richfame
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 3,266
|
Post by richfame on Jan 10, 2015 20:03:06 GMT -5
I wish Jabril, Peak, or Tre could initiate the offense during end of game situations it might give DSR a better chance of finding an open shot. One of the problems in this lineup is that we are playing with a bunch of shooting guards and no true point and we are underutilizing our best shooter by making him take the point guard responsibilities. That's why TRE has to start. Tre has proved to me that hes a capable player and will at least not kill us with mistakes. We need DSR to be an assassin!
|
|
bmartin
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,459
|
Post by bmartin on Jan 10, 2015 20:07:47 GMT -5
One key thing missing from our zone offense is a corner three threat.
|
|
richfame
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 3,266
|
Post by richfame on Jan 10, 2015 20:19:06 GMT -5
One key thing missing from our zone offense is a corner three threat. Not true! We have a sharp shooter in cameron. Ha ha
|
|
prhoya
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 23,532
|
Post by prhoya on Jan 10, 2015 21:22:01 GMT -5
Bad Hopkins
21 mins. 1 of 2 FGs 0 of 6 FTs 6 rbs 0 as 0 st 3 blks 3 TOs 4 PFs 2 pts
Put it behind you quickly, focus on the next game and practice your FTs.
|
|
|
Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 10, 2015 21:30:00 GMT -5
One key thing missing from our zone offense is a corner three threat. Tre has hit a couple. I think White may be able to hit it. Our perimeter shooters need to gain confidence. Quickly.
|
|
mapei
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,089
|
Post by mapei on Jan 10, 2015 22:29:02 GMT -5
Enough with the JTIII bashing. He knows how to beat a 2-3 zone but he needs the players to do it. Did we forget how we manhandled Syracuse when we had Otto Porter, Jeff Green, Austin Freeman? If anything, you can fault him for not recruiting the players he needs the last few years. I'm sure he thought Hop and Lubick would fill the bill and of course he had to think Otto and Whit would be around longer. Let's see if White or Peak can step up either by the end of this year o in the future. This. I hope I'm proven wrong, but I think that, based on this year's performance, we have a starting lineup of decent to very good sixth men. No stars, probably no one who would definitely start for a top 10 team. Last year's DSR certainly could, and in time I'm betting some of our freshmen can become that good. It may just be a rebuilding year. Opinion subject to change if DSR starts taking over games or some freshman breaks out for more than an isolated game.
|
|
|
Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jan 10, 2015 23:38:54 GMT -5
Hear ye! Hear ye. We will get better. We will improve. In the midst of losing today, I still saw improvement. I would say we are just a deadly 3-point shooter away from winning the BE conference.
However, I will say it again, we have to continue to shoot the threes. It's like someone misses one and we throw in the towel, become shy. I say if we can hoist them in practice, then we are capable of doing it in a real game. Our future is directly tied to us making them consistently. Just imagine what this would do for Josh.
|
|
beenaround
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 1,476
|
Post by beenaround on Jan 10, 2015 23:45:56 GMT -5
Hear ye! Hear ye. We will get better. We will improve. In the midst of losing today, I still saw improvement. I would say we are just a deadly 3-point shooter away from winning the BE conference. However, I will say it again, we have to continue to shoot the threes. It's like someone misses one and we throw in the towel, become shy. I say if we can hoist them in practice, then we are capable of doing it in a real game. Our future is directly tied to us making them consistently. Just imagine what this would do for Josh. Mr Graham...I want whatever you're smoking!!!!
|
|
|
Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jan 11, 2015 2:09:05 GMT -5
Hear ye! Hear ye. We will get better. We will improve. In the midst of losing today, I still saw improvement. I would say we are just a deadly 3-point shooter away from winning the BE conference. However, I will say it again, we have to continue to shoot the threes. It's like someone misses one and we throw in the towel, become shy. I say if we can hoist them in practice, then we are capable of doing it in a real game. Our future is directly tied to us making them consistently. Just imagine what this would do for Josh. Mr Graham...I want whatever you're smoking!!!! It's call FAITH (BELIEF). First learned about it's wonderful effect when I read in a book about it. It said: "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not yet seen!" (italics mine) Moving on. As I said earlier:- "The game was lost at the line. Georgetown was just 10-19 (52 percent) from the free throw line, where Mikael Hopkins missed all six of his second half attempts."
|
|
OldHoyafan
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 1,387
|
Post by OldHoyafan on Jan 11, 2015 2:30:04 GMT -5
The encouraging thing about the game today was White's willingness to tak the big shot and III's willingness to draw up plays for him, especially the last shot at end of regulation. The shots White took all looked good except one. They will eventually start to fall consistantly. He will be the next point-forward for the Hoyas. White's getting the ball at the top of the key with the option to pass shoot of drive seems to be the best option to combat a zone defense in this offense. This team lacks a leader that can carry it iwhen times get tight. Last year it was Markel and the year before that it was Otto. I thought DSR would be that leader, but he has not done this so far. Maybe White can become like the sophomore Otto Porter in his freshman year and lead this team but it's unlikely to happen this year. Although Copeland did not play a lot today he is getting his hands on a lot of offensive rebounds. He just does not have the strength to secure them tight now. When he does, I think he will be a force on the boards. I too, would have liked to have seen more Tre today. I think he could have hit some of those 3pt shots the zone was giving them.
