Tavares Hardy leaving for Georgia Tech

[EtomicB]

May 6, 2016 10:13:11 GMT -5 LCPolo18 said:

Here is Mike Schrage's Stanford bio, which also includes his time as DOBO at Duke under Coach K, as an admin at Mississippi under Barnes, and as a manager at Indiana under Knight.

www.gostanford.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=208165962

Off the board to Butler..

[95hoya]

I want someone a little more proven with recruiting connections. We need an uptick in recruiting.

[RBHoya]

Hoopdirt.com suggests we'll be hiring Akbar Waheed. Formerly of BC and spent last season with Hofstra.

hoopdirt.com/georgetown-dirt/

Edited to add: As far as the connection, one of the articles when he took the BC gig mentioned

"A native of Washington, D.C., Waheed played high school basketball at Gonzaga High."

[EtomicB]

May 14, 2016 10:03:04 GMT -5 RBHoya said:

Hoopdirt.com suggests we'll be hiring Akbar Waheed. Formerly of BC and spent last season with Hofstra.

hoopdirt.com/georgetown-dirt/

Edited to add: As far as the connection, one of the articles when he took the BC gig mentioned

"A native of Washington, D.C., Waheed played high school basketball at Gonzaga High."

[njhoya78]

Well, it's a name. Beyond that, we probably collectively know virtually nothing about him, aside from what we are reading today on the internet.

[tonyparker]

Great hire, if true. DC guy, Gonzaga guy. Lot of charisma.

[HoyaSinceBirth]

Was a scout for the Oklahoma Thunder too. Landed Hanlan and Reggie Jackson at BC from what I've read. Sounds like a good recruiter.

[trillesthoya]

May 14, 2016 11:26:52 GMT -5 tonyparker said:

Great hire, if true. DC guy, Gonzaga guy. Lot of charisma.

Hoyas4ever must be crying tears of joy

[Hoyas4Ever]

May 14, 2016 12:23:22 GMT -5 trillesthoya said:

May 14, 2016 11:26:52 GMT -5 tonyparker said:

Great hire, if true. DC guy, Gonzaga guy. Lot of charisma.

Hoyas4ever must be crying tears of joy

 I like the hire by JT3 a lot not only for the fact of that Akbar Waheed is Gonzaga grad like JT3 and that hopefully is a positive with Chris Lykes and other Gonzaga players but also he is well connected in the DMV which is loaded with the talent in the next 3-4 classes. 

Akbar Waheed to Hofstra

"He is someone who communicates, interacts and collaborates as well as anyone I’ve worked with. He is extremely good on the floor and his contacts in the District of Columbia, Maryland and Virginia areas will be very beneficial to us on the recruiting front."

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Good recruiter... good hire

[professorhoya]

I lyke it alot.

[CaliHoya]

Any examples of who he has recruited??

[dreamhoya]

May 14, 2016 18:40:54 GMT -5 CaliHoya said:

Any examples of who he has recruited??

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Was a scout for the Oklahoma Thunder too. Landed Hanlan and Reggie Jackson at BC from what I've read. Sounds like a good recruiter.

[EtomicB]

May 14, 2016 11:48:51 GMT -5 HoyaSinceBirth said:

Was a scout for the Oklahoma Thunder too. Landed Hanlan and Reggie Jackson at BC from what I've read. Sounds like a good recruiter.

From what I've read Waheed didn't land either of these players..

Jackson went to BC in '08 & the articles written about Hanlan's recruitment only mention Steve Donahue & Nat Graham as recruiters..

I also went thru BC's roster from 2010-14 & didn't notice many DMV kids names during his tenure, I've attached an article detailing BC's recruiting during the Donahue era..

Underwhelming for sure..

recruitne.blogspot.com/2013/06/steve-donahues-recruiting-history-at.html


In retrospect the program may have been better off giving Hunter a raise 3 years ago, he's doing a nice job at Nebraska..

The 2018 & 19 classes are going to be very very very crucial so I hope JT3 has made solid additions, the program can't afford another 3 year experiment..

