Lawyer up, Magoo

[tashoya]

Mar 7, 2015 18:35:03 GMT -5 Elvado said:

Sadly Tas it is more likely that some athletic department stooge will read it for them and then pay them ...

Sad, but true.

[DanMcQ]

www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2015/03/dick_vitale_syracuse_coach_jim_boeheim_guilty_of_one_thing_trust_ncaa_video.html

[MassHoya]

ESPN Sports Reporters just ripped Behind a new one for how he has responded/not reponded to the situation. Leopards don't change their spots and rats...well, you get it.

[DFW HOYA]

Mar 8, 2015 8:58:14 GMT -5 MassHoya said:

ESPN Sports Reporters just ripped Behind a new one for how he has responded/not reponded to the situation. Leopards don't change their spots and rats...well, you get it.

The institutional media is generally going to back coaches regardless of the issue, but when things turn, it is difficult to recover. Such was the case with Jim Calhoun. The press was always willing to back him up, always willing to look away, until they just decided one day it was over and done.

Boeheim is approaching that point. No-showing the press conference and appealing the suspension sends a message that he's done nothing wrong. He skated by allegations 20 years ago but it's not so easy this time:

articles.latimes.com/1990-12-20/sports/sp-9749_1_fundamental-ncaa-rules

Finally, a quote from Dick Vitale on the recent matter:

"I think the NCAA was too harsh on Jim Boeheim. Syracuse deserved punishment — they definitely did for some of the things they did. But for what (the NCAA) did to Jim Boeheim, I think has really been sad, and I think you're going to see an appeal process by him. What about the millions he's raised for cancer? I don't want to hear it."

So it's OK to penalize Syracuse, but not his good friend Jimmy B? In some way, that's classic Vitale. He never, ever speaks ill on members of the coaching fraternity and I get that. But friends of Vitale are above reproach, period. To suggest that all this happened over many, many years (not just Fab Melo, but going back to Devendorf, Edelin, etc. etc.) and Boeheim was just an unfortunate bystander is an intellectually bankrupt argument. Bernie Fine was run out of basketball and Boeheim had no knowledge of a man he worked with, side by side for 40 years. But Boeheim raised money for the V Foundation, so give him a break, will ya?

But then, again, it's not an argument at all, just a friend defending another friends, which is all Vitale is doing.

And if things get worse at Duke, just wait for Vitale's impassioned defense.

[TC]

Can we save the self-righteous Vitale criticism please? Vitale doesn't have an unkind word to say about anyone (espn.go.com/espn/dickvitale/story/_/id/7492869/joe-paterno-was-one-kind), and we've been the beneficiary of that benefit of the doubt more than one time over the years.

If you want to point your hypocrisy arrows somewhere, Pete Thamel's last mention of Syracuse was a human interest story in the guy who lipreads Boeheim.

[hoyainspirit]

Mar 8, 2015 9:26:25 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

Mar 8, 2015 8:58:14 GMT -5 MassHoya said:

ESPN Sports Reporters just ripped Behind a new one for how he has responded/not reponded to the situation. Leopards don't change their spots and rats...well, you get it.

The institutional media is generally going to back coaches regardless of the issue, but when things turn, it is difficult to recover. Such was the case with Jim Calhoun. The press was always willing to back him up, always willing to look away, until they just decided one day it was over and done.

Boeheim is approaching that point. No-showing the press conference and appealing the suspension sends a message that he's done nothing wrong. He skated by allegations 20 years ago but it's not so easy this time:

articles.latimes.com/1990-12-20/sports/sp-9749_1_fundamental-ncaa-rules

Finally, a quote from Dick Vitale on the recent matter:

"I think the NCAA was too harsh on Jim Boeheim. Syracuse deserved punishment — they definitely did for some of the things they did. But for what (the NCAA) did to Jim Boeheim, I think has really been sad, and I think you're going to see an appeal process by him. What about the millions he's raised for cancer? I don't want to hear it."