|
|
|
Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jan 11, 2015 9:38:35 GMT -5
Better figure out how to beat a zone because that's all we will see the rest of the year. Extremely extremely frustrating. Complete missed opportunity
|
|
jwp91
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 6,213
|
Post by jwp91 on Jan 11, 2015 10:09:12 GMT -5
White is the key to busting a zone.....but why did he stop flashing to the top of the key? I hardly saw him make that cut at all in the 2nd half.
|
|
|
Post by HometownHoya on Jan 11, 2015 11:49:31 GMT -5
White is the key to busting a zone.....but why did he stop flashing to the top of the key? I hardly saw him make that cut at all in the 2nd half. They adjusted and JTIII preempted the adjustment. He probably didn't need to since their collapsing on White would have opened other things but live and learn.
|
|
|
Post by detmut on Jan 11, 2015 12:40:01 GMT -5
Hear ye! Hear ye. We will get better. We will improve. In the midst of losing today, I still saw improvement. I would say we are just a deadly 3-point shooter away from winning the BE conference. However, I will say it again, we have to continue to shoot the threes. It's like someone misses one and we throw in the towel, become shy. I say if we can hoist them in practice, then we are capable of doing it in a real game. Our future is directly tied to us making them consistently. Just imagine what this would do for Josh. John "Pops" Thompson once said David Wingate could miss 20 shots in a row and blame the basketball.
|
|
|
Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jan 11, 2015 13:23:05 GMT -5
Hear ye! Hear ye. We will get better. We will improve. In the midst of losing today, I still saw improvement. I would say we are just a deadly 3-point shooter away from winning the BE conference. However, I will say it again, we have to continue to shoot the threes. It's like someone misses one and we throw in the towel, become shy. I say if we can hoist them in practice, then we are capable of doing it in a real game. Our future is directly tied to us making them consistently. Just imagine what this would do for Josh. John "Pops" Thompson once said David Wingate could miss 20 shots in a row and blame the basketball. There you go! That would certainly be my attitude. I even hope JT finds a game where Cameron can maybe start or play starter minutes. If I was coach, I would say, "Big fella, go out there and just shoot it like you are in practice."
|
|
EasyEd
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 7,272
|
Post by EasyEd on Jan 11, 2015 19:39:07 GMT -5
Hayes at least hit a short jumper, a sight rarely seen at this year's 5 position.
And, Hopkins, most people on this board don't understand you can't do any more than give it your all - which you did. Keep it up.
|
|
njhoya78
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 7,807
|
Post by njhoya78 on Jan 11, 2015 20:04:31 GMT -5
Two of the top four ranked teams in the nation, Duke and Wisconsin, lost today on the road. Maybe we are overreacting to this loss a bit? Maybe it's just very difficult to win on the road against decent teams (and Rutgers is not a decent team, but won anyway)?
|
|
mfk24
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 2,759
|
Post by mfk24 on Jan 11, 2015 20:19:46 GMT -5
Two of the top four ranked teams in the nation, Duke and Wisconsin, lost today on the road. Maybe we are overreacting to this loss a bit? Maybe it's just very difficult to win on the road against decent teams (and Rutgers is not a decent team, but won anyway)? I think people, myself included get frustrated when we lose winnable games. 4 of our 5 losses have been games we could have won with slightly better execution down the stretch. Some of it is relying heavily on freshman, but a lot of it has been a real lack leadership by our veteran players, the guys we all thought would step up in their new roles and haven't. We can talk all day about DSR playing the point vs. the 2 guard, but he's wilted under the pressure of being the team leader which to me is incredibly surprising.
|
|
GUJook97
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 5,445
|
Post by GUJook97 on Jan 11, 2015 20:41:38 GMT -5
Two of the top four ranked teams in the nation, Duke and Wisconsin, lost today on the road. Maybe we are overreacting to this loss a bit? Maybe it's just very difficult to win on the road against decent teams (and Rutgers is not a decent team, but won anyway)? I think people, myself included get frustrated when we lose winnable games. 4 of our 5 losses have been games we could have won with slightly better execution down the stretch. Some of it is relying heavily on freshman, but a lot of it has been a real lack leadership by our veteran players, the guys we all thought would step up in their new roles and haven't. We can talk all day about DSR playing the point vs. the 2 guard, but he's wilted under the pressure of being the team leader which to me is incredibly surprising. Yes. This. Not to mention, we are 2-9 in the road in the new Big East. Might give them the benefit of the doubt if they won some of those games.
|
|
jester
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 1,008
|
Post by jester on Jan 11, 2015 21:23:54 GMT -5
Wisconsin was missing their best player and also another pg went down to injury, but Duke is an example that freshmen road games are hard. I agree its more the play of the seniors that can be more frustrating.
|
|