:20 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

Think there's a big difference between Jessie and Jamorko when it comes to what NBA teams want/are looking for. Since Morko stepped foot on campus he's been the top prospect on this team. He has multiple skills and talents NBA teams look for in a kid. Size for position, length, athleticism, shooting ability, and a switchable on defense. He's a leader and a good communicator also so he has the intangibles folks look for as well.

We're a college team so I get why folks were sometimes disappointed in what he did here, but his game is probably more suited for an NBA role player/complimentary piece than a primary scorer at the college level. We hoped he would develop that way, but that's probably just not in his DNA.

IMO the staff did a good job simplifying his role and utilizing him in a way that easily translates to the role he would play as a professional. Remember he came in as a tall SG, who shied away from contact, and had no defensive awareness at all. When he wasn't hitting shots he would mope and disappear. He grew into a physical guy who takes pride in his defense. He became a force on the glass, and a totally selfless kid who can contribute to winning without scoring a point and be fine with it.

Agreed, but nothing you said there was any different for Jessie. He was a 4 star and quite frankly and elite, elite jump shooter at his position. It’s a greater comparative advantage than anything Pickett does, so I’m not sure I see your point. The difference is it took Jessie a little longer to acclimate to the college game, and of course the ones we both already touched on (having half the time developing under this coaching staff). His issues are on the defensive end, but as far as his tangibles and intangibles go he’s an NBA player on the offensive end.

Morko didn’t arrive on campus an NBA player, despite the supposed hype train. The only thing NBA about his game was that was out of the ordinary his length. That’s it. Comparisons to KD or blah blah blah whatever we’re just pipe dreams and super lazy projections. Credit Morko for putting in the work to improve, I always thought he’d end up there (particularly after Kenner soph year). Jessie came in with the same pedigree though, he wasn’t blessed with the defensive talent.

Not true imo. Jessie has average size and length. He's a below average NBA athlete (vertically and laterally), and can't guard on the perimeter so he isn't a switchable. His shooting is NBA level.

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Sept 29, 2021 17:23:20 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

Think there's a big difference between Jessie and Jamorko when it comes to what NBA teams want/are looking for. Since Morko stepped foot on campus he's been the top prospect on this team. He has multiple skills and talents NBA teams look for in a kid. Size for position, length, athleticism, shooting ability, and a switchable on defense. He's a leader and a good communicator also so he has the intangibles folks look for as well.

We're a college team so I get why folks were sometimes disappointed in what he did here, but his game is probably more suited for an NBA role player/complimentary piece than a primary scorer at the college level. We hoped he would develop that way, but that's probably just not in his DNA.

IMO the staff did a good job simplifying his role and utilizing him in a way that easily translates to the role he would play as a professional. Remember he came in as a tall SG, who shied away from contact, and had no defensive awareness at all. When he wasn't hitting shots he would mope and disappear. He grew into a physical guy who takes pride in his defense. He became a force on the glass, and a totally selfless kid who can contribute to winning without scoring a point and be fine with it.

The bold parts I totally, totally agree and those (bold parts) were the reasons why I thought that he would make it in the NBA someday.  His game was limited in college because the college game is more restrictive whereas the NBA game is more free flowing which I believe the Morko would do much better should he got to the league.  Now that's not to say that he couldn't have done better than he did on the college level.  But, he will do much better in the NBA than he did at Georgetown.

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[professorhoya]

Sept 29, 2021 17:34:07 GMT -5 rockhoya said:

Sept 29, 2021 17:23:20 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

Think there's a big difference between Jessie and Jamorko when it comes to what NBA teams want/are looking for. Since Morko stepped foot on campus he's been the top prospect on this team. He has multiple skills and talents NBA teams look for in a kid. Size for position, length, athleticism, shooting ability, and a switchable on defense. He's a leader and a good communicator also so he has the intangibles folks look for as well.

We're a college team so I get why folks were sometimes disappointed in what he did here, but his game is probably more suited for an NBA role player/complimentary piece than a primary scorer at the college level. We hoped he would develop that way, but that's probably just not in his DNA.