So it's OK to penalize Syracuse, but not his good friend Jimmy B? In some way, that's classic Vitale. He never, ever speaks ill on members of the coaching fraternity and I get that. But friends of Vitale are above reproach, period. To suggest that all this happened over many, many years (not just Fab Melo, but going back to Devendorf, Edelin, etc. etc.) and Boeheim was just an unfortunate bystander is an intellectually bankrupt argument. Bernie Fine was run out of basketball and Boeheim had no knowledge of a man he worked with, side by side for 40 years. But Boeheim raised money for the V Foundation, so give him a break, will ya?

But then, again, it's not an argument at all, just a friend defending another friends, which is all Vitale is doing.

And if things get worse at Duke, just wait for Vitale's impassioned defense.

When I read Vitale's nonsense, I was reminded of Berman and Dilfer trying to defend the fiasco that was the NFL's response to the Ray Rice incident. It just sounds stupid.

[Elvado]

Leave Jimmy alone screams Dickie, "He's a PTPer, a prime time perpetrator!!!!"

[njhoya78]

I wonder. . .have any former Syracuse players (please note I am not using the term "graduate") come forward in support of Boeheim or the SU basketball program since the word of the NCAA sanctions came out? I haven't seen any quotes from any of them yet.

Maybe they are concerned that they are unindicted co-conspirators in the NCAA report. . . .

EDIT: I guess I answered my own question. They're not talking. . .at least not Michael Carter-Williams and Tyler Ennis.

www.syracuse.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/03/ncaa_report_michael_carter-williams_tyler_ennis_have_no_comment_on_jim_boeheim_cny_in_the_nba.html#incart_river

[LizziebethHoya]

Mar 7, 2015 15:38:09 GMT -5 kchoya said:

Apparently Jimmy B. didn't show for his press conference after the game today. Stay classy Jim.

"It was beyond absurd, but it was certainly historic: Someone finally shut Boeheim up."

www.newsobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/luke-decock/article12966326.html#storylink=cpy

[kchoya]

Jeez, this just keeps getting better:

deadspin.com/syracuse-tried-really-hard-to-keep-fab-melo-eligible-1690155797

"The group came up with the idea of having Melo obtain a grade change in a class he'd taken a year earlier. The professor agreed to let Melo submit a paper to raise his past grade, so two staffers—director of basketball operations Stan Kissel and basketball receptionist Debora Belanger—set out to write that paper for him."

[kchoya]

Mar 8, 2015 9:26:25 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

Mar 8, 2015 8:58:14 GMT -5 MassHoya said:

ESPN Sports Reporters just ripped Behind a new one for how he has responded/not reponded to the situation. Leopards don't change their spots and rats...well, you get it.

The institutional media is generally going to back coaches regardless of the issue, but when things turn, it is difficult to recover. Such was the case with Jim Calhoun. The press was always willing to back him up, always willing to look away, until they just decided one day it was over and done.

Boeheim is approaching that point. No-showing the press conference and appealing the suspension sends a message that he's done nothing wrong. He skated by allegations 20 years ago but it's not so easy this time:

articles.latimes.com/1990-12-20/sports/sp-9749_1_fundamental-ncaa-rules

Finally, a quote from Dick Vitale on the recent matter:

"I think the NCAA was too harsh on Jim Boeheim. Syracuse deserved punishment — they definitely did for some of the things they did. But for what (the NCAA) did to Jim Boeheim, I think has really been sad, and I think you're going to see an appeal process by him. What about the millions he's raised for cancer? I don't want to hear it."

So it's OK to penalize Syracuse, but not his good friend Jimmy B? In some way, that's classic Vitale. He never, ever speaks ill on members of the coaching fraternity and I get that. But friends of Vitale are above reproach, period. To suggest that all this happened over many, many years (not just Fab Melo, but going back to Devendorf, Edelin, etc. etc.) and Boeheim was just an unfortunate bystander is an intellectually bankrupt argument. Bernie Fine was run out of basketball and Boeheim had no knowledge of a man he worked with, side by side for 40 years. But Boeheim raised money for the V Foundation, so give him a break, will ya?

