CaliHoya
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Post by CaliHoya on Aug 14, 2013 15:51:49 GMT -5
Looks like the construction company has been selected - when do we break ground and how long till its ready? anyone in the know?
Lee Reed @hoyasad #HoyaNationRT-I am excited 2 reprt that WhitingTurner is the ConstMgmt team 4 the IAC! Awesome partners w/exp on Hilltop #Progress #HoyaSaxa
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CaliHoya
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Post by CaliHoya on Aug 14, 2013 15:53:05 GMT -5
Also, this was an interesting exchange between Lee Reed and Father Kemp. Does this mean the MSF will finally have a name soon??
Lee Reed @hoyasad 3h RT ShawField ready 2 host our nationally ranked soccer programs. Thx2 Irene&EdShaw for making it possible #GRATEFUL pic.twitter.com/QxjWvIUXWd
Raymond B Kemp @kempkeepnitreal 3h @hoyasad nice. Does our other field have a name?
Lee Reed @hoyasad @kempkeepnitreal Soon!!
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Aug 15, 2013 0:02:03 GMT -5
Really? By whom?? (We can take this off-line if you can't say) The reason I'm so curious is because when I asked why the useless Kober-Cogan Building and/or Lot A - that's the parking lot between the hospital and Darnall - couldn't be used as the location of the new dorm, I was told straight-up that MedStar owns the building and parking lot and have their own plans for it. Sure, MedStar has plans for it but if it doesn't get into Georgetown's post-2017 campus plan, nothing moves forward. In theory, MedStar could build a new hospital right on the lot, but the ensuing loss of parking and the use of heavy equipment along Reservoir Road would be an huge issue with the neighborhood gentry. I'm sure you know this, DFW, but MedStar files its own campus plan, separate from the University's. In any case, MedStar's choices boil down to: stay in the existing footprint or track down some greenfield (PGC? Loudoun County? St. Elizabeth's? Some other promising infill spot somewhere?) to compete with INOVA in the 'Giant Campus that Attracts Research Dollars' department. Within their existing space, I can't see them expanding beyond temporary measures, i.e. building one facility to serve a purpose while another is renovated or torn down and rebuilt. There are benefits to being located where they are, but flexibility in construction and footprint maximization isn't one of them. Whiting-Turning built Baylor's new practice facility, as well as a handful of other significant college athletics projects (RPI, William & Mary, Loyola (MD), including some that got LEED status). So it's not a bad pick by any means. The MSF... I'll believe it when I see it. There are some truly formidable obstacles standing in the way of that project going anywhere.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Aug 15, 2013 7:41:34 GMT -5
I'm sure you know this, DFW, but MedStar files its own campus plan, separate from the University's. In any case, MedStar's choices boil down to: stay in the existing footprint or track down some greenfield (PGC? Loudoun County? St. Elizabeth's? Some other promising infill spot somewhere?) to compete with INOVA in the 'Giant Campus that Attracts Research Dollars' department. Within their existing space, I can't see them expanding beyond temporary measures, i.e. building one facility to serve a purpose while another is renovated or torn down and rebuilt. There are benefits to being located where they are, but flexibility in construction and footprint maximization isn't one of them. Here's where it gets cloudy for my view--MedStar may file a separate plan, but Georgetown's previous plans included references to buildings within the medical center. Whther that's an overlap or there are specific buildings designated as "MedStar" vs. "Georgetown" in the plans is unclear to me. The MSF... I'll believe it when I see it. There are some truly formidable obstacles standing in the way of that project going anywhere. Where there's a will, there's a way. Where there's money, there's an even better way.
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hoyatables
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Post by hoyatables on Aug 15, 2013 10:52:18 GMT -5
MedStar does NOT file its own campus plan. Hospital use is not permitted as of right in the R-3 zone. Use is only permitted on Georgetown campus because it is accessory to GU, so the hospital is approved as a part of the GU campus plan.
To make matters more complicated, keep in mind that the northern part of campus has two distinct medical-related uses -- the Hospital, which are the 5-6 buildings controlled by MedStar per the lease, and then the Medical Center, which are the academic buildings for the Medical School and graduate programs. But they are all part of the Georgetown Campus Plan.
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Aug 15, 2013 21:36:53 GMT -5
Ok, reading it again, I obviously overstated the case in terms of the wording. Let me rephrase: MedStar comes up with their own plan and hands it to the University, which gets the fun job of carrying MedStar's water with the Zoning Commission. The Georgetown Hospital portion is covered under the overall GU aegis.
(However, amendments to the Plan can be made during its effective period, so something not being in the 2017 or whenever Plan doesn't mean it cannot happen over the next two decades).