[beenaround]

May 17, 2016 6:52:12 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

May 14, 2016 11:48:51 GMT -5 HoyaSinceBirth said:

Was a scout for the Oklahoma Thunder too. Landed Hanlan and Reggie Jackson at BC from what I've read. Sounds like a good recruiter.

From what I've read Waheed didn't land either of these players..

Jackson went to BC in '08 & the articles written about Hanlan's recruitment only mention Steve Donahue & Nat Graham as recruiters..

I also went thru BC's roster from 2010-14 & didn't notice many DMV kids names during his tenure, I've attached an article detailing BC's recruiting during the Donahue era..

Underwhelming for sure..

recruitne.blogspot.com/2013/06/steve-donahues-recruiting-history-at.html


In retrospect the program may have been better off giving Hunter a raise 3 years ago, he's doing a nice job at Nebraska..

The 2018 & 19 classes are going to be very very very crucial so I hope JT3 has made solid additions, the program can't afford another 3 year experiment..

Yup. I didn't want to sound negative about a new coach that I know absolutely nothing about...but the body of work...the resume..didn't give me any reason to be excited about this hire. Agree that the next year or two on the recruiting trail are vital.

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May 17, 2016 6:52:12 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

May 14, 2016 11:48:51 GMT -5 HoyaSinceBirth said:

Was a scout for the Oklahoma Thunder too. Landed Hanlan and Reggie Jackson at BC from what I've read. Sounds like a good recruiter.

From what I've read Waheed didn't land either of these players..

Jackson went to BC in '08 & the articles written about Hanlan's recruitment only mention Steve Donahue & Nat Graham ar recruiters..

I also went thru BC's roster from 2010 & didn't notice many DMV kids names during his tenure, I've attached an article detailing BC's recruiting during the Donahue era.. Underwhelming for sure..

recruitne.blogspot.com/2013/06/steve-donahues-recruiting-history-at.html


In retrospect the program may have been better off giving Hunter a raise 3 years ago, he's doing a nice job at Nebraska..

The 2018 & 19 classes are going to be very very very crucial so I hope JT3 has made solid additions, the program can't afford another 3 year experiment..

Hard to say this considering he hasn't even started yet imo.... I don't think his recruiting at Nebraska has been all that impressive but maybe I'm missing something? Was not impressed with his recruiting here but others may see it differently

The reality is nobody has been able to recruit to BC and it's a lot easier to recruit DMV kids to Georgetown than a BC program that's been in the toilet for a decade www.bcinterruption.com/2011/10/18/2497242/2011-12-boston-college-basketball-preview-roster. Waheed who was listed as recruiting director at Niagara did build a nice pipeline there during his time they went from 15-13 his first season to their first NCAA appearance since Calvin Murphy was there.

They had a nice stretch of 2 Nit's 2 Ncaa appearances in 6 years before he left for BC. The year before he left they had the most wins in school History (26). The HC Mihalich has said he played a major part in recruiting and developing those kids as well as "recruiting director" and lead assistant.

Reactions from trainers, and AAU Programs etc has been very positive from what I've seen.. He actually comes in with a more solid resume than Both Hunter and Hardy. Hunter was a Dobo at NCState for 4 years so he recruited nobody there. His last year on the trail was 99 at Duquense before he got to Gtown. Hardy didn't land any big fish at Northwestern from what I've see he has gotten credit for developing some players though. His best season there they won 20 games...

[HoyaSinceBirth]

May 17, 2016 6:52:12 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

May 14, 2016 11:48:51 GMT -5 HoyaSinceBirth said:

Was a scout for the Oklahoma Thunder too. Landed Hanlan and Reggie Jackson at BC from what I've read. Sounds like a good recruiter.

From what I've read Waheed didn't land either of these players..

Jackson went to BC in '08 & the articles written about Hanlan's recruitment only mention Steve Donahue & Nat Graham as recruiters..

