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Post by saxagael on Jan 7, 2023 19:01:57 GMT -5
Watching the last two or three games the defense is sort of doing a mix of man and zone with some odd switching. When Wahab is in his was mostly staying in the middle, but Brad was often playing out. Now Wahab is also defending out and teams are playing five out on offense against the Hoyas and running plays and motion off this. The big is out of position and continually moving, Brad isn't fully use to this and not exactly a small ball big, so is at a disadvantage. Wahab becomes a non-defensive factor and the Hoyas are playing four defending five.
Primo was moved off of defending the PG for the opposing team, which is good as he was getting beat on the drive on nearly every play or losing his man and getting shot over. Primo also really likes to help in the middle with makes for disasters for his man or space in a zone.
The opposing teams playing mostly five out, or four out with a roaming big has meant Hoyas middle is really soft. When opposing teams drive from a perimeter offense other players release to help in the middle, because the middle is soft. This leave two and most likely three Hoyas standing in the protected circle under the basket and the ball has whipped out to an open player on the wing for an open shot and the Hoya defender trying to close out far beyond any sane close out distance. One common defensive rule most coaches have is never have more than one foot inside the paint if you player is outside the three line (this is normal if defending a weak side player - as a skip pass to from strong side to weak can be closed out relatively easily and arrive as the ball arrives to keep a shot from being considered. Hoyas are playing with both freaking feet in the paint and never getting close to the player who just took a three shot.
I know quite a few college coaches who over the last 5 to 10 years complain about players not knowing basics when they arrive as freshmen and don't know the names of drills and common skills (which they may or may not have). But, college coaches are teaching the players the basics. That not only isn't happening at Georgetown at the moment, I'm seeing Murray and Anglin do this, which they didn't do prior to coming to Georgetown.
The Marquette game has a lot of players who Ewing didn't have interest in investing game time in now is with long minutes or starting and the switches and shifts the defense has been moving to are really rough and sometimes missed. At one point glaringly missed with all Hoyas are set facing out at the three line covering their space and the Marquette player is in the paint alone for an easy pass and dunk. You shouldn't be able to have that happen as a defender you have a man in your space or in front of you. But, new rotations and players not familiar with things in games there are going to be problems.
The other piece with the way the Hoyas have been playing defense is the opposing team is pretty much selecting where they are going to manufacture a mismatch. Since Pickett left there hasn't been a player in the back of the defense calling out adjustments in front of them. Ryan does that insanely well, but that earned him a bench plaque he needs to shine. Akok has done it, but not fully sure where defenders should be and he often out on a wing or up top defending. Anglin is calling adjustments from the top, which he shouldn't be seeing things he is. Opposing coaches know the shifts and rotations and taking advantage of them with ease in the second half (if not earlier).
I really want to go back and watch again to see what on earth is going on with defense. A lot of it isn't making sense.
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Post by iowa80 on Jan 7, 2023 19:39:07 GMT -5
Watching the last two or three games the defense is sort of doing a mix of man and zone with some odd switching. When Wahab is in his was mostly staying in the middle, but Brad was often playing out. Now Wahab is also defending out and teams are playing five out on offense against the Hoyas and running plays and motion off this. The big is out of position and continually moving, Brad isn't fully use to this and not exactly a small ball big, so is at a disadvantage. Wahab becomes a non-defensive factor and the Hoyas are playing four defending five. Primo was moved off of defending the PG for the opposing team, which is good as he was getting beat on the drive on nearly every play or losing his man and getting shot over. Primo also really likes to help in the middle with makes for disasters for his man or space in a zone. The opposing teams playing mostly five out, or four out with a roaming big has meant Hoyas middle is really soft. When opposing teams drive from a perimeter offense other players release to help in the middle, because the middle is soft. This leave two and most likely three Hoyas standing in the protected circle under the basket and the ball has whipped out to an open player on the wing for an open shot and the Hoya defender trying to close out far beyond any sane close out distance. One common defensive rule most coaches have is never have more than one foot inside the paint if you player is outside the three line (this is normal if defending a weak side player - as a skip pass to from strong side to weak can be closed out relatively easily and arrive as the ball arrives to keep a shot from being considered. Hoyas are playing with both freaking feet in the paint and never getting close to the player who just took a three shot. I know quite a few college coaches who over the last 5 to 10 years complain about players not knowing basics when they arrive as freshmen and don't know the names of drills and common skills (which they may or may not have). But, college coaches are teaching the players the basics. That not only isn't happening at Georgetown at the moment, I'm seeing Murray and Anglin do this, which they didn't do prior to coming to Georgetown. The Marquette game has a lot of players who Ewing didn't have interest in investing game time in now is with long minutes or starting and the switches and shifts the defense has been moving to are really rough and sometimes missed. At one point glaringly missed with all Hoyas are set facing out at the three line covering their space and the Marquette player is in the paint alone for an easy pass and dunk. You shouldn't be able to have that happen as a defender you have a man in your space or in front of you. But, new rotations and players not familiar with things in games there are going to be problems. The other piece with the way the Hoyas have been playing defense is the opposing team is pretty much selecting where they are going to manufacture a mismatch. Since Pickett left there hasn't been a player in the back of the defense calling out adjustments in front of them. Ryan does that insanely well, but that earned him a bench plaque he needs to shine. Akok has done it, but not fully sure where defenders should be and he often out on a wing or up top defending. Anglin is calling adjustments from the top, which he shouldn't be seeing things he is. Opposing coaches know the shifts and rotations and taking advantage of them with ease in the second half (if not earlier). I really want to go back and watch again to see what on earth is going on with defense. A lot of it isn't making sense. I appreciate these insights, and I understand that we were shorthanded today. Still, question number 1 for me is the number of open looks--underneath, middle, outside--that we give up. They seem to transcend whatever scheme we have. I'm willing to believe that teaching is sorely lacking, but execution by the players is up there too.