In practice, my understanding is that the coordination/deconfliction mechanism is not one in which the University gets to interface with MedStar, but much more of a "Here you go!" relationship. I will happily defer to Hoyatables as the authority on the matter if I'm wrong. But my sense is that they are not a single cohesive plan representing the negotiated agreement of both parties, but a "you've got yours, I've got mine" arrangement, aside from the occasional attempt by either party to cut in on the other's turf (e.g. whether the hospital can build something on top of North Kehoe... sorry, Shaw Field). They may as well be separate, for all intents and purposes. Again, happy to be corrected if mistaken.
Regardless, tables' other main point is well taken: the distinction between the MedStar portion and the GUMC portion is worth keeping in mind.
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Post by daymondmyles on Sept 4, 2013 8:44:20 GMT -5
Can we direct our season ticket donation to the IAC?
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Sept 4, 2013 9:51:14 GMT -5
i dont think so as the contributions for season tix is an annual fund gift.. They are trying to not cut up the annual fund which is needed to support atheltics and in this case the expenses of the hoyas mens bball team. You can check but i think not and there is good reason. Annual fund donations down some as some people have committed to the iac in lieu of some of their hoop donations. check with people but thats my understanding 1951 LETS GET IT DONE NOW>
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Sept 4, 2013 11:25:19 GMT -5
I believe you technically can, but they're trying not to publicize that fact because they fear everyone will do that and then the basketball team won't have it's normal revenue stream.
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Post by daymondmyles on Sept 4, 2013 12:58:47 GMT -5
Shouldn't they be covered by all that new TV revenue from Fox?
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Post by DanMcQ on Sept 4, 2013 20:31:49 GMT -5
Can we direct our season ticket donation to the IAC? You could certainly do that, but the basketball operating budget is highly dependent on annual HHC donations, which fund the ability for the staff to get on the road and recruit, etc. The program is also dependent on building the IAC, but not at the expense of HHC contributions. As an example, I kept my HHC donation the same and added a 5-year monthly pledge for the IAC. It's what I can afford now and is not a huge number but the 5-year number is not insignificant. No IAC donation is insignificant. In addition, your total athletics donation (HHC + IAC + other team support) counts towards your giving level for seat allocation, etc.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Sept 5, 2013 9:06:07 GMT -5
ANY AMOUNT TO IAC IS ...... GOOD 1951 LETS GET IT DONE NOW...... GO HOYAS OG IAC.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Sept 6, 2013 19:13:46 GMT -5
please note the GUAA Board of Governors has pledged to raise a significant amount designated for the IAC. yup hope all contribute SOMETHING as participation is KEy to help jump start the IAC even more IAC BOG 1951 lets get it done. ANY GIFT HELPS. go hoyas NEED this for all our student athletes., GO HOYAS
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Sept 7, 2013 22:13:51 GMT -5
From the Vox Populi post on the most recent OGB meeting: Time constraints then turned the conversation to the already-approved plan for a new athletic training facility next to the McDonough arena. Talk within the OGB gravitated towards the finer points of the architectural design – the number of recesses in its external walls, the re-articulation of certain arches, and, seemingly most important, the width of things called “mullions.”This should be a tremendous asset in recruiting - we will have the best goddamn looking mullions in the entire NCAA.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Sept 9, 2013 10:32:30 GMT -5
ok know i dont know anglish but what the hecks a mullion ?
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Oct 3, 2013 7:50:04 GMT -5
Updated Timetable for IAC:
December 2013 - University approval of Final Design based on cost estimates May 2014 - Guaranteed Maximum Price received based on 90% Complete Documents June 2014 - Board of Directors approval of Tollgate 14 Funding June 2014 - Old Georgetown Board / Commission of Fine Arts final approvals August 2014 - Full Building Permit issued April 2016 - Certificate of Occupancy issued
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Post by bigelephant on Oct 3, 2013 8:06:22 GMT -5
Updated Timetable for IAC: December 2013 - University approval of Final Design based on cost estimates May 2014 - Guaranteed Maximum Price received based on 90% Complete Documents June 2014 - Board of Directors approval of Tollgate 14 Funding June 2014 - Old Georgetown Board / Commission of Fine Arts final approvals August 2014 - Full Building Permit issued April 2016 - Certificate of Occupancy issued It could not come too soon. However, I'll believe it when I see it(trust but verify). I give a shout out for those who have gotten us this far!!!
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Oct 3, 2013 9:38:52 GMT -5
From Lic's report on the teleconference we are at 32 Million of the 40 million needed by December. Just 8 Million to go.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Oct 3, 2013 12:22:59 GMT -5
Updated Timetable for IAC: December 2013 - University approval of Final Design based on cost estimates May 2014 - Guaranteed Maximum Price received based on 90% Complete Documents June 2014 - Board of Directors approval of Tollgate 14 Funding June 2014 - Old Georgetown Board / Commission of Fine Arts final approvals August 2014 - Full Building Permit issued April 2016 - Certificate of Occupancy issued Updated Timetable for MSF:
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Oct 3, 2013 13:06:19 GMT -5
By way of reference, the Pentagon was built in 16 months.
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