IMO the staff did a good job simplifying his role and utilizing him in a way that easily translates to the role he would play as a professional. Remember he came in as a tall SG, who shied away from contact, and had no defensive awareness at all. When he wasn't hitting shots he would mope and disappear. He grew into a physical guy who takes pride in his defense. He became a force on the glass, and a totally selfless kid who can contribute to winning without scoring a point and be fine with it.

Agreed, but nothing you said there was any different for Jessie. He was a 4 star and quite frankly and elite, elite jump shooter at his position. It’s a greater comparative advantage than anything Pickett does, so I’m not sure I see your point. The difference is it took Jessie a little longer to acclimate to the college game, and of course the ones we both already touched on (having half the time developing under this coaching staff). His issues are on the defensive end, but as far as his tangibles and intangibles go he’s an NBA player on the offensive end.

Morko didn’t arrive on campus an NBA player, despite the supposed hype train. The only thing NBA about his game was that was out of the ordinary his length. That’s it. Comparisons to KD or blah blah blah whatever we’re just pipe dreams and super lazy projections. Credit Morko for putting in the work to improve, I always thought he’d end up there (particularly after Kenner soph year). Jessie came in with the same pedigree though, he wasn’t blessed with the defensive talent.

That's probably the main difference.

JaMorko listened to everything coach told him. When he came in he couldn't box out, couldn't rebound, couldn't defend.
He worked on his weaknesses, listened to coach and those things became his strengths along with the skills he already had. This is what is making him a complete player that NBA teams are taking notice to.

He didn't complain or pout that he wasn't getting the shot attempts, touches or stats that filled the box score. Instead he concentrated on listening to coach. By senior year he was regularly shutting down the opponent's best offensive player. These things don't show up in the stats but prepared him for the next level.

With Govan, even senior year I saw him fall in love with the 3pt shot and drifting outside instead of mixing his game up. It's easy to fall in love with that when you hear advanced analytics guys saying the NBA is all about the 3pter. But still what gets you to the next level is the grunt work (rebounding, defense, hustle and smart basketball).

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Oct 1, 2021 16:07:54 GMT -5 professorhoya said:

Sept 29, 2021 17:34:07 GMT -5 rockhoya said:

Agreed, but nothing you said there was any different for Jessie. He was a 4 star and quite frankly and elite, elite jump shooter at his position. It’s a greater comparative advantage than anything Pickett does, so I’m not sure I see your point. The difference is it took Jessie a little longer to acclimate to the college game, and of course the ones we both already touched on (having half the time developing under this coaching staff). His issues are on the defensive end, but as far as his tangibles and intangibles go he’s an NBA player on the offensive end.

Morko didn’t arrive on campus an NBA player, despite the supposed hype train. The only thing NBA about his game was that was out of the ordinary his length. That’s it. Comparisons to KD or blah blah blah whatever we’re just pipe dreams and super lazy projections. Credit Morko for putting in the work to improve, I always thought he’d end up there (particularly after Kenner soph year). Jessie came in with the same pedigree though, he wasn’t blessed with the defensive talent.

That's probably the main difference.

JaMorko listened to everything coach told him. When he came in he couldn't box out, couldn't rebound, couldn't defend.
He worked on his weaknesses, listened to coach and those things became his strengths along with the skills he already had. This is what is making him a complete player that NBA teams are taking notice to.

He didn't complain or pout that he wasn't getting the shot attempts, touches or stats that filled the box score. Instead he concentrated on listening to coach. By senior year he was regularly shutting down the opponent's best offensive player. These things don't show up in the stats but prepared him for the next level.

With Govan, even senior year I saw him fall in love with the 3pt shot and drifting outside instead of mixing his game up. It's easy to fall in love with that when you hear advanced analytics guys saying the NBA is all about the 3pter. But still what gets you to the next level is the grunt work (rebounding, defense, hustle and smart basketball).

Ain't that the truth!  Preach man!