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Post by FromTheBeginning on Mar 20, 2013 12:35:09 GMT -5
Put a monthly giving plan together - put it on you credit card and watch those frequent flyer miles pile up!!
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Post by RusskyHoya on Mar 20, 2013 14:51:32 GMT -5
Is the Leavey Center hotel going to remain a hotel, or are they using that space for some other reason? I do think that would have been odd dorm space, especially since it's sort of isolated from all the other dorms on campus (though not much more than Darnall). The Leavey Center hotel will remain a hotel for the foreseeable future. There's an awareness that Leavey as a whole will need to be "reimagined" sometime in the medium term, but that's not going to happen until the next go-round of campus planning at least.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 24, 2013 0:10:30 GMT -5
We spend a lot of time here discussing how the Hoyas could be a better basketball team, especially after games like yesterday. That's fun, but in the end the discussion here has no direct effect on improving the Hoyas' chances.
One tangible thing we can do is support this project so that it becomes a reality as soon as possible. I'd encourage everyone who cares enough to spend valuable time here to participate.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Mar 24, 2013 1:07:10 GMT -5
Ha.
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Post by CAHoya07 on Mar 24, 2013 4:48:19 GMT -5
We spend a lot of time here discussing how the Hoyas could be a better basketball team, especially after games like yesterday. That's fun, but in the end the discussion here has no direct effect on improving the Hoyas' chances. One tangible thing we can do is support this project so that it becomes a reality as soon as possible. I'd encourage everyone who cares enough to spend valuable time here to participate. Amen. Want Georgetown basketball to reach the next level? Let's get this thing built.
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Post by hoyatables on Mar 24, 2013 10:17:06 GMT -5
Definitely. And this is not just about men's basketball. It's about all 27 athletic teams and the 1,000 or so students that participate in them each year. And it benefits the rest of the student body because it will free up space in Yates as well that is currently set aside for weights for the athletic teams.
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Post by wisconsinhoya on Mar 24, 2013 21:29:58 GMT -5
Amen Dan. Best point of the weekend. If we want to help our program, let's all pitch in and get this facility built for Georgetown.
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Post by bigelephant on Mar 25, 2013 6:35:23 GMT -5
Does anyone have the latest figures of the total pledges and money collected?
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Post by Dhall on Mar 25, 2013 12:23:55 GMT -5
I'm curious as to how much of the $10m+ that JTIII has collected from Georgetown since he's been here he is donating to this effort? Or his father? I'm not trying to be a jerk about this, but I think the man/family who has reaped the most financial rewards from the basketball program and who stands to gain the most from the IAC should publicize his contribution if he hasn't already done so. He has more means than most alumni and I know that seeing him make a substantial financial commitment would motivate people to dig deeper in their own pockets. Don't need the exact number as that is private, but is he in the "leadership circle" of $___ or more, etc. as most fundraising campaigns publicize?
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 25, 2013 12:48:38 GMT -5
I think the man/family who has reaped the most financial rewards from the basketball program and who stands to gain the most from the IAC should publicize his contribution if he hasn't already done so. He has more means than most alumni and I know that seeing him make a substantial financial commitment would motivate people to dig deeper in their own pockets. Not so. JT III is an employee, and salary from an employer does not require an employee to support an employer's own capital projects. By the same analogy, should Chester Gillis have made a seven figure gift for Regents Hall? Certainly, should he choose to, the gift would be welcomed, but employees are different when it comes to fundraising.
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Post by hoyatables on Mar 25, 2013 13:25:49 GMT -5
Furthermore, I think part of the package to keep JTIII rather than bolting to another program is the promise to build this. Arguably, JTIII is taking less than he could at another program because he's dealing with the less than ideal current facilities situation.
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Post by SirSaxa on Mar 25, 2013 13:37:12 GMT -5
We spend a lot of time here discussing how the Hoyas could be a better basketball team, especially after games like yesterday. That's fun, but in the end the discussion here has no direct effect on improving the Hoyas' chances. One tangible thing we can do is support this project so that it becomes a reality as soon as possible. I'd encourage everyone who cares enough to spend valuable time here to participate. Post of the Year!This is everyone's chance to demonstrate our support and to have a real impact on the success of the team.
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Post by Dhall on Mar 25, 2013 14:16:58 GMT -5
I think the man/family who has reaped the most financial rewards from the basketball program and who stands to gain the most from the IAC should publicize his contribution if he hasn't already done so. He has more means than most alumni and I know that seeing him make a substantial financial commitment would motivate people to dig deeper in their own pockets. Not so. JT III is an employee, and salary from an employer does not require an employee to support an employer's own capital projects. By the same analogy, should Chester Gillis have made a seven figure gift for Regents Hall? Certainly, should he choose to, the gift would be welcomed, but employees are different when it comes to fundraising. You're entitled to your view of course, but there is a long list of coaches giving back to the programs that have treated them well. Coach K being the most prominent. Any fundraiser would also tell you that a gift from the Thompsons to the project would have a positive impact on generating more funds from others. It is called a donation/charity because it is not an obligation - the Thompsons are not obligated to give, and neither is anyone else. If they have chosen to contribute, they should promote that fact.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Mar 25, 2013 15:04:20 GMT -5
I'm actually curious as to who else is in that long line, just because I've never heard of it happening.
