swhoya
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Post by swhoya on Nov 21, 2010 23:15:43 GMT -5
You can count me among those that didn't think we'd be as talented as we are. I called for more press because we were going to be a much faster team, not because I thought we'd be more talented or deeper.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Nov 21, 2010 23:16:04 GMT -5
you are a huuuuuuge hater, i dont recall these bad decisions you claim he made.. all he did was miss two freethrows... go to some other board If you watch the replay, I think you'll see him pushing in that spot, which was not needed. He played a good game otherwise, again, as I've stated. no, he did not play an awful 3 minutes. period. get outta here with that bs |
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Nov 21, 2010 23:20:53 GMT -5
Not much else to add. Just stunned by Sims' development. As much as it speaks to Sims' hard work and dedication, I also think it reflects incredibly well on the staff's ability to develop big man talent. What a step forward for Henry this year (and Julian too...)!
I hope some of the recruits we are targeting were able to watch us play this weekend. We looked pretty impressive. Running great offense at times. Playing an exciting brand of basketball, with a quick pace and explosive dunks. Hungry defensive pressure, with fly swatters and intensity. Awesome coach who is a great tactician and relates incredibly to the modern athlete.
I'd want to play for Georgetown if I were Kyle Anderson and Daniel Ochefu.
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Post by wahoohoya on Nov 21, 2010 23:21:35 GMT -5
This team is VERY talented, deeper than we thought, and extremely well coached. Deeper than many of you thought but some of us felt very good about the quality of talent going into the season. I may have mentioned it only once or so on HT and HR but to the guys at work I pointed out for weeks now that I felt this team has a great chance at being better than last season's team. The only guy I wasn't quite sure about was Henry. Going into the season, I was pretty confident this team would be better than last year. Mostly because last year we finished 8th in the Big East and lost in the first round of the NCAA. But of course last year we had some ridiculous wins that I wasn't sure we could duplicate this year. That "we can beat anybody, we can lose to anybody" thing that drove us all crazy. Just didn't have the depth and mental toughness to get it done every night. This year we are obviously more experienced and deeper and thus should be more consistent but still not sure about how high the ceiling is. This was a great win against a talented team, and if Henry keeps improving and Julian and Hollis continue to be reliable scorers, this team can probably hang with anybody. |
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Post by gujake on Nov 21, 2010 23:21:37 GMT -5
what a game!!!
i have to say, Chris Wright looks like a different player this year... really looking to pass first and get his teammates involved. here's a stat: Chris had 7 or more assists in 8 of the ~80 games he played the last 3 years. he has had 7 or more in 3 of the first 5 games this year.
Very deserving of the MVP.
Henry will be the key to the season in my opinion. If he can keep this up or even improve, watch out.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Nov 21, 2010 23:29:32 GMT -5
Great game tonight!! Especially in the middle of the second half, when they pulled away. Solid contributions from everyone on the floor. Everyone else has pretty much covered the details but a great win over a quality high-major opponent!! Fun one to watch.
On edit: also wanted to highlight Hollis' awesome game:
18pts (7-9 / 2-3 3ptFG) & 9 rebs.
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Post by mapei on Nov 21, 2010 23:48:00 GMT -5
FWIW, I'm going to defend the Ambassador - Chris did have a subpar stretch in there for 2-3 minutes when I thought he looked a little fatigued: missing the two front ends, getting beat a time or two on D, rushing at least one very long jumper. But it was only those 2-3 minutes. I agree with everything good that people are saying about him: his court/team awareness, sense of timing, protecting the ball, running the team really well. Jason was our best player the first couple of games, but since then it's been Chris, who just looks like a much more mature and polished player now. He's been fantastic.
Austin was a little off tonight by the standards we have come to expect of him. Reminds me of those occasional quiet games we would have from Jeff. But Henry, JV, Hollis and the bench were all great. I'm surprised that Markel is getting PT over Vee, and Jerrelle over Nate, but those aren't really complaints since what we're doing is successful.
