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Post by EtomicB on May 6, 2016 11:40:14 GMT -5
I hear you Yaboy but it seems deeper than that, IMO JT3 values KB's input much more than he does other coaches.. That's not a bad thing btw, he should run point on all highly coveted recruits but the other guys should've had more input on the 2ndary kids.. From what I've read Smart didn't want to lose Jai Lucas & by extension his Pops to Dixon/TCU.. It's reported that Lucas is very well liked in Texas recruiting circles especially Houston which has become a hotbed for talent so Lucas went from dobo to 3rd asst. over Morrell.. Nothing to lose making an inquiry to him, it'd be completely outside of the box the program is in now.. Is this just a perception you have or is their some type of tangible evidence to back this up? Texas has deep pockets so he might be getting a nice check to stay at home but definitely worth an inquiry... Definitely perception Yaboy.. |
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 6, 2016 11:42:29 GMT -5
A recent trend seems to be hiring head coaches from low/mid majors to be assistant coaches. Seems like a good way to get an assistant who is good at teaching and recruiting.
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Post by professorhoya on May 6, 2016 12:31:27 GMT -5
1st call should go to Jaren Sr. Absolute no brainer. not sure how i feel about offering him a position if it is solely or mostly due to the fact that it would improve our chances of getting his son. seems like a slippery slope. I could see Maryland doing the same since Turgeon comes from the calipri-Larry brown (Danny manning line). I don't see what the problem is unless you think jaren Jackson is not qualified to coach. |
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Post by hoyaboya on May 6, 2016 12:39:55 GMT -5
not sure how i feel about offering him a position if it is solely or mostly due to the fact that it would improve our chances of getting his son. seems like a slippery slope. I could see Maryland doing the same since Turgeon comes from the calipri-Larry brown (Danny manning line). I don't see what the problem is unless you think jaren Jackson is not qualified to coach.My view is Jackson is definitely qualified. I wouldn't have a problem with hiring Jaren so long as PE Jr. doesn't get the other full-time gig. I do think it would send the wrong message to have JT3, Jaren and PE Jr. on the same sideline. Would be very easy to recruit against for anybody targeting top players outside the Georgetown "family". |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 12:49:19 GMT -5
I could see Maryland doing the same since Turgeon comes from the calipri-Larry brown (Danny manning line). I don't see what the problem is unless you think jaren Jackson is not qualified to coach.My view is Jackson is definitely qualified. I wouldn't have a problem with hiring Jaren so long as PE Jr. doesn't get the other full-time gig. I do think it would send the wrong message to have JT3, Jaren and PE Jr. on the same sideline. Would be very easy to recruit against for anybody targeting top players outside the Georgetown "family". Why do you believe that to be the case HB The negative recruiting angle?... |
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on May 6, 2016 13:37:25 GMT -5
1st call should go to Jaren Sr. Absolute no brainer. not sure how i feel about offering him a position if it is solely or mostly due to the fact that it would improve our chances of getting his son. seems like a slippery slope. I want Jaren Sr because i think he would be a great addition to the staff. If Jaren Jr comes along, even better. Jaren Sr checks every box for something I would look for in an assistant. Ex NBA player. College coaching experience, at Georgetown no less. Excellent defensive player who stayed in the NBA because of defense. Pro coaching experience. Coach Pop disciple so he gives us a different x's and o's look. And he's an alum. Absolute no brainer in my mind. |
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Post by goyahoya69 on May 6, 2016 15:42:27 GMT -5
not sure how i feel about offering him a position if it is solely or mostly due to the fact that it would improve our chances of getting his son. seems like a slippery slope. I want Jaren Sr because i think he would be a great addition to the staff. If Jaren Jr comes along, even better. Jaren Sr checks every box for something I would look for in an assistant. Ex NBA player. College coaching experience, at Georgetown no less. Excellent defensive player who stayed in the NBA because of defense. Pro coaching experience. Coach Pop disciple so he gives us a different x's and o's look. And he's an alum. Absolute no brainer in my mind. i didn't know of all his extensive coaching experience until yaboy mentioned it. that's all great, and i would always welcome a former hoya to our staff. just to play devil's advocate: if cuse, nova, or some other rival school hired a coach who is an alum and whose son was a borderline 5-star kid, especially when the coach has had much coaching experience and could've been justifiably hired in the past, it would make me go "howwww convenientttttt." and i would think many posters here would feel the same. i just wouldn't want that kind of talk surrounding our program. doesn't seem very georgetown-y. ideally, JJJ would come to gtown because he wanted to come to gtown, and his dad would follow him. not the other way around. |
