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Post by professorhoya on Nov 29, 2017 6:47:21 GMT -5
Quick thoughts: - I think this was easily our worst performance of the season. We weren’t operating well as a unit, we were sloppy, and the effort wasn’t there. - On effort, our guys came out pretty well but seemed to get complacent once they built a lead. Maine is not a good team. It was way too close. Ewing: “I was disappointed in our effort tonight,” Ewing said. “We’ve been playing very well, but tonight we took a step backward. Nothing against Maine. They’re an outstanding ballclub. They’re very well-coached, but we just didn’t do all the things that we were doing well.” - Pickett had a really poor game. I can think of at least three really bad turnovers. - Our defense continues to have huge holes allowing opposing guards to drive in. I hate to think what it’ll be like when we face an opponent that’s not bottom 50. - Announced attendance was overs 4,000 but it certainly seemed like less. - Not to beat the dead horse but tonight was a good illustration where these cupcake games have little to no value. Little entertainment value for fans and the players don’t get any sort of challenge. Ewing basically said we played bad and we still won by 20. There’s excitement right there. And just think, we’ve got three more opponents worse than Maine. At least Maine pressed. Something to be learned there. MaIne had a pretty good full court press and half court trap. They don't have the length or athletes but their press was well coordinated, well disciplined and everyone was on the same page. Maines press was a lot better than the team we played earlier that had a full court press. |
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Nov 29, 2017 7:12:06 GMT -5
At least Maine pressed. Something to be learned there. MaIne had a pretty good full court press and half court trap. They don't have the length or athletes but their press was well coordinated, well disciplined and everyone was on the same page. Maines press was a lot better than the team we played earlier that had a full court press. I think we got lazy against it as well and Ewing will probably have some words about that. This wasn't a game to judge defense because Maine can't shoot. Offensively the goal was to see if anyone not named Mulmore can handle different looks in the press. Mission not accomplished. I think we're trying to build depth but it just might not be there. Still early, but I would like to see improvement from Pickett (which I think will happen), Sodom be at least dependable for 5 minutes (which might happen), and a second guard step up and be able to push the ball (really think this won't happen unfortunately). We'll see. |
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 29, 2017 7:23:30 GMT -5
At least Maine pressed. Something to be learned there. MaIne had a pretty good full court press and half court trap. They don't have the length or athletes but their press was well coordinated, well disciplined and everyone was on the same page. Maines press was a lot better than the team we played earlier that had a full court press. Mount St. Mary's was the other team that pressed us with it's so-called "Mayhem" press. Javion Christian was an assistant under Shaka Smart and modeled his press after the "Havoc" press which he learned under Smart. |
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 29, 2017 7:57:49 GMT -5
We really need a skilled PG. That alone would limit turnovers and we could handle the press better.
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Post by calhoya on Nov 29, 2017 7:59:21 GMT -5
Agree that this was not a good game in general, though Mulmore continues to progress into a very competent point guard. I still have hope for Dickerson with more time. Also note that a month ago the concern was that this team lacked a competent PG and now the concern is that there is only one. There is no superstar at pg this year but Mulmore is passing the test so far as being able to run this team. Pickett definitely needs to slow the game down as he is trying too hard, forcing his shots and telegraphing passes. Mosley has also been off the last couple of games. Blair is going to be a good addition but also needs to take off the blinders and see the whole court when he has the ball and not lock in to when he has the ball. Growing pains are tolerable as long as there is growth.
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Post by bostonfan on Nov 29, 2017 9:21:35 GMT -5
A completely uninspiring performance last night by the Hoyas, especially on the defensive end. Glad to see the coach acknowledged that and sent that message to his players. If they hope to be even competitive in Big East games they need to play with more focus, energy and effort on the defensive end and on the glass. You can use the excuse that they took Maine for granted and knew the outcome was never in doubt, but these early games are about developing good habits and that did not happen last night. Could be a couple of days of hard practice in store for the guys before the next game!!
On a positive note, it is good to see that pretty much everyone seems empowered to be agressive offensively. Last year that was not the case, with the exception of Peak and Pryor . If some one missed a shot early they seemed to hesitate the rest of the game and always defer to Peak and Pryor. That agressiveness this year is what leads to the balanced scoring. Pickett seemed a little lost last night, but I think that is just a freshman, who is used to being able to dominate his opponents, just learning how to work through a little adversity. He was clearly frustrated last night, but I think he will be OK and be a key player for the Hoyas as the year wears on.
