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Post by guru on Mar 9, 2015 23:03:21 GMT -5
Oh my God. That. Was. Awesome. Should play well up in canada too |
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Post by SaxaCD on Mar 9, 2015 23:07:13 GMT -5
As hliarious as that is, it's also pretty funny how he ignores the recent shenanigans at UNC, as if the ACC were this pristine pool that Syracuse has now peed into. |
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Post by flyoverhoya on Mar 9, 2015 23:10:53 GMT -5
Oh my God. That. Was. Awesome. Should play well up in canada too Awesome, if somewhat deluded. He's just now noticing that they've sold their souls to ESPN? And that everything was sweetness and light until SU showed up?? |
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Post by guru on Mar 9, 2015 23:11:24 GMT -5
As hliarious as that is, it's also pretty funny how he ignores the recent shenanigans at UNC, as if the ACC were this pristine pool that Syracuse has now peed into. He nodded in that direction - but you're right. Duke and (mostly) Carolina could be in very hot water too. Maybe next year at this time some post standard hack will write this column about the heels with a Brooklyn dateline. |
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Post by hoya95 on Mar 9, 2015 23:26:01 GMT -5
The ACC courted them, sent them secret love letters, and finally stole them away. Well, you all are married to Syracuse now. Good luck with that. It's kind of amazing how quickly Miami, Virginia Tech, BC, Pitt and Syracuse all fell apart as soon as they joined the ACC. Louisville and Notre Dame are on the clock...
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 10, 2015 6:00:42 GMT -5
Don't get the writer's reference to Syracuse's "academic standards" and "academic reputation", though -- he touts them as if those were thought of as positives about Syracuse. And an embarassment of riches with some more bad press: So when the N.C.A.A. released a report Friday outlining years of widespread cheating at Syracuse, perhaps the most surprising detail was about an accomplice: a beige V-shaped building on a hill overlooking this small city 30 miles east of campus. According to the N.C.A.A.’s findings, which stemmed from a series of investigations dating to 2007, the Oneida Family Y.M.C.A. served as an arm of Syracuse’s elaborate system of violating the rules governing college sports. www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/sports/ncaabasketball/misdeeds-at-syracuse-are-traced-to-unlikely-place-ymca.html?_r=0 |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 10, 2015 9:59:10 GMT -5
As deliciously sweet as it would be, I think the article is wrong about Suckacuse owing the Big East money; I believe the sanction require the forfeited NCAA appearance money to be returned to the NCAA. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 10, 2015 10:06:53 GMT -5
Moral of the story - marry that attractive, honest, faithful woman who cares as much about you as she does herself, not the stunning bleached blonde meth addict who will steal your credit cards, sleep with the Fed Ex guy and your best friend, and burn down your house just before she runs off with that billionaire octogenarian with 2 bypass surgeries, skyrocketing blood pressure and malfunctioning internal organs.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 10, 2015 11:02:17 GMT -5
Don't get the writer's reference to Syracuse's "academic standards" and "academic reputation", though -- he touts them as if those were thought of as positives about Syracuse. And an embarassment of riches with some more bad press: So when the N.C.A.A. released a report Friday outlining years of widespread cheating at Syracuse, perhaps the most surprising detail was about an accomplice: a beige V-shaped building on a hill overlooking this small city 30 miles east of campus. According to the N.C.A.A.’s findings, which stemmed from a series of investigations dating to 2007, the Oneida Family Y.M.C.A. served as an arm of Syracuse’s elaborate system of violating the rules governing college sports. www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/sports/ncaabasketball/misdeeds-at-syracuse-are-traced-to-unlikely-place-ymca.html?_r=0Even better - the guy who wrote the NYT article is a proud graduate of - the Syracuse University Newhouse School of Journalism! |
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 10, 2015 11:08:32 GMT -5
In a statement Friday, Mr. Boeheim, the Syracuse coach, cast blame on the “rogue and secretive actions” of Mr. Cornish, who the N.C.A.A. said had provided players with impermissible extra benefits, including money, car rides and meals. Mr. Boeheim said Mr. Cornish was “not someone who was allowed unique access to the men’s basketball program,” contrary to what the report indicated.
Does this mean that there are others who were doing the same thing for SU basketball players, and that Cornish's actions are not unusual?
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 10, 2015 11:14:50 GMT -5
The ACC needs Syracuse, the one we heard about all those years, the school with the academic reputation equal to that of the core ACC universities, the big Orange, the rabid fan base and its bespectacled, professorial coach.Either Duke, North Carolina (notwithstanding the present scandal being investigated by the NCAA), Wake Forest and Virginia aren't as strong academically as I thought, or those schools are in for a rude awakening when they see what Lower Canada Community College is really like.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 10, 2015 11:18:05 GMT -5
The ACC needs Syracuse, the one we heard about all those years, the school with the academic reputation equal to that of the core ACC universities, the big Orange, the rabid fan base and its bespectacled, professorial coach.Either Duke, North Carolina (notwithstanding the present scandal being investigated by the NCAA), Wake Forest and Virginia aren't as strong academically as I thought, or those schools are in for a rude awakening when they see what Lower Canada Community College is really like. If by professorial you mean petulant and obnoxious... |
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 10, 2015 11:26:07 GMT -5
Petulant and obnoxious. . .I thought that was what southerners hated about us Yankees.