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Post by professorhoya on May 6, 2016 16:34:22 GMT -5
I want Jaren Sr because i think he would be a great addition to the staff. If Jaren Jr comes along, even better. Jaren Sr checks every box for something I would look for in an assistant. Ex NBA player. College coaching experience, at Georgetown no less. Excellent defensive player who stayed in the NBA because of defense. Pro coaching experience. Coach Pop disciple so he gives us a different x's and o's look. And he's an alum. Absolute no brainer in my mind. i didn't know of all his extensive coaching experience until yaboy mentioned it. that's all great, and i would always welcome a former hoya to our staff. just to play devil's advocate: if cuse, nova, or some other rival school hired a coach who is an alum and whose son was a borderline 5-star kid, especially when the coach has had much coaching experience and could've been justifiably hired in the past, it would make me go "howwww convenientttttt." and i would think many posters here would feel the same. i just wouldn't want that kind of talk surrounding our program. doesn't seem very georgetown-y. ideally, JJJ would come to gtown because he wanted to come to gtown, and his dad would follow him. not the other way around. To be fair there is a huge connection to Georgetown. That is different from Larry brown hiring Danny mannings dad during mannings senior season and then winning a national championship where there was zero connection IIRC between Ku, Larry brown and the mannings. |
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Post by trillesthoya on May 6, 2016 17:01:36 GMT -5
Very relevant to this discussion. Romar has hired Michael Porter's father. Similar to what DePaul did to get Billy Garret Jr.
Personally I'm of the opinion that even if we hire JJ Sr and JJ Jr doesn't come it's still a win for us. While I'd be very surprised if JJ Jr didn't come along with his father, JJ Sr seems to be a very capable coach and a great addition to any staff. No real downside to hiring him.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on May 6, 2016 17:13:27 GMT -5
i didn't know of all his extensive coaching experience until yaboy mentioned it. that's all great, and i would always welcome a former hoya to our staff. just to play devil's advocate: if cuse, nova, or some other rival school hired a coach who is an alum and whose son was a borderline 5-star kid, especially when the coach has had much coaching experience and could've been justifiably hired in the past, it would make me go "howwww convenientttttt." and i would think many posters here would feel the same. i just wouldn't want that kind of talk surrounding our program. doesn't seem very georgetown-y. ideally, JJJ would come to gtown because he wanted to come to gtown, and his dad would follow him. not the other way around. To be fair there is a huge connection to Georgetown. That is different from Larry brown hiring Danny mannings dad during mannings senior season and then winning a national championship where there was zero connection IIRC between Ku, Larry brown and the mannings. I agree. It's also distinguishable from the Isaiah Whitehead situation for the same reason - no previous connection. Regardless, we choose assistants who we believe can help the program. Let's say there was an assistant who was super-close with Jaren Jackson Jr., we hired that assistant, and then he came to the school. Would anybody have a quibble with that? Probably not. And, for all we know, even if Jackson was hired as an assistant, it doesn't necessarily mean Jackson Jr. would come here anyway (though it obviously increases the odds, one would think). |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 17:13:48 GMT -5
I want Jaren Sr because i think he would be a great addition to the staff. If Jaren Jr comes along, even better. Jaren Sr checks every box for something I would look for in an assistant. Ex NBA player. College coaching experience, at Georgetown no less. Excellent defensive player who stayed in the NBA because of defense. Pro coaching experience. Coach Pop disciple so he gives us a different x's and o's look. And he's an alum. Absolute no brainer in my mind. i didn't know of all his extensive coaching experience until yaboy mentioned it. that's all great, and i would always welcome a former hoya to our staff. just to play devil's advocate: if cuse, nova, or some other rival school hired a coach who is an alum and whose son was a borderline 5-star kid, especially when the coach has had much coaching experience and could've been justifiably hired in the past, it would make me go "howwww convenientttttt." and i would think many posters here would feel the same. i just wouldn't want that kind of talk surrounding our program. doesn't seem very georgetown-y. ideally, JJJ would come to gtown because he wanted to come to gtown, and his dad would follow him. not the other way around. His son is a great talent but in the classes after him, 18 and 19, you have to add at least 8-9 players. I doubt they would add him for any other reason than he's qualified to do the job. Whoever comes in better be prepared to put some serious work in.. |