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Nov 29, 2017 9:24:42 GMT -5
I think people are looking at this game far too negatively. It's hard to keep the intensity full throttle against a team that doesn't have the talent to hang with you. I thought it was good that whenever Maine brought the score back towards single digits, we immediately went on runs to push it back to 18-20 point cushion. Ewing used timeouts well. I thought Blair and Kaleb were excellent. And with a few exceptions (to be expected for our team) we handled the press fine. We clearly need to work on defense but we have some good talent and can be quite competitive in the big east with more development. I didn't think that would be the case heading into the season.
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Post by bamahoya11 on Nov 29, 2017 9:34:20 GMT -5
Last night was my first chance to sit down for an evening and watch Georgetown play. I was traveling the first two weeks of the season and missed all of the games. With the caveat that I think it's literally impossible to tell much about overall competitiveness in games like this, I'll note my observations:
On the positive side, I like the overall energy of this team. They're not always going to play smart, but they seemed to want to win. They also seemed to play more cohesively on the court than in recent years, willing to get and keep teammates involved, even if they often made mistakes. Weird as it is to say about a Georgetown team, I thought we looked better in transition than in the half court. We often had good looks or good spacing on the run, and when we couldn't capitalize it was due to a mistake on our end more than anything. Thus, I was generally pleased with Ewing's overall scheme. The half court did get bogged down at times, but hopefully we can adjust.
The development of Johnson and Mulmore impressed me. I really liked Mulmore's aggression on the run coupled with his ability to get others involved. I think he's made major strides from last year. Similarly, Johnson seems more comfortable taking shots, and he's finally making some. I also think Pickett and Blair are pieces we can build around long term.
On the negative side, we are shallow inside. Really shallow. Basically if Derrickson or Govan go out, we have to go small and the question is how small. We will need them to give us 35+ of consistent play in most Big East games to be competitive. It's hard to know if they can do that watching them now against under-sized competition.
Also, I thought we fouled less than last year but the defense was uninspiring. We benefitted far more from their offensive struggles than anything we actually did.
All in all, though, glad the team keeps winning the games on their schedule. On to the next.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Nov 29, 2017 10:42:33 GMT -5
That game was horrible to watch. I am not sure what is better. Beating teams when you know you would lose to hundreds of decent college squads with that level of effort and execution or just getting a hollow W? Until we seem someone who can bang inside with Jessie & MD, it is going to be hard to know what we have. I don't see the next three games really doing anything to test that. Cuse will be the first & only measuring stick for this team and I think the players realize that and phoned it in a bit.
A Tuesday night 8:30 tip was pretty tough for the crowd. I am guessing we were close to 2000 butts in the seats. The girls in front of me got on the big screen three times and it was either the camera man being fixated or the fact that there were very few energetic options in the crowd. In addition to the guaranteed money we paid Maine, that had to be a big red ink night for the program.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Nov 29, 2017 11:11:42 GMT -5
That game was horrible to watch. I am not sure what is better. Beating teams when you know you would lose to hundreds of decent college squads with that level of effort and execution or just getting a hollow W? Until we seem someone who can bang inside with Jessie & MD, it is going to be hard to know what we have. I don't see the next three games really doing anything to test that. Cuse will be the first & only measuring stick for this team and I think the players realize that and phoned it in a bit. A Tuesday night 8:30 tip was pretty tough for the crowd. I am guessing we were close to 2000 butts in the seats. The girls in front of me got on the big screen three times and it was either the camera man being fixated or the fact that there were very few energetic options in the crowd. In addition to the guaranteed money we paid Maine, that had to be a big red ink night for the program. The late tip on a Tuesday night against a cupcake was definitely rough on attendance. Though I will say that I was impressed with the student turnout. It wasn't amazing, but more than I expected given the game time and opponent. Also, pretty sure we're in the same section since the girls behind me were on the big screen a lot. |
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Post by LCPolo18 on Nov 29, 2017 11:12:24 GMT -5
Was surprised not to see Walker...was he there/dressed out? Any word on him? Hope its not an injury or "doghouse"... Pretty sure it was reported that he has strep throat. |
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Post by drquigley on Nov 29, 2017 11:38:28 GMT -5
What bothered me about last night's game was the total lack of enthusiasm and effort by the Hoyas in the second half. PE saw it too and was, according to the TV announcers, yelling at them to "Wake Up". I hate to say this but maybe we are suffering a sugar crash after all these cupcakes. Get the feeling that a game against a quality team right now would get their energy and intensity level up to where it needs to be for BE play. Definitely sleep walked through the second half.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2017 11:47:49 GMT -5
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 29, 2017 11:49:29 GMT -5
Like others, I thought the team played terribly. The biggest negatives: - The defensive rotations were non-existent. Beat one guy and the ballhandler is at the rim. Some of this is lack of effort, but it also seemed that players either didn't know what to do or were told not to help. If it is the latter, we may be in a bit of trouble, because if our guards can't keep Maine in front of them, what's going to happen with Villanova?
