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Post by thedragon on Nov 8, 2023 20:52:41 GMT -5
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Post by hoyaboya on Nov 8, 2023 21:34:02 GMT -5
Sorber’s a huge addition and our frontcourt is pretty set with he, Fielder and Cook next year. Mulready’s intriguing, he offers a power wing dimension that will be helpful especially once Styles graduates. Did he get a bunch of tattoos removed or is that some sort of Photoshop job?
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Post by TC on Nov 9, 2023 5:30:44 GMT -5
We now have a program that got everyone signed on day one of the signing period AND posted about it the same day to let us get excited about it.
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Post by dariantownesvanzandt on Nov 9, 2023 6:41:29 GMT -5
Epps, Brumbaugh, Mulready Styles, Bristol, McKenna, Williams, Cook Sorber, Mutombo, Fielder
That's a very promising 11 for next year. Another veteran guard from the portal would be tops on my list.
Unless we fall apart this season, that smells like a top half of the league squad right there.
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Post by dense on Nov 9, 2023 8:11:42 GMT -5
Epps, Brumbaugh, Mulready Styles, Bristol, McKenna, Williams, Cook Sorber, Mutombo, Fielder That's a very promising 11 for next year. Another veteran guard from the portal would be tops on my list. Unless we fall apart this season, that smells like a top half of the league squad right there. Yup the main need is a guard who is either a primary ballhandler or elite shooter. Transfer portal should have a senior or grad student type to fit that bill.
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Post by prhoya on Nov 9, 2023 9:05:23 GMT -5
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Post by seaweed on Nov 9, 2023 9:47:14 GMT -5
Congratulations to all involved - the staff, the recruits and everyone working to create this world class program for us to enjoy and to represent our school. We will be stacked next year w young talent and room to grow and get better / that’s what Coach is building.
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Post by MCIGuy on Nov 9, 2023 12:05:05 GMT -5
Epps, Brumbaugh, Mulready Styles, Bristol, McKenna, Williams, Cook Sorber, Mutombo, Fielder That's a very promising 11 for next year. Another veteran guard from the portal would be tops on my list. Unless we fall apart this season, that smells like a top half of the league squad right there.This is something I and possibly others pointed out weeks ago. I claimed that if we were able to hold onto the vital pieces and bring in the guys who were committed, we would be able to not only move into the top half of the Big East but be able to legitimately contend for the crown in YEAR TWO. My opinion wasn’t based on just my evaluation of the talent of the players on our roster, but by the very fact that most of the teams ahead of the Hoyas this season would be losing far too many of their own vital pieces. Marquette. Villanova. Providence. Creighton. And to some extent UConn. Their best guys? Pretty much all gone after this season is over. And none of them as of yet have as highly ranked a recruiting class as Georgetown to replace that talent immediately. Which means that outside of Heath, Georgetown could in theory keep all of its best guys while bringing in better reinforcements to boot. Sure, the transfer portal may play a factor in neutralizing that but as of now we can’t know which BE teams will benefit the most from that or whether if the Hoyas will perhaps hit another homerun on that end as well. My greatest wish (fantasy/dream) is that in tribute to the 40th anniversary of 1985 Big East, it will be Georgetown and St. John’s battling it out for the title.
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Post by blueandgray on Nov 9, 2023 12:52:14 GMT -5
On our way to a top 10 class.
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Post by Gammo on Nov 9, 2023 14:13:23 GMT -5
Epps, Brumbaugh, Mulready Styles, Bristol, McKenna, Williams, Cook Sorber, Mutombo, Fielder That's a very promising 11 for next year. Another veteran guard from the portal would be tops on my list. Unless we fall apart this season, that smells like a top half of the league squad right there.This is something I and possibly others pointed out weeks ago. I claimed that if we were able to hold onto the vital pieces and bring in the guys who were committed, we would be able to not only move into the top half of the Big East but be able to legitimately contend for the crown in YEAR TWO. My opinion wasn’t based on just my evaluation of the talent of the players on our roster, but by the very fact that most of the teams ahead of the Hoyas this season would be losing far too many of their own vital pieces. Marquette. Villanova. Providence. Creighton. And to some extent UConn. Their best guys? Pretty much all gone after this season is over. And none of them as of yet have as highly ranked a recruiting class as Georgetown to replace that talent immediately. Which means that outside of Heath, Georgetown could in theory keep all of its best guys while bringing in better reinforcements to boot. Sure, the transfer portal may play a factor in neutralizing that but as of now we can’t know which BE teams will benefit the most from that or whether if the Hoyas will perhaps hit another homerun on that end as well. My greatest wish (fantasy/dream) is that in tribute to the 40th anniversary of 1985 Big East, it will be Georgetown and St. John’s battling it out for the title. Great points!