I also went thru BC's roster from 2010-14 & didn't notice many DMV kids names during his tenure, I've attached an article detailing BC's recruiting during the Donahue era..

Underwhelming for sure..

recruitne.blogspot.com/2013/06/steve-donahues-recruiting-history-at.html


In retrospect the program may have been better off giving Hunter a raise 3 years ago, he's doing a nice job at Nebraska..

The 2018 & 19 classes are going to be very very very crucial so I hope JT3 has made solid additions, the program can't afford another 3 year experiment..

Just reporting what it says in his profile from Hofstra: " A skilled recruiter and strong developer of talent, Waheed helped recruit and develop a multitude of players that have gone on to the professional ranks including most recently Olivier Hanlan (Utah Jazz) and Reggie Jackson (Oklahoma City Thunder)."

But I suppose he could've just developed those players based on the quote rather than recruit them but it implies he at least helped recruit them.

[EtomicB]

May 17, 2016 8:12:54 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

May 17, 2016 6:52:12 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

From what I've read Waheed didn't land either of these players..

Jackson went to BC in '08 & the articles written about Hanlan's recruitment only mention Steve Donahue & Nat Graham ar recruiters..

I also went thru BC's roster from 2010 & didn't notice many DMV kids names during his tenure, I've attached an article detailing BC's recruiting during the Donahue era.. Underwhelming for sure..

recruitne.blogspot.com/2013/06/steve-donahues-recruiting-history-at.html


In retrospect the program may have been better off giving Hunter a raise 3 years ago, he's doing a nice job at Nebraska..

The 2018 & 19 classes are going to be very very very crucial so I hope JT3 has made solid additions, the program can't afford another 3 year experiment..

Hard to say this considering he hasn't even started yet imo.... I don't think his recruiting at Nebraska has been all that impressive but maybe I'm missing something? Was not impressed with his recruiting here but others may see it differently

The reality is nobody has been able to recruit to BC and it's a lot easier to recruit DMV kids to Georgetown than a BC program that's been in the toilet for a decade www.bcinterruption.com/2011/10/18/2497242/2011-12-boston-college-basketball-preview-roster. Waheed who was listed as recruiting director at Niagara did build a nice pipeline there during his time they went from 15-13 his first season to their first NCAA appearance since Calvin Murphy was there.

They had a nice stretch of 2 Nit's 2 Ncaa appearances in 6 years before he left for BC. The year before he left they had the most wins in school History (26). The HC Mihalich has said he played a major part in recruiting and developing those kids as well as "recruiting director" and lead assistant.

Reactions from trainers, and AAU Programs etc has been very positive from what I've seen.. He actually comes in with a more solid resume than Both Hunter and Hardy. Hunter was a Dobo at NCState for 4 years so he recruited nobody there. His last year on the trail was 99 at Duquense before he got to Gtown. Hardy didn't land any big fish at Northwestern from what I've see he has gotten credit for developing some players though. His best season there they won 20 games...

My reference to Hunter was much more about Hardy & Sutton( mainly Sutton since he replaced him) than it was about Waheed..

Many other posters shared your feelings on Hunter Yaboy but I always thought he was pretty good here..

It must be said that if offers would have been made to a couple of other kids he recruited during his time here, his record would have been even better..

@ Nebraska he's pulled in a 4* pg in Watson(Chicago kid), Andrew White from Kansas, James Palmer from Miami.. Saw a report about a 3* 6-10 center choosing Nebraska I've Minnesota & UNLV the other day as well..

There can't be any debate that he's been much better there over the last 3 years than Hardy or Sutton were at G'town in that time period..

As far as Waheed goes his time @ BC is more relevant in my view because it's a higher level of ball than Niagra.. I get that he's not going to get the cream of the crop from the DMV to go to BC but you'd think he'd be able to get some less regarded kids to take the chance right? After all it's still the ACC..

Hey, I hope it works out great, I hope to look back 5 years from now and say what a hire but as it stands now it's way to early to say IMO..