- While in all previous games the offense looked like it had a plan, with movement, screens, etc., for much of the game today it simply broke down into lazy play and standing around, hoping a player can do something on their own. Again, it's likely just effort, but it is disappointing.
- Maine had a pathetic press, but it still gave us problems. We are not a team of strong ballhandlers or good decision-makers. It could get ugly at times.
Things to like: - Kaleb keeps rolling. I hope he maintains his confidence against better teams.
- I'm enjoying Jahvon Blair's game. He's not overly flashy, but he's got a nose for scoring. He's been sneaky good on offense for a freshmen. Where Pickett has shown flashes but largely been a negative, Blair has shot fairly well and committed very few turnovers despite using a lot of possessions. He's grabbed a decent amount of offensive boards. He's making his FTs and has a nice shot. And he's basically tied with Mosely for second on the team in assist rate. The competition hasn't been great, but he's done a bunch of stuff pretty well.
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 29, 2017 11:59:56 GMT -5
What bothered me about last night's game was the total lack of enthusiasm and effort by the Hoyas in the second half. PE saw it too and was, according to the TV announcers, yelling at them to "Wake Up". I hate to say this but maybe we are suffering a sugar crash after all these cupcakes. Get the feeling that a game against a quality team right now would get their energy and intensity level up to where it needs to be for BE play. Definitely sleep walked through the second half. How quickly you forget.. haha!! |
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Nov 29, 2017 12:07:09 GMT -5
Best case for Blair is that he winds up like a Roosevelt Jones on recent Butler teams, putting up way more points than you'd think with a lot of scoops and floaters. If he adds a consistent 3-point shot, that's a solid asset for the team.
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Post by bostonfan on Nov 29, 2017 12:22:55 GMT -5
Best case for Blair is that he winds up like a Roosevelt Jones on recent Butler teams, putting up way more points than you'd think with a lot of scoops and floaters. If he adds a consistent 3-point shot, that's a solid asset for the team. I really like Blair so far and think he has been the most consistent freshman. I think Pickett has more upside, but Blair just knows how to get buckets. I think he has a really smooth looking shot and he is not afraid of the moment. He may force it occasionally but most of his shots are a function of him being aggressive and good shots. I can see him growing into a really good player for the Hoyas over the next few years. |
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Post by bigskyhoya on Nov 29, 2017 12:25:52 GMT -5
What bothered me about last night's game was the total lack of enthusiasm and effort by the Hoyas in the second half. PE saw it too and was, according to the TV announcers, yelling at them to "Wake Up". I hate to say this but maybe we are suffering a sugar crash after all these cupcakes. Get the feeling that a game against a quality team right now would get their energy and intensity level up to where it needs to be for BE play. Definitely sleep walked through the second half. How quickly you forget.. haha!! Yes! Baby steps. If we can’t yet handle Maine’s press where is the logic in thinking we would benefit now from facing a more skilled team? |
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Post by Cambridge on Nov 29, 2017 12:52:23 GMT -5
Mosley and his missed dunks... bad habits I don't think I've ever seen him finish those rim rattling attempts. But he gets close everytime. It's not a georgetown game, unless Mosley attempts (and misses) a jawdropping dunk. |
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 29, 2017 13:17:52 GMT -5
Thing I like most about Blair is his ability to create his own shots. He can drive or take a step back three. Spacing is key.
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