blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 20, 2013 12:45:52 GMT -5
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nychoya3
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Post by nychoya3 on Feb 20, 2013 12:54:43 GMT -5
Signs of real progress. Great to hear.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Feb 20, 2013 12:55:20 GMT -5
Excellent news, and looking at the campaign page (http://campaign.georgetown.edu/progress.html), it appears that GU is very close to hitting the $1 billion mark in its $1.5 billion campaign!
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 20, 2013 13:23:26 GMT -5
Two major thumbs up, but no surprise to many of us. The following part of the release is crucial:
Time for the doubting Thomases to jump on board.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Feb 20, 2013 13:36:43 GMT -5
Excellent news B&G! Thanks for sharing with us.
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seaweed
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Post by seaweed on Feb 20, 2013 13:37:32 GMT -5
what, pray tell, is a "full design phase?" I am not being negative, just curious. Whatever it means, this is good news and progress is always good to see.
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Feb 20, 2013 13:50:22 GMT -5
Full design phase usually means the production of the actual construction documents (plans) necessary to construct the building.
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 20, 2013 13:51:44 GMT -5
Phase 1: Originate This first phase includes all of the discussions, thought, and exploration that lead to the moment when you realize you need to build something new. The phase ends with your decision to move forward with a project. When you reach the end of this phase, you can use this site to prepare yourself for working with an architect.
Phase 2: Focus Here you define the project - its scope, features, purpose, and functionality. This is the time to select an architect (50KB, PDF), and establish an owner-architect agreement (50KB, PDF). Together with your architect, you develop and refine a "vision" for the project. Your architect leads you through a "programming" exercise to help you explore the needs of those who will live, work or play in the space you create. You will identify the services you need from your architect, and the design team will begin to form a cohesive relationship and a shared concept for the final building.
Phase 3: Design Once the requirements of the project are determined, the design phase begins. Your architect gives shape to your vision through drawings and written specifications. Your input into this phase is vital, as you get the first glimpses, and then a more defined look at how your building will take shape. It is important to establish a clear decision-making process with your architect during this phase. The design phase ends when you agree to the plans that will guide construction.
Phase 4: Build The contractor who will construct your building becomes the most active member of the team during this phase. Investments are made in materials, and timetables are extremely important. Good communication within the project team is critical, as the need for changes often arises. This is typically the time of highest stress for the project owner. Your architect will discuss changes and options with you, and ensure that alterations are compatible with your vision for the project.
Phase 5: Occupy This phase beings the day the project is up and running and never really ends. It's where your satisfaction with the project is determined. If you are turning over the project to others who will ultimately use it, good communication during that process is important. Your architect can help ensure that the terms of your building contract were met, and can use the experience of this project to inform future work, should you team together again. For these reasons, it's a good idea to maintain a relationship with your architect.
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 20, 2013 13:52:15 GMT -5
Thanks SS!
The fact that we are now spending real money ($5M) on design docs is a great sign and gives us a better idea of when this project might be completed. Some naysayers thought we were still 6 to 12 months away from even getting to this point.
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Post by westendhoya on Feb 20, 2013 13:53:41 GMT -5
Has there been any spec on build time once shovel in ground?
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Post by CAHoya07 on Feb 20, 2013 14:29:12 GMT -5
I'm a little concerned that when they say "fundraising targets have been met," it can be a little misleading. That doesn't mean that fundraising is over, it's just that we've met our benchmark to proceed along to the next step, right? I assume a lot more money is needed to fully complete the project. So that doesn't mean stop donating!
Other than that minor quibble, great news.
See bolded, italic part in my post above: $20M raised, $40M to go. Hitting the $20M target triggered the University Board greenlighting the project. The faster the $40M is raised, the faster the project completes.
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Post by bigelephant on Feb 20, 2013 14:40:29 GMT -5
Can't get too sanguine - raised $20 Million - $40 to go if I read it correctly. Still a huge amount and we need this chat board to participate. People ask me "How much should I give?" and I reply " Give until it hurts! And then DOUBLE it!
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seaweed
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Post by seaweed on Feb 20, 2013 16:03:40 GMT -5
Full design phase usually means the production of the actual construction documents (plans) necessary to construct the building. Thanks.
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Post by sleepy on Feb 20, 2013 16:15:11 GMT -5
Based upon the design phase of nine months, if we can raise an additional 20 mil just might be breaking ground next spring.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Feb 20, 2013 16:16:00 GMT -5
1) Does anyone know how much of the 60 Million needs to be raised before Shovels are in the ground? Does it need to be fully funded or just 50%? Or some where in between?
2) So 9 months from now puts us at November of 2013. If Hypothetically Shovels were able to be put in the ground after the design plans were completed because we had raised enough does anyone know estimate construction time. Looks like the science building took 2 years to build so I assume around that time line which means we wouldn't be practicing in it until the 2015-2016 at the earliest.
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Post by jgalt on Feb 20, 2013 16:41:10 GMT -5
2) So 9 months from now puts us at November of 2013. If Hypothetically Shovels were able to be put in the ground after the design plans were completed because we had raised enough does anyone know estimate construction time. Looks like the science building took 2 years to build so I assume around that time line which means we wouldn't be practicing in it until the 2015-2016 at the earliest. Im totally guessing here, so take my response with a large grain of salt: I am hoping that this milestone will encourage the larger donors to jump in, including naming rights. That this amount was tied to the board taking action, it may be a signal to these large donors that this is actually going to happen and not just a pipe dream. As for how long it will take. because this is essentially a big box with two smaller boxes inside, it may not take as long as the science center or MSB. Also its in a location that is easier to isolate from campus. They dont need to close the same type of roads (you can take canal and go right into the parking garage for example). But im not in construction so who knows. Best case scenario we are looking at three years give or take?
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thebin
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Post by thebin on Feb 20, 2013 17:12:43 GMT -5
Does $60M sounds low to anyone else for a major university building in a part of the world where the cost of contruction/red tape could not possibly be higher?
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hoyatables
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Post by hoyatables on Feb 20, 2013 17:25:43 GMT -5
No. $60M sounds right to me.
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Post by 3xhoya on Feb 20, 2013 18:18:11 GMT -5
It only cost SUcks 15.3 mil to build their bball training facility in Canada so I would say that price is about right.
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jgalt
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Post by jgalt on Feb 20, 2013 19:42:27 GMT -5
The total cost is $125mil I believe. $60mil is for shovels in the ground. And most of the red tape is over with (hopefully).
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