[hoyaboya]

Underwhelmed by this guy's resume (Steve Donahue coaching tree - not a guy I'd want to be associated with), but I assume the Gonzaga connections will help secure Lykes and/or Hubb. I also think it can't be easy for JT3 to bring in a really good new assistant given Georgetown's underwhelming results of the last few years, at least unless the Hoyas are offering a pile of money. Hopefully the next assistant hired will be more impressive.

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May 17, 2016 10:20:57 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

May 17, 2016 8:12:54 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

Hard to say this considering he hasn't even started yet imo.... I don't think his recruiting at Nebraska has been all that impressive but maybe I'm missing something? Was not impressed with his recruiting here but others may see it differently

The reality is nobody has been able to recruit to BC and it's a lot easier to recruit DMV kids to Georgetown than a BC program that's been in the toilet for a decade www.bcinterruption.com/2011/10/18/2497242/2011-12-boston-college-basketball-preview-roster. Waheed who was listed as recruiting director at Niagara did build a nice pipeline there during his time they went from 15-13 his first season to their first NCAA appearance since Calvin Murphy was there.

They had a nice stretch of 2 Nit's 2 Ncaa appearances in 6 years before he left for BC. The year before he left they had the most wins in school History (26). The HC Mihalich has said he played a major part in recruiting and developing those kids as well as "recruiting director" and lead assistant.

Reactions from trainers, and AAU Programs etc has been very positive from what I've seen.. He actually comes in with a more solid resume than Both Hunter and Hardy. Hunter was a Dobo at NCState for 4 years so he recruited nobody there. His last year on the trail was 99 at Duquense before he got to Gtown. Hardy didn't land any big fish at Northwestern from what I've see he has gotten credit for developing some players though. His best season there they won 20 games...

My reference to Hunter was much more about Hardy & Sutton( mainly Sutton since he replaced him) than it was about Waheed.. Many other posters shared your feelings on Hunter Yaboy but I always thought he was pretty good here and if offers came for a couple of other kids during his time here would have been even better..

@ Nebraska he's pulled in a 4* pg in Watson(Chicago kid), Andrew White from Kansas, James Palmer from Miami.. Saw a report about a 6-10 center choosing Nebraska the other day as well..

There can't be any debate that he's been much better there than Hardy or Sutton were at G'town..

As far as Waheed goes his time @ BC is more relevant in my view because it's a higher level of ball than Niagra.. I get that he's not going to get the cream of the crop from the DMV to go to BC but you'd think he'd be able to get some less regarded kids to take the chance right? After all it's still the ACC..

Hey, I hope it works out great, I hope to look back 5 years from now and say what a hire but as it stands now it's way to early to say IMO..

The most impactful of those kids White, Hunter recruited in HS and didn't land him here so imo It's hard to compare because you have different factors to consider. A couple of those being scholarships PT etc... Also I think it's debatable with Hardy somewhat but even if it's edge Hunter I wasn't really happy with Hardy's pull so why would I be happy with a little bit better than Hardy. While it's certainly premature to judge him on it Nebraska's records since he's been there 19-13 13-18 16-18 No NCAA'a

Yeah but it's still BC. Kids want to win or at least play in front of slightly more than 1,000 fans lol. You posted an article about how poor BC's recruiting was, how does him getting less regarded kids from the DMV change the context of that article? I get the overall concern though and I 2 would like to have seen more success there, but it's hard to make the sale when the product is that poor also.

Imo It's always too early to tell no matter who the hire is... Whoever the guy is has to get to work, but he seems well liked and he's known in the regions Gtown recruits best in the DMV and upper east so that's a positive.

A lot of these things come down to your POV. I look at Niagara as a plus because there's more skill development and evaluation done by coaches to be successful at that level. There's no list to identify players, you have to depend on your own evaluations and find those diamond in the rough types. Once guys get there you have to develop the talent in order to be successful, and without the bells and whistles of your typical HM. I also like the fact he has some Princeton Background but majority of his coaching experience was in other more guard orientated systems.