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Post by weknowbball on Mar 29, 2010 20:44:00 GMT -5
weknowbball, As per your request, a quote by Jeremiah Rivers from the Indianapolis Star: "[The Indiana] offense is so much better because I'm not going out there and worrying about going to a specific spot or running the exact same play three or four times in a row. At Georgetown I would run the same thing over and over, and it became so repetitive. I really became like a robot there offensively. I had no idea how to play anymore." Thanks for finding that, I don't recall having ever read it before. I will say that he undoubtedly was the biggest disappointment for IU this year. Georgetown, and the Big East in general, isn't televised that often out here so most of us had never seen him play until this year. Seeing as how he would be a 4th year junior, Doc Rivers' son, and been to the final four, our fans were expecting a solig PG. Instead, I found myself asking, "How does this guy have a D1 scholarship?" Did Thompson really call Abraham the next Ewing? And, just curious, does G'town always keep 3 centers on roster? That would be nice.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 29, 2010 20:50:59 GMT -5
The quote by Pops was that "he hadn't seen someone block shots like that since Ewing." Which is different enough that it could be taken stylistically or possibly just referring to the performance that he saw (which I think was 12 blocks).
We haven't had three centers for years. We could next year, depending on who sticks around and who you call a center. For some folks, we had 3 PFs and no centers this year.
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Post by HoyaSox04 on Mar 29, 2010 21:03:22 GMT -5
The quote by Pops was that "he hadn't seen someone block shots like that since Ewing." Which is different enough that it could be taken stylistically or possibly just referring to the performance that he saw (which I think was 12 blocks). We haven't had three centers for years. We could next year, depending on who sticks around and who you call a center. For some folks, we had 3 PFs and no centers this year. Pssawh, the Twin Towers of Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje and Wesley Wilson scoff at the notion that the 2 of them couldn't equal the production of 3 normal centers!
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Post by Big Dog on Mar 30, 2010 9:13:50 GMT -5
The quote by Pops was that "he hadn't seen someone block shots like that since Ewing." Which is different enough that it could be taken stylistically or possibly just referring to the performance that he saw (which I think was 12 blocks). We haven't had three centers for years. We could next year, depending on who sticks around and who you call a center. For some folks, we had 3 PFs and no centers this year. Pssawh, the Twin Towers of Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje and Wesley Wilson scoff at the notion that the 2 of them couldn't equal the production of 3 normal centers! We had 3 on the 1997-98 team my freshman year--Jahidi White, Jameel Watkins, Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje.
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Post by Grandpa on Mar 30, 2010 9:38:25 GMT -5
Am I correct to understand Moses will be picking his Hoya uniform number based on the final page count of this thread?
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 30, 2010 9:44:22 GMT -5
What happens if it goes over 100?
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Post by kchoya on Mar 30, 2010 10:37:29 GMT -5
weknowbball, As per your request, a quote by Jeremiah Rivers from the Indianapolis Star: "[The Indiana] offense is so much better because I'm not going out there and worrying about going to a specific spot or running the exact same play three or four times in a row. At Georgetown I would run the same thing over and over, and it became so repetitive. I really became like a robot there offensively. I had no idea how to play anymore." Thanks for finding that, I don't recall having ever read it before. I will say that he undoubtedly was the biggest disappointment for IU this year. Georgetown, and the Big East in general, isn't televised that often out here so most of us had never seen him play until this year. Seeing as how he would be a 4th year junior, Doc Rivers' son, and been to the final four, our fans were expecting a solig PG. Instead, I found myself asking, "How does this guy have a D1 scholarship?" Did Thompson really call Abraham the next Ewing? And, just curious, does G'town always keep 3 centers on roster? That would be nice. You don't get ESPN or CBS in Indiana?
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Post by tashoya on Mar 30, 2010 10:53:53 GMT -5
weknowbball, As per your request, a quote by Jeremiah Rivers from the Indianapolis Star: "[The Indiana] offense is so much better because I'm not going out there and worrying about going to a specific spot or running the exact same play three or four times in a row. At Georgetown I would run the same thing over and over, and it became so repetitive. I really became like a robot there offensively. I had no idea how to play anymore." Thanks for finding that, I don't recall having ever read it before. I will say that he undoubtedly was the biggest disappointment for IU this year. Georgetown, and the Big East in general, isn't televised that often out here so most of us had never seen him play until this year. Seeing as how he would be a 4th year junior, Doc Rivers' son, and been to the final four, our fans were expecting a solig PG. Instead, I found myself asking, "How does this guy have a D1 scholarship?" Did Thompson really call Abraham the next Ewing? And, just curious, does G'town always keep 3 centers on roster? That would be nice. We all thought the same exact thing about Rivers. Frustrating isn't it?