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Post by MCIGuy on Nov 21, 2010 23:48:23 GMT -5
Deeper than many of you thought but some of us felt very good about the quality of talent going into the season. I may have mentioned it only once or so on HT and HR but to the guys at work I pointed out for weeks now that I felt this team has a great chance at being better than last season's team. The only guy I wasn't quite sure about was Henry.  OK Captain Hindsight. Naw. Some of just aren't as negative or pessimistic as others. Or blind. Last couple of years I've grown tired of the chicken littles of Hoya fandom so I don't bother arguing against the tide anymore nor do I try to waste time trying to ease people's fears or skepticism. I mainly just observe from the side these days. But I was never worried about THIS team. Especially in today's waterdowned college basketball. My main conern a few months back was strictly recruiting and even that problem seems to be taking care of itself. But worry about a squad dominated by three upperclassmen NBA caliber guards playing a sport that is determined these days by guard play? Get real. |
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 21, 2010 23:53:28 GMT -5
I'm usually mr. postivity, but since everyone is being so positive I think I'll switch it up and be a little negative.
I thought we played a bad first half. We were playing NC state's game and not our own. Chris was forcing it a little at times. We weren't running the offense as well as we can( as evidenced by the second half). NC state was making our defense look foolish we weren't buckling down the way we can and did ( again in the second half).
I was frusterated with our first half performance, but encouraged by the fact that despite playing quite poorly in my opinion we were tied. I knew JTIII would tell them to run the offense and buckle down on defense, and that's exactly what we did.
If we play a whole game the way we did the second half we can beat anyone.
Ok enough with that.
the second half was amazing.
Chris went back to playing the way he did the first two games of the tournament. we patiently ran the offense and got good open shots. We didn't force it. I was really encouraged by us upping our defense and shutting down NC state. We held them scoreless for 5 minutes in the second half and it was game over.
Henry, Hollis, Julian were all great.
What Front Court deficiencies?
Julian has 13 blocks in the last 3 games!
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Post by MCIGuy on Nov 21, 2010 23:53:55 GMT -5
Deeper than many of you thought but some of us felt very good about the quality of talent going into the season. I may have mentioned it only once or so on HT and HR but to the guys at work I pointed out for weeks now that I felt this team has a great chance at being better than last season's team. The only guy I wasn't quite sure about was Henry. I don't know what you're talking about. Almost everyone here thought we had a talented and deep team coming into the season. That's why everyone is calling for more press. That's just one example. Sorry but a whole bunch of folks here, including folks that I tend to agree with, were voicing their concerns for months about quality depth, lack of defense, lack of rebounding, whether Chris was a true top notch guard, whether III had lost his recruiting touch and if III was too stubborn to ever use the press of the quality of guard depth at his disposal. Heck, even the other day we had intelligent folks here claiming we didn't matchup with NC State all that well. |
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Post by HoyaChris on Nov 22, 2010 0:03:56 GMT -5
Just back from the game with some thoughts.
Our second half rebounding was amazing. At one point late in the first half the scoreboard in the arena said we were being outrebounded by 30-22. We ended up outrebounding NCS by 42-33. This would mean that we got 20 of the last 23 rebounds.
Related to the rebounds, the sense I got today was that this team reminded me of the 1986-7 team. This felt like the most effort I have seen since Reggie and the Miracles.
We are running the half court offense much faster and it puts a tremendous amount of pressure on the defense. Among others, Hollis Thompson is much quicker in person than he seems on TV. He is going to be really special.
The light bulb moment - or moments, really the entire tournament - that Henry had reminds me of the Charles Smith coming out. Henry has gone from an afterthought to being absolutely central to our success this year.
Next year is going to be a war for playing time among the bigs. With Henry as a force, you now have Sims, Lubick, Ayegba, Hopkins, Adams and Benimon. Hollis will see 32-35 minutes at the 3.
Finally Jerelle Benimon. He is a defensive force. If coach wants him on the floor, I will no longer question the decision.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Nov 22, 2010 0:43:21 GMT -5
Good to see our guys enjoying their time as much as we are... SugarFree_15 RT @mrjujuvaughn: Wish jerrelle had a twitter so we could make him a TT POSTERIZEDDDDD tonight....#ouch cnt wait for sportscenter  * * * * Joking aside, our team is greatly improved in the prep/mindset department. They have cut down considerably on the pregame tweeting and garbage like that. |
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Post by RDF on Nov 22, 2010 2:22:45 GMT -5
Let's CELEBRATE THE WIN and quit getting on each others.
TI, I agree with Ambassador--Chris has been/was wonderful--but there was a stretch he was getting too "excited" on the court--he's got to make those FT's--left 4 pts at the line--and that helps him/team--so he'll be first to admit that--but it was his decision making that got a little lax. To HIS CREDIT---he figured it out and regained control on his own--otherwise he's been brilliant.