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saxagael
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Post by saxagael on Jan 7, 2023 20:55:47 GMT -5
Watching the last two or three games the defense is sort of doing a mix of man and zone with some odd switching. When Wahab is in his was mostly staying in the middle, but Brad was often playing out. Now Wahab is also defending out and teams are playing five out on offense against the Hoyas and running plays and motion off this. The big is out of position and continually moving, Brad isn't fully use to this and not exactly a small ball big, so is at a disadvantage. Wahab becomes a non-defensive factor and the Hoyas are playing four defending five. Primo was moved off of defending the PG for the opposing team, which is good as he was getting beat on the drive on nearly every play or losing his man and getting shot over. Primo also really likes to help in the middle with makes for disasters for his man or space in a zone. The opposing teams playing mostly five out, or four out with a roaming big has meant Hoyas middle is really soft. When opposing teams drive from a perimeter offense other players release to help in the middle, because the middle is soft. This leave two and most likely three Hoyas standing in the protected circle under the basket and the ball has whipped out to an open player on the wing for an open shot and the Hoya defender trying to close out far beyond any sane close out distance. One common defensive rule most coaches have is never have more than one foot inside the paint if you player is outside the three line (this is normal if defending a weak side player - as a skip pass to from strong side to weak can be closed out relatively easily and arrive as the ball arrives to keep a shot from being considered. Hoyas are playing with both freaking feet in the paint and never getting close to the player who just took a three shot. I know quite a few college coaches who over the last 5 to 10 years complain about players not knowing basics when they arrive as freshmen and don't know the names of drills and common skills (which they may or may not have). But, college coaches are teaching the players the basics. That not only isn't happening at Georgetown at the moment, I'm seeing Murray and Anglin do this, which they didn't do prior to coming to Georgetown. The Marquette game has a lot of players who Ewing didn't have interest in investing game time in now is with long minutes or starting and the switches and shifts the defense has been moving to are really rough and sometimes missed. At one point glaringly missed with all Hoyas are set facing out at the three line covering their space and the Marquette player is in the paint alone for an easy pass and dunk. You shouldn't be able to have that happen as a defender you have a man in your space or in front of you. But, new rotations and players not familiar with things in games there are going to be problems. The other piece with the way the Hoyas have been playing defense is the opposing team is pretty much selecting where they are going to manufacture a mismatch. Since Pickett left there hasn't been a player in the back of the defense calling out adjustments in front of them. Ryan does that insanely well, but that earned him a bench plaque he needs to shine. Akok has done it, but not fully sure where defenders should be and he often out on a wing or up top defending. Anglin is calling adjustments from the top, which he shouldn't be seeing things he is. Opposing coaches know the shifts and rotations and taking advantage of them with ease in the second half (if not earlier). I really want to go back and watch again to see what on earth is going on with defense. A lot of it isn't making sense. I appreciate these insights, and I understand that we were shorthanded today. Still, question number 1 for me is the number of open looks--underneath, middle, outside--that we give up. There seem to transcend whatever scheme we have. I'm willing to believe that teaching is sorely lacking, but execution by the players is up there too. A lot of the open looks come from players helping defend because there are players who aren't good defenders. Govan needed help, which usually most often drew Marcus Derrickson in to help and there was no rotation to cover nor shade Marcus man, so his man often got the ball and Marcus was flying out to cover a three shooter. When Bradley was at center no help was needed as he could hold his own. Wahab and Tim both have needed help. But the big problem with Ewing's man defense in past years has been the opposing teams run the offensive player the Hoyas' top shooters cover all