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Post by HometownHoya on Nov 29, 2016 0:23:01 GMT -5
I think they all are at this point. Would you bet your house on our winning a game like this as you may have a decade ago if there was something in it for you to win albeit less than your house with the odds? You wouldn't because every game we play is an unknown. I know nothing about either team but I'd bet we had a better line in the Arkansas St. game than this one. I'd bet my house on this game, yes. But, then again, I'm not the brightest dude going and don't have kids to worry about. But I wouldn't bet the spread. He's already admitted to not watching the game for which he is currently in the discussion thread. Additionally, he says he hasn't looked at a betting line or knows a single thing about our next opponent (a simple search away). I'm surprised he knows the actual players names since all he can mention is JT3. I think you'll easily win the brightness contest of this bet.
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Post by eagle54 on Nov 29, 2016 0:23:45 GMT -5
I think they all are at this point. Would you bet your house on our winning a game like this as you may have a decade ago if there was something in it for you to win albeit less than your house with the odds? You wouldn't because every game we play is an unknown. I know nothing about either team but I'd bet we had a better line in the Arkansas St. game than this one. I'd bet my house on this game, yes. But, then again, I'm not the brightest dude going and don't have kids to worry about. But I wouldn't bet the spread. Your house to my $100? If I bet you that on opponents like this you'd likely win a few hundred and then lose your house and would have already lost on Arkansas State. It's just what we do and now I think it's in our heads as a coaching staff, team and fanbase.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Nov 29, 2016 0:24:34 GMT -5
I don't agree with the bag on head approach in college sports but holding signs voicing opinions should be allowed if it's at the school and coach who are adults and being paid to do this. The only issue you have with the attention being paid to this is you may get more people showing up doing the same next game. It's scary when we I have to honestly say we are playing Coppin State next game and I'd call it a 50/50 game. If you're offering 1-1 odds on Georgetown winning against Coppin State, that's a bet I and a lot of other people here would take. Coppin State is the worst shooting Division I team and lost to a Division II team (Chestnut Hill) tonight. I totally understand that we are not playing well at the moment, but we will beat Coppin State.
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Post by tashoya on Nov 29, 2016 0:27:16 GMT -5
I'd bet my house on this game, yes. But, then again, I'm not the brightest dude going and don't have kids to worry about. But I wouldn't bet the spread. Your house to my $100? If I bet you that on opponents like this you'd likely win a few hundred and then lose your house and would have already lost on Arkansas State. It's just what we do and now I think it's in our heads as a coaching staff, team and fanbase. My house to your $100 is a very different bet, is it not? I wouldn't take that bet if Georgetown were playing my local middle school's team.
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Post by eagle54 on Nov 29, 2016 0:31:40 GMT -5
I don't agree with the bag on head approach in college sports but holding signs voicing opinions should be allowed if it's at the school and coach who are adults and being paid to do this. The only issue you have with the attention being paid to this is you may get more people showing up doing the same next game. It's scary when we I have to honestly say we are playing Coppin State next game and I'd call it a 50/50 game. If you're offering 1-1 odds on Georgetown winning against Coppin State, that's a bet I and a lot of other people here would take. Coppin State is the worst shooting Division I team and lost to a Division II team (Chestnut Hill) tonight. I totally understand that we are not playing well at the moment, but we will beat Coppin State. I wasn't offering 1 - 1 as I wouldn't need to. But based on the odds in these I'd keep betting against us as if I hit on the few we lose every year it would far outweigh what we win. We are not automatic in these and further from that are embarrassingly bad over last year and this season. Did you have the same confidence against Ark. St. in our on campus gym. All I heard on that was they hadn't beat a D-1 team in how long?
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Post by eagle54 on Nov 29, 2016 0:36:05 GMT -5
Your house to my $100? If I bet you that on opponents like this you'd likely win a few hundred and then lose your house and would have already lost on Arkansas State. It's just what we do and now I think it's in our heads as a coaching staff, team and fanbase. My house to your $100 is a very different bet, is it not? I wouldn't take that bet if Georgetown were playing my local middle school's team. I'll find the money line and see where that sits. With our team's performance I'm sure that is factored in so yes the odds wouldn't be that bad.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Nov 29, 2016 0:36:40 GMT -5
I wasn't offering 1 - 1 as I wouldn't need to. But based on the odds in these I'd keep betting against us as if I hit on the few we lose every year it would far outweigh what we win. We are not automatic in these and further from that are embarrassingly bad over last year and this season. Did you have the same confidence against Ark. St. in our on campus gym. All I heard on that was they hadn't beat a D-1 team in how long? On KenPom.com, Arkansas State is 195, whereas Coppin State is 338 (out of 351). Coppin State is the worst shooting team in Division I, and they just lost to a Division II team. So yes, I am a lot more confident we will beat them than Arkansas State. For what it's worth, after beating us, Arkansas State has defeated 4 Division 1 teams: Army (305), Chattanooga (93), SIU Edwardsville (299), and Lehigh (105). And while Arkansas State did finish 2015 on a losing streak, they last beat a Division I team on February 4 of last year. So I am not sure what you're referencing. All this said, our loss to Arkansas State was unacceptable. I am just saying Coppin State is much worse.