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Post by dreamhoya on May 6, 2016 17:40:17 GMT -5
I could see Maryland doing the same since Turgeon comes from the calipri-Larry brown (Danny manning line). I don't see what the problem is unless you think jaren Jackson is not qualified to coach.My view is Jackson is definitely qualified. I wouldn't have a problem with hiring Jaren so long as PE Jr. doesn't get the other full-time gig. I do think it would send the wrong message to have JT3, Jaren and PE Jr. on the same sideline. Would be very easy to recruit against for anybody targeting top players outside the Georgetown "family". I'm not sure I agree with this. THey would certainly be a progressive staff. I like the energy Jaren brought when he was assistant here with Esherick. Aren't Duke's assistants all Dukies? |
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Post by SaxaCD on May 6, 2016 22:38:43 GMT -5
My view is Jackson is definitely qualified. I wouldn't have a problem with hiring Jaren so long as PE Jr. doesn't get the other full-time gig. I do think it would send the wrong message to have JT3, Jaren and PE Jr. on the same sideline. Would be very easy to recruit against for anybody targeting top players outside the Georgetown "family". I'm not sure I agree with this. THey would certainly be a progressive staff. I like the energy Jaren brought when he was assistant here with Esherick. Aren't Duke's assistants all Dukies? He was my favorite to succeed Esh, so I would be thrilled to see him back. I think this is all just 'what if' talk, though. Haven't seen any rumors that he is a candidate for assistant anywhere. |
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Post by eagle54 on May 6, 2016 22:48:31 GMT -5
Let's stop with the in house hiring and go get real coaches. I don't have a lot of faith in our head coach at this point and it seems like the only change that can happen is at the assistant ranks so we need to make sure they can do their jobs. However, with current HC and status quo I don't think there is much buzz that this would be a great landing spot for an assistant that has options.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 7, 2016 6:40:21 GMT -5
Let's stop with the in house hiring and go get real coaches. I don't have a lot of faith in our head coach at this point and it seems like the only change that can happen is at the assistant ranks so we need to make sure they can do their jobs. However, with current HC and status quo I don't think there is much buzz that this would be a great landing spot for an assistant that has options. Well if being an assistant at GU is such an undesirable job, the only possible hook we have would be to bring in an assistant with Georgetown history who would want to come back to his alma mater! |
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Post by njhoya78 on May 7, 2016 8:59:05 GMT -5
Let's stop with the in house hiring and go get real coaches. I don't have a lot of faith in our head coach at this point and it seems like the only change that can happen is at the assistant ranks so we need to make sure they can do their jobs. However, with current HC and status quo I don't think there is much buzz that this would be a great landing spot for an assistant that has options. Well if being an assistant at GU is such an undesirable job, the only possible hook we have would be to bring in an assistant with Georgetown history who would want to come back to his alma mater! It's not fair to start using logic on this forum. |
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Post by KHoyaNYC on May 7, 2016 9:56:33 GMT -5
Let's stop with the in house hiring and go get real coaches. I don't have a lot of faith in our head coach at this point and it seems like the only change that can happen is at the assistant ranks so we need to make sure they can do their jobs. However, with current HC and status quo I don't think there is much buzz that this would be a great landing spot for an assistant that has options. Why would someone "in house" not be a real coach? Happens all the time. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 7, 2016 13:30:12 GMT -5
Well if being an assistant at GU is such an undesirable job, the only possible hook we have would be to bring in an assistant with Georgetown history who would want to come back to his alma mater! It's not fair to start using logic on this forum. Sorry, I guess I am in off-season form, lost my focus. Won't happen again! |
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Post by eagle54 on May 7, 2016 21:30:17 GMT -5
It's not fair to start using logic on this forum. Sorry, I guess I am in off-season form, lost my focus. Won't happen again! Tighten your game up Frazier. C'mon man. It's going to be a long six months here. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 7, 2016 21:42:18 GMT -5
Sorry, I guess I am in off-season form, lost my focus. Won't happen again! Tighten your game up Frazier. C'mon man. It's going to be a long six months here. Not young enough any more to bring it for 12 months. Gotta save myself for November. |
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