I know that JTIII, since he's been at GU tends to focus his philanthropic efforts (at least the public ones) toward community activities, rather than events on campus, often through the John Thompson III Foundation.
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Post by Dhall on Mar 25, 2013 15:44:48 GMT -5
I'm actually curious as to who else is in that long line, just because I've never heard of it happening. I know that JTIII, since he's been at GU tends to focus his philanthropic efforts (at least the public ones) toward community activities, rather than events on campus, often through the John Thompson III Foundation. You can research it pretty easily for any particular coach or school. Joe Paterno is another famous one that literally gave millions of dollars to Penn State. Not sure about his will given his firing though!
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 25, 2013 16:42:26 GMT -5
It's interesting that there have been no former basketball players that have donated to the IAC (or, alternatively, that Georgetown doesn't believe in promoting the fact that the former players are giving back, which could be done regardless of the actual donation amount).
And I think it matters that no players are donating. My donation is based on the premise that Georgetown basketball meant a lot to my college experience and that its continued success will mean a lot to current and future students. One would think that former players would care about the program at least as much as I do.
I'm not saying they should be giving huge amounts, as I don't know their financial situations, but it's weird that I'm more willing to donate money to the program than NBA players.
Again, it's not about the amount, but even if former players are donating the same amount as other young alumni, I would think that the University would promote the fact that the donation was made.
And again, I'm also more than willing to believe that Georgetown is doing that thing where they provide no information because why would anyone want to know that Georgetown players valued their experience enough to donate money to the program.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 25, 2013 16:54:44 GMT -5
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 25, 2013 17:33:12 GMT -5
Good to hear. As I tried to say, I'm willing to believe that players are donating and Georgetown isn't publicizing it (or that I missed the news about the donation). Though I'll also note that Alonzo's endowed scholarship is not a donation to the IAC and that the scholarship was endowed around 2007 or earlier, so it's not like I missed a recent announcement. That being said, there were no press releases I could find about former players donating to the IAC. The only press release about donations to the IAC was about the Shaws' donation. I don't understand why Georgetown isn't publicizing donations by basketball players OR these donations aren't happening.
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Post by hoyatables on Mar 25, 2013 17:36:28 GMT -5
Thanks, Dan. Great example. Similarly, I think it is hard to find fault with Deke's philanthropic spirit, no matter how much or how little ends up at his alma mater.
Furthermore, if I were GU and/or any one of these high-profile donors, I'm pretty sure I would wait until the end to announce that "big fish" contribution -- particularly if it is a significant sum. Don't want the general public (the same general public who just assumes I am made of money and can fund a multi-million dollar building) to assume that I could just throw in a "little more" to fill whatever gap is left.
Yes, I recognize that some of you say you won't donate until they do and so you claim that by NOT making such announcements, GU hurts its cause. Athletics and Advancement probably also know this as well. But they (wisely, I suspect) aren't basing their decisions on the people who come up with excuses to NOT donate to GU.
PS: I put my money where my mouth is and set up a recurring quarterly gift to carry me through to the end of the year.
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 25, 2013 18:00:22 GMT -5
Thanks, Dan. Great example. Similarly, I think it is hard to find fault with Deke's philanthropic spirit, no matter how much or how little ends up at his alma mater. Furthermore, if I were GU and/or any one of these high-profile donors, I'm pretty sure I would wait until the end to announce that "big fish" contribution -- particularly if it is a significant sum. Don't want the general public (the same general public who just assumes I am made of money and can fund a multi-million dollar building) to assume that I could just throw in a "little more" to fill whatever gap is left. Yes, I recognize that some of you say you won't donate until they do and so you claim that by NOT making such announcements, GU hurts its cause. Athletics and Advancement probably also know this as well. But they (wisely, I suspect) aren't basing their decisions on the people who come up with excuses to NOT donate to GU. I've donated. Also, I don't know anyone that has said that they wouldn't donate unless basketball players (or big fish) did. In fact, if I recall correctly, Georgetown didn't start asking the little fish like me to donate to the IAC until they'd secured enough big donations. And they've already announced the Shaws' record breaking donation to the IAC, so why wouldn't they announce other big donations? Or just give us a list of all the former basketball players that have donated? A list with 50 (or however many) former players that have donated to the IAC would prevent this question from coming up, even if the amount they donated was never disclosed. Heck, I think it would help raise more money for the same reason why companies hire celebrities to endorse their project. So, when you point to Dikembe raising money for all kinds of things, I think that's great. I don't care if he chooses to donate to other causes instead of the IAC. But you don't think it's weird that EVERY SINGLE BASKETBALL PLAYER TO EVER PLAY AT GEORGETOWN has decided that the IAC is not an important enough of a cause? As I said, I've already donated once. Like everyone else, I have limited funds to give to charity. Why should I donate more money to the IAC instead of giving that money to the poor or the sick when former basketball players aren't donating to the IAC? I would think that Georgetown would want a good answer to that question, because I know that I'd ask them that if I had real money to donate. Then again, I guess I should just trust that Georgetown knows what it's doing and won't screw up this project, since it has been so very successful at fundraising for athletic facilities in the past.
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