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Post by hoyaboya on Nov 9, 2023 14:20:00 GMT -5
"Early Signing Day: Winners and Losers... WINNERS .... Georgetown Hoyas The Hoyas continue to get back on track in the wake of the less-than-stellar Patrick Ewing Era with a four-man recruiting class that shows plenty of improvement over the hauls assembled in the recent past. New head coach Ed Cooley’s first class is headlined by big man Thomas Sorber and point guard Kayvaun Mulready, who rank 54th and 55th in the class respectively. So while Georgetown isn’t where it wants to go from a recruiting perspective just yet, the change in perception is undeniable and should be seen as a major positive indicator for improvement under Cooley. It’ll be a long road back to true national prominence, but the first steps are being taken." basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/early-signing-day-winners-and-losers
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Post by thedragon on Dec 3, 2023 17:57:36 GMT -5
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Post by dariantownesvanzandt on Dec 28, 2023 21:30:25 GMT -5
Epps, Brumbaugh, Mulready Styles, Bristol, McKenna, Williams, Cook Sorber, Mutombo, Fielder That's a very promising 11 for next year. Another veteran guard from the portal would be tops on my list. Unless we fall apart this season, that smells like a top half of the league squad right there. I'm currently not any less hopeful about our outlook for next year, but certain things have definitely come into better focus since early November. - PG... need one. Epps probably shouldn't be one, and Rowan probably won't be ready to be our #1. - SF... Styles is very solid. If Bristol hangs around, he'll be a good backup. If not, McKenna, Williams, and Mulready should all be able to provide minutes there. - C... need one. Sorber, Fielder, and Mutombo may all be back... but there's not a definite starter in the bunch. Fielder would have to have a massive 2nd half this year to feel comfortable with just those three going into '25. I like him, but I don't see that happening. (And if you're thinking Sorber will be ready to be the guy, just take a peek at the production of Top 50-75 FR centers from the last couple of years) Even if we only win 3-5 games in conference, odds are an Epps/Styles/Cook threesome is still an attractive core at the 2/3/4. Attractive enough -- with the incoming talent + Cooley's likeability + a significant store of unused NIL(?) -- to lure a few bigger fish to those two key spots. But honestly -- the PG debacle may hold us back from having a much higher ceiling next year (and possibly '26). If Epps and/or Rowan showed enough this year to keep the job going forward, that continuity would've been so significant at the most important position on the floor. The idea that we'll need some short-term guys at the 1 and the 5 (2nd most important position) is a lot more daunting than just finding a playable, defensive-minded big.
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Post by prhoya on Dec 28, 2023 21:44:50 GMT -5
Epps, Brumbaugh, Mulready Styles, Bristol, McKenna, Williams, Cook Sorber, Mutombo, Fielder That's a very promising 11 for next year. Another veteran guard from the portal would be tops on my list. Unless we fall apart this season, that smells like a top half of the league squad right there. I'm currently not any less hopeful about our outlook for next year, but certain things have definitely come into better focus since early November. - PG... need one. Epps probably shouldn't be one, and Rowan probably won't be ready to be our #1. - SF... Styles is very solid. If Bristol hangs around, he'll be a good backup. If not, McKenna, Williams, and Mulready should all be able to provide minutes there. - C... need one. Sorber, Fielder, and Mutombo may all be back... but there's not a definite starter in the bunch. Fielder would have to have a massive 2nd half this year to feel comfortable with just those three going into '25. I like him, but I don't see that happening. (And if you're thinking Sorber will be ready to be the guy, just take a peek at the production of Top 50-75 FR centers from the last couple of years) Even if we only win 3-5 games in conference, odds are an Epps/Styles/Cook threesome is still an attractive core at the 2/3/4. Attractive enough -- with the incoming talent + Cooley's likeability + a significant store of unused NIL(?) -- to lure a few bigger fish to those two key spots. But honestly -- the PG debacle may hold us back from having a much higher ceiling next year (and possibly '26). If Epps and/or Rowan showed enough this year to keep the job going forward, that continuity would've been so significant at the most important position on the floor. The idea that we'll need some short-term guys at the 1 and the 5 (2nd most important position) is a lot more daunting than just finding a playable, defensive-minded big. I like the analysis, but the question remains whether the portal will remain open for the second transfers. If so, would some of ours leave after so much losing?