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Post by LizziebethHoya on Mar 10, 2015 11:29:40 GMT -5
Let us be real, conferences don't REALLY care about the "academic reputation" of a school.
If anything, they would be more concerned with letting a tougher (Ivy league-like) school in the conference because that means it would be harder for the school to recruit good basketball players and keep them eligible.
Little did the ACC know that Syracuse staff members completed Melo's fingerpainting papers for him
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 10, 2015 12:28:36 GMT -5
Maybe the most telling part of that article is the quiet indignation that the venerable ACC Tournament is sponsored by...New York Life. As late as the early 1980's, the ACC was very much a small, tight know family. You had the Big Four (Carolina, State, Duke, and Wake, in that order) where everyone expected to get to the semis in Greensboro every year. All four of these schools are within 90 minutes of each other. Clemson was an outlier, Virginia just wasn't that good, and Maryland provided spirited competition but was never the Big Four. South Carolina famously walked away and was replaced with Georgia Tech, a former SEC school. But this was a happy little eight team conference until money got in the way. But back to the sponsor. For many years, back in the pre-cable era when the ACC was the only conference to regularly broadcast games on TV, the announcing team of UNC's Jim Thacker and Wake Forest's Billy Packer (aka "Thacker & Packer") were sponsored by Pilot Life Insurance of Greensboro. Every game included a commercial for the Pilot Life jingle, "Sail With the Pilot". Pilot was bought by Jefferson Standard, who was then acquired by Lincoln Financial, and then they got out of the TV business altogether and sold to Raycom. acc.blogs.starnewsonline.com/35605/drink-up-and-savor-this-cocktail-party-because-after-this-one-it-wont-be-the-same/A year or so before the ACC's land grab took place, the NC State band opened its pre-game at the tournament with "Sail With the Pilot". It was a nod that the good old days were going away, and I think the old-timers see Syracuse in the headlines and and the likes of BC and Pitt on the schedule and wonder whatever happened to what Roy Williams once called "that big cocktail party" at the Greensboro Coliseum. This is the last ACC tournament at Greensboro until 2020, to be followed by Verizon Center (who's the home team, Virginia Tech?), two years in Brooklyn, and one in Charlotte. When it returns next to the Coliseum, Mike Krzyzewski, Roy Williams, Jim Boeheim, and Rick Pitino will probably be gone or retired. And which schools will still be playing in the ACC by then? Because just wait until the Big Ten comes calling. Then things really get interesting. The ship is sailing. |
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Post by sleepy on Mar 10, 2015 12:41:21 GMT -5
The ACC courted them, sent them secret love letters, and finally stole them away. Well, you all are married to Syracuse now. Good luck with that. It's kind of amazing how quickly Miami, Virginia Tech, BC, Pitt and Syracuse all fell apart as soon as they joined the ACC. Louisville and Notre Dame are on the clock... Does Louisville REALLY count as a Big East team though? Sure they were in the league for a few years and were big players in it, but I don't really put them in the same category as Syracuse, BC and Pitt when it comes to Big East members. They were passerbys, I don't miss them in a rivalry sense. |
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Post by Highsmith on Mar 10, 2015 16:49:59 GMT -5
OUCH!!! The truth hurts..... |
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Post by Highsmith on Mar 10, 2015 16:54:24 GMT -5
In a statement Friday, Mr. Boeheim, the Syracuse coach, cast blame on the “rogue and secretive actions” of Mr. Cornish, who the N.C.A.A. said had provided players with impermissible extra benefits, including money, car rides and meals. Mr. Boeheim said Mr. Cornish was “not someone who was allowed unique access to the men’s basketball program,” contrary to what the report indicated.Does this mean that there are others who were doing the same thing for SU basketball players, and that Cornish's actions are not unusual? People I work with know the guy and said he always had "access" to all sorts of autographed SU balls and things of that sort. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 10, 2015 19:24:22 GMT -5
In a statement Friday, Mr. Boeheim, the Syracuse coach, cast blame on the “rogue and secretive actions” of Mr. Cornish, who the N.C.A.A. said had provided players with impermissible extra benefits, including money, car rides and meals. Mr. Boeheim said Mr. Cornish was “not someone who was allowed unique access to the men’s basketball program,” contrary to what the report indicated.Does this mean that there are others who were doing the same thing for SU basketball players, and that Cornish's actions are not unusual? People I work with know the guy and said he always had "access" to all sorts of autographed SU balls and things of that sort. Of course he did. Just like Freddy Grimaldi and Sam Dell had access to the program back in the 90's. For every violation laid out by the NCAA, you can bet there were 2 more that SU successfully covered up and hid. |
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Post by tashoya on Mar 10, 2015 21:03:30 GMT -5
OUCH!!! The truth hurts..... The truth is that Syracuse has found a home more fitting for their activities. It's hilarious that the tone of that article is that it's largely Syracuse that's causing the "image" problem. As if they're not in fantastic company. |
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