But then, again, it's not an argument at all, just a friend defending another friends, which is all Vitale is doing.

And if things get worse at Duke, just wait for Vitale's impassioned defense.

Read the tweet at the of the post if anyone has doubts as to what Dickie V cares about:

deadspin.com/dick-vitale-delivers-ridiculous-rant-defending-jim-boeh-1690110413

[RusskyHoya]

Not surprising that the ACC boosters are circling the wagons. It's not the best of times for the league, with the Sword of Damocles hanging over UNC's head, among other embarrassments. Even BUM is starting to sound some sour notes: www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/acc-fluffs-its-legacy-on-a-bad-week-for-its-present/2015/03/07/cb9bf784-c462-11e4-9ec2-b418f57a4a99_story.html

[DFW HOYA]

Uh-oh. We've heard this before.

[FrazierFanatic]

I don't think Boeheim will leave; he will want to try to have at least one more big NCAA run to (in his mind and the minds of the fan base) stick it to the NCAA's.

[RusskyHoya]

Mar 8, 2015 22:09:49 GMT -5 FrazierFanatic said:

I don't think Boeheim will leave; he will want to try to have at least one more big NCAA run to (in his mind and the minds of the fan base) stick it to the NCAA's.

Probably. On the other hand, people don't always act how you'd expect when they start getting close to their expiration date. No offense to our Upstate New York friends, but I could easily see Boeheim choosing a private tropical beach view over mounds of snow and Bernie Fine's rotting former abode...

DeWitt, NY -- When Bernie Fine moved to Florida after being fired as assistant Syracuse University basketball coach, he had no luck selling his upscale DeWitt home for $550,000.

So Fine decided to rent it out instead. But now, he's suing the tenant for failing to pay thousands in rent and gutting the house of walls, kitchen fixtures and even toilets.

The damage would cost $130,000 to repair and the tenant owes more than $30,000 in back rent, the lawsuit alleges.

The tenant in question is Ronald Davis, of Rochester, founder of Armory Square's Daisy Dukes and once "Rochester's most prolific nightclub owner," according to public records and news accounts.

...

Fine signed the two-year lease with Davis in January 2014 for the 7001 Tiffany Circle home.

The 4,500 square foot home is in a swanky subdivision across the street from the home of SU basketball coach Jim Boeheim.

[SSHoya]

Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim vowed Sunday to ride out the turbulence of the program's harsh NCAA penalties, saying he was "not going anywhere" in the wake of a nine-game suspension, the docking of 12 scholarships and 108 vacated wins.

espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12446895/jim-boeheim-syracuse-orange-vows-stay-not-going-anywhere

[FrazierFanatic]

Now the Magoo fanbois have a thread detailing how the NCAA intentionally screwed them in the tourney 5 years in a row. The entertainment just keeps on coming.

[njhoya78]

I guess the streak of getting screwed in the NCAA tourney has stopped now, courtesy of their own decision to self-ban.

Such a shame.

[SSHoya]

More bad press for Syracuse:

If schools such as Syracuse and Tennessee are having trouble scraping off the mud, it’s not just because they’ve been dirtied by a few menials. The NCAA’s 94-page report on Syracuse convincingly details the extent of academic deception, though Jim Boeheim would have you think it was purely the fault of a lone “rogue” employee. The trouble with that narrative is the red-handed example of Fab Melo in 2012.

www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/problems-in-college-athletics-teach-hard-lessons-that-appear-never-learned/2015/03/09/5549ff04-c68d-11e4-a199-6cb5e63819d2_story.html

[DanMcQ]

Uh-oh - unrest on Tobacco Road...

www.news-record.com/sports/accxtra/ed-hardin-syracuse-gives-league-black-eye/article_90cc8acc-c6a8-11e4-863f-63b736657df6.html