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Post by eagle54 on Nov 29, 2016 0:44:05 GMT -5
I wasn't offering 1 - 1 as I wouldn't need to. But based on the odds in these I'd keep betting against us as if I hit on the few we lose every year it would far outweigh what we win. We are not automatic in these and further from that are embarrassingly bad over last year and this season. Did you have the same confidence against Ark. St. in our on campus gym. All I heard on that was they hadn't beat a D-1 team in how long? On KenPom.com, Arkansas State is 195, whereas Coppin State is 338 (out of 351). Coppin State is the worst shooting team in Division I, and they just lost to a Division II team. So yes, I am a lot more confident we will beat them than Arkansas State. For what it's worth, after beating us, Arkansas State has defeated 4 Division 1 teams: Army (305), Chattanooga (93), SIU Edwardsville (299), and Lehigh (105). And while Arkansas State did finish 2015 on a losing streak, they last beat a Division I team on February 4 of last year. So I am not sure what you're referencing. All this said, our loss to Arkansas State was unacceptable. I am just saying Coppin State is much worse. It's funny we are having this conversation. That's very telling of the state of this program.
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Post by HometownHoya on Nov 29, 2016 0:45:34 GMT -5
On KenPom.com, Arkansas State is 195, whereas Coppin State is 338 (out of 351). Coppin State is the worst shooting team in Division I, and they just lost to a Division II team. So yes, I am a lot more confident we will beat them than Arkansas State. For what it's worth, after beating us, Arkansas State has defeated 4 Division 1 teams: Army (305), Chattanooga (93), SIU Edwardsville (299), and Lehigh (105). And while Arkansas State did finish 2015 on a losing streak, they last beat a Division I team on February 4 of last year. So I am not sure what you're referencing. All this said, our loss to Arkansas State was unacceptable. I am just saying Coppin State is much worse. It's funny we are having this conversation. That's very telling of the state of this program. Or more like senile "fans" that don't pay attention to the play outside of final scores and warps conversations? Sure, funny.
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Post by eagle54 on Nov 29, 2016 0:53:55 GMT -5
It's funny we are having this conversation. That's very telling of the state of this program. Or more like senile "fans" that don't pay attention to the play outside of final scores and warps conversations? Sure, funny. You are embarrassing yourself with that. Feel free to post but really?
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Nov 29, 2016 1:00:14 GMT -5
It's funny we are having this conversation. That's very telling of the state of this program. Obviously, we shouldn't have lost to Arkansas State. But the only reason we are having this discussion is because you said Coppin State was a 50-50 game, which is demonstrably wrong. That doesn't mean we will win, but I am certainly willing to bet it's more than 50% that we win.
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Post by eagle54 on Nov 29, 2016 1:07:04 GMT -5
It's funny we are having this conversation. That's very telling of the state of this program. Obviously, we shouldn't have lost to Arkansas State. But the only reason we are having this discussion is because you said Coppin State was a 50-50 game, which is demonstrably wrong. That doesn't mean we will win, but I am certainly willing to bet it's more than 50% that we win. But you are still nervous. You can't deny that with this team. That's my point. Were you nervous when we went into the Radford opener last year? Everyone here said it would be ok after that loss and we know how that ended. Just keep kicking the losses down the road as it will get better.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Nov 29, 2016 1:12:47 GMT -5
But you are still nervous. You can't deny that with this team. That's my point. Were you nervous when we went into the Radford opener last year? Everyone here said it would be ok after that loss and we know how that ended. Just keep kicking the losses down the road as it will get better. No, I'm really not nervous at all about Coppin State. But thanks for telling me what I think. I appreciate your clairvoyance.
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Post by GUJook97 on Nov 29, 2016 9:07:52 GMT -5
I wasn't offering 1 - 1 as I wouldn't need to. But based on the odds in these I'd keep betting against us as if I hit on the few we lose every year it would far outweigh what we win. We are not automatic in these and further from that are embarrassingly bad over last year and this season. Did you have the same confidence against Ark. St. in our on campus gym. All I heard on that was they hadn't beat a D-1 team in how long? On KenPom.com, Arkansas State is 195, whereas Coppin State is 338 (out of 351). Coppin State is the worst shooting team in Division I, and they just lost to a Division II team. So yes, I am a lot more confident we will beat them than Arkansas State. For what it's worth, after beating us, Arkansas State has defeated 4 Division 1 teams: Army (305), Chattanooga (93), SIU Edwardsville (299), and Lehigh (105). And while Arkansas State did finish 2015 on a losing streak, they last beat a Division I team on February 4 of last year. So I am not sure what you're referencing. All this said, our loss to Arkansas State was unacceptable. I am just saying Coppin State is much worse. To be fair, Arkansas St is looking like a not god awful team. It somewhat reasonable that they could end up in the 150-200 RPI range. That wouldnt register in the very bad loss column. Obviously, it's no excuse, but teams that lose games like that do still make the tourney. It's just that you can't lose 2-3 of them. Im still worried we will. And, yes, it's nowhere near the same as Coppin St, if only because there have been 8 games of Coppin St, and they are 0-8 and every bit as awful as advertised.
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