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Post by prhoya on Mar 30, 2010 12:09:26 GMT -5
JRivers is a very good self-promoter. Unfortunately for him and those who believe him, his play speaks louder than words.
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Post by weknowbball on Mar 30, 2010 17:34:21 GMT -5
JRivers is a very good self-promoter. Unfortunately for him and those who believe him, his play speaks louder than words. So very true, I can't believe I have to watch him for another year
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Post by SirSaxa on Mar 30, 2010 18:43:31 GMT -5
Thanks for finding that, I don't recall having ever read it before. I will say that he undoubtedly was the biggest disappointment for IU this year. Georgetown, and the Big East in general, isn't televised that often out here so most of us had never seen him play until this year. Seeing as how he would be a 4th year junior, Doc Rivers' son, and been to the final four, our fans were expecting a solig PG. Instead, I found myself asking, "How does this guy have a D1 scholarship?" Rivers was a first class Defensive specialist on a Final Four team. He truly had an outstanding season at the defensive end of the court, vs. high quality players like Scottie Reynolds and Johnny Flynn. But as others -- and even RIVERS has said -- he was clueless on the offensive end of the court. He says he did not understand the offensive system, and he played like it. His dad even paid for a professional shooting coach to work with him over the summer between freshman and soph years, but it did not have a lasting impact. The unfortunate things? Even his dad was not in favor of him transferring, but said something like -- "He has to make his own decisions, otherwise it will just fall back on blaming dad". Kid could not or would not recognize that his offensive shortcomings were of his own doing. Instead of working on them, he chose to blame JT3 and transfer to IU -- where his old buddy Crean was desperately in need of players. Too bad.
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Post by blueandgray on Mar 30, 2010 19:47:38 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 30, 2010 21:01:23 GMT -5
I don't think so. Bobo was a major disappointment. With Josh Smith coming in next year, his chances for playing time were pretty much zilch. He hardly played this year, when UCLA had no other true centers.
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Post by rustyshackleford on Mar 30, 2010 21:02:26 GMT -5
Considering that Stover, their only other true center, is a serious project and that over last season and this offseason they'll have lost Gordon, Keefe and Dragovic I"m not surprised a little panic is setting in. Moses fits Howland's tough defense philosophy and while they are getting an absolute stud in Smith, he makes mo walker look like jason clark.
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 30, 2010 21:03:51 GMT -5
Next year will be an interesting one for Howland...looks like the wheels may be coming off in Westwood. Top assistant leaves for Gonzaga? Ouch...
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 31, 2010 12:07:56 GMT -5
Next year will be an interesting one for Howland...looks like the wheels may be coming off in Westwood. Top assistant leaves for Gonzaga? Ouch... Yeah, this is an interesting development. But hardly reason for panic. Keefe and Dragovic? ZZZZZZ. Their biggest graduation loss is Michael Roll. The starting forward spots are going to be in good hands for the foreseeable future with Honeycutt and Nelson, who were both frosh this year (and showed lots of potential while playing through various injuries). The absolute key for UCLA is the backcourt. Lee and Anderson were both supposed to be studs, and neither has shown it yet (although Anderson has been set back by numerous physical issues), and I don't think they anticipated not having Jrue Holiday this last season. Sort of the opposite of Collison and Westbrook, who were not heavily recruited, and turned out pretty well. The Bruins are bringing in Tyler Lamb and a juco kid who is supposed to be super quick and a good defensive player to address the backcourt issues. And thus endeth my hifi moment.
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Post by idhoya on Mar 31, 2010 23:27:09 GMT -5
Bobo just never got into shape. He did get into Howland's doghouse though. Was seen as lazy.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 10, 2010 19:50:32 GMT -5
"Moses Abraham was booed during introductions here at Freedom Hall. I repeat, Moses was booed." stupid indiana fans are apparently still bitter.
"So far, totally underwhelmed by Moses Abraham. His future teammate at Georgetown, Nate Lubick, went at him and scored without resistance."
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 10, 2010 19:54:18 GMT -5
From lousiville fans: "I think Lubick has looked good so far. He's an intelligent player and he's had a few good moves and shots. Don't know about Moses, can't recall his name and haven't really been looking for him, but I did notice Lubick."
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Apr 10, 2010 20:36:52 GMT -5
Typical all star game from what i saw. Guards dominate and the big men barely touch the ball. Nate played pretty well. Scored on garbage buckets, made some nice passes, had a nice block and when Ray McCallum tried to go to the bucket, Nate knocked him down with a hard foul. Black team led by a bunch before McCallum brought back the White team to within a single possesion with a few minutes remaining. Nate was on the bench at that point but was sent back in when the game got close. Moses looked bigger than i thought he would but he really didn't get much burn.
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