MCI always has been very vocal in his feelings this was going to be a solid team. I know I've had my doubts---and had serious case of "I want to see it first" but one thing I've always said/will say--if the team plays their butts off, I'm more then satisfied. MCI has never wavered at all in his support.
GREAT, GREAT, GREAT job by everyone on the team---and really like the adjustments that III has made. One thing I like to see--Coach Kirby is helping the big men and it's nice to have a staff that can add something to the staff in terms of X/O's and not just as recruiters (or so called recruiters) because it helps the Head Coach do his job a lot easier.
III has been outstanding in his adjustments to several things and glad to see he/team rewarded for it!
Great job--now back to work at practices this week to get ready for weekend game. Talk will focus onto "name" opponents--but the contending teams focus on themselves and worry only about that--you don't get looking ahead. That is next step for team's maturity and where the depth comes in handy--if players aren't focused--you have other options to throw out on the court.
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Post by odufan757 on Nov 22, 2010 3:07:01 GMT -5
Great job winning your tournament with ease. You certainly belong in the top 25, maybe even the top 10 right now, kicking arse and taking names.
ODU will try and win its own tournament tomorrow, after beating Clemson Sunday they will play Xavier Monday night in the Championship game. Should be another tough, ugly, fairly low scoring grind it out game.
I've been rooting for Gtown for the last 4 or 5 years now to win for the RPI points for ODU. Your guards are incredibly fun to watch.
Congrats again!
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Post by MCIGuy on Nov 22, 2010 5:09:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure it has been mentioned but in five games the Hoyas have had four different leading scorers.
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Post by SaxaCD on Nov 22, 2010 6:23:52 GMT -5
I'm not sure it has been mentioned but in five games the Hoyas have had four different leading scorers. For a team that's supposed to be so heavily reliant on a "big three", i find this stat the best sign of all! |
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Nov 22, 2010 6:50:50 GMT -5
this is what happens when we defend and rebound. great job by the bigs getting second shots. good to see hollis break out. let's continue to improve.
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Post by SirSaxa on Nov 22, 2010 9:12:04 GMT -5
Great job winning your tournament with ease. You certainly belong in the top 25, maybe even the top 10 right now, kicking arse and taking names. ODU will try and win its own tournament tomorrow, after beating Clemson Sunday they will play Xavier Monday night in the Championship game. Should be another tough, ugly, fairly low scoring grind it out game. I've been rooting for Gtown for the last 4 or 5 years now to win for the RPI points for ODU. Your guards are incredibly fun to watch. Congrats again! Thanks ODU. Good luck to you too. Except when you are playing in McDonough Gym, we pull for you. Actually, the two McDonough games, painful as they were, served as "Wake-up Calls" for our guys... so they were very useful in the long run. |
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Post by SirSaxa on Nov 22, 2010 9:17:18 GMT -5
Hollis will see 32-35 minutes at the 3 next year.
Finally Jerelle Benimon. He is a defensive force. If coach wants him on the floor, I will no longer question the decision. Agree with your post and these two points in particular. I think Hollis is just beginning to see that he really CAN be a star on this team and in the Big East. He will be a major contributor this year. Very tough on Defenses. And.. next year when he is playing his natural position at SF, 6'7+, he will be one of our stars -- which he will need to be in place of Awesome Freeman. Clark will be a full time 2G next year too, and Markel will start at PG. We'll lose some of that senior experience and leadership, but still have plenty of talent -- to go with the front court you mentioned. Things are looking up. Finally, my son said to me what you said re: Jerrelle. "So Dad, looks like you are going to have to rethink what you've been saying about Benimon!" He's right. Great game by the TEAM last night. Thanks for sharing your insights Chris. |
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Post by SirSaxa on Nov 22, 2010 9:21:57 GMT -5
Let's CELEBRATE THE WIN and quit getting on each others. WHAT! I just about fell off my chair when I read the above! From RDF!?!?!? We need to call in Scully and Mulder because something VERY strange is happening in Hoya land. Chris is playing like an ALL BE PG. Someone (or something... cue eerie music!) has taken over Henry Sims body and has him playing like Greg. And RDF is telling posters to be NICE to each other! This can't possibly last! What a GREAT weekend in S. Carolina. Hats off to JT3 and staff, and the entire team. |
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