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Post by dariantownesvanzandt on Dec 28, 2023 21:56:07 GMT -5
I'm currently not any less hopeful about our outlook for next year, but certain things have definitely come into better focus since early November. - PG... need one. Epps probably shouldn't be one, and Rowan probably won't be ready to be our #1. - SF... Styles is very solid. If Bristol hangs around, he'll be a good backup. If not, McKenna, Williams, and Mulready should all be able to provide minutes there. - C... need one. Sorber, Fielder, and Mutombo may all be back... but there's not a definite starter in the bunch. Fielder would have to have a massive 2nd half this year to feel comfortable with just those three going into '25. I like him, but I don't see that happening. (And if you're thinking Sorber will be ready to be the guy, just take a peek at the production of Top 50-75 FR centers from the last couple of years) Even if we only win 3-5 games in conference, odds are an Epps/Styles/Cook threesome is still an attractive core at the 2/3/4. Attractive enough -- with the incoming talent + Cooley's likeability + a significant store of unused NIL(?) -- to lure a few bigger fish to those two key spots. But honestly -- the PG debacle may hold us back from having a much higher ceiling next year (and possibly '26). If Epps and/or Rowan showed enough this year to keep the job going forward, that continuity would've been so significant at the most important position on the floor. The idea that we'll need some short-term guys at the 1 and the 5 (2nd most important position) is a lot more daunting than just finding a playable, defensive-minded big. I like the analysis, but the question remains whether the portal will remain open for the second transfers. If so, would some of ours leave after so much losing? I think (hope?) there will be more clarity on that after the year. The current situation has been a mess. Surely there will be transfers. Some guys not getting minutes will go... but more importantly you hope Cooley can keep all the guys he wants to have a big role going forward. That's the key. Hopefully the guys that arrived this year knew what we were up against, and planned to be in it for the long haul. I'm sure Ed stressed that. Hopefully he didn't oversell it. Short of a pretty significant exodus, though, we'll be in a much better spot than we were at the end of last year when Cooley arrived.
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Post by tashoya on Dec 28, 2023 21:56:30 GMT -5
I'm not usually the silver lining guy but, in this case, all of our players on the current roster came into a pretty rough situation and knew exactly what they were getting into. It was always going to be a steep uphill climb. I can't imagine any of the guys are shocked at how things have gone so far (other than that awful non-call to lose us a game that we had won). As such, I'm less concerned about the losing being the primary reason to bolt. I also expect this group to continue to improve. Most of the newest Hoyas have said that they wanted to be a part of bringing Georgetown back. Bringing a program back doesn't happen in one year and it doesn't, typically, start with winning a whole bunch right out of the gate. My $.02.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Dec 28, 2023 23:53:26 GMT -5
I'm not usually the silver lining guy but, in this case, all of our players on the current roster came into a pretty rough situation and knew exactly what they were getting into. It was always going to be a steep uphill climb. I can't imagine any of the guys are shocked at how things have gone so far (other than that awful non-call to lose us a game that we had won). As such, I'm less concerned about the losing being the primary reason to bolt. I also expect this group to continue to improve. Most of the newest Hoyas have said that they wanted to be a part of bringing Georgetown back. Bringing a program back doesn't happen in one year and it doesn't, typically, start with winning a whole bunch right out of the gate. My $.02. Agreed. I know people have a tendency to be over optimistic, but I don't think anybody was predicting anything big for Georgetown this year. I also think people are used to the Ewing years where there was a significant exodus every year. I am not saying that can't happen, I just think it's much less likely. I also think we will have a much better sense in a few months. It's easy to forget we have only played 13 games. We have another 18 games of Big East play, and at least 1 more in the Big East Tournament. While I do not expect significant improvement, I do think we can improve and not embarass ourselves. If we can do that, plus pick off a few good wins, I think the feeling in March could be very different. Keep in mind if we beat Holy Cross and got the non-call against TCU, the Marquette embarassmnet notwithstanding, this season would feel a lot better.
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Post by jctnhoya4ever on Dec 29, 2023 10:35:09 GMT -5
I think Cooley needs to bring in 3 starters from transfer portal that can come in and start right away with Epps and styles. Fielder is improving he probably competes for starting pf. I would let brumbough come off the bench with the freshman and the other returning players. I think we have 2 players that should start, Epps and styles. We need good players from the portal for a couple years to the young guys are ready. You don’t have time to wait 2-3 years on recruits to develop you just have to bring in starters from portal this day and age in college basketball unless you want to miss ncaa tournament every other year. With the transfer portal the way it is you have to use it to succeed. I hope Cooley brings in 3 for next season at least. Go Hoyas.
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Post by kghoya on Dec 29, 2023 10:47:58 GMT -5
Keep in mind if we beat Holy Cross and got the non-call against TCU, the Marquette embarassmnet notwithstanding, this season would feel a lot better. Well if we are reversing close results, Georgetown could have easily lost to both American and Merrimack. Would it feel much better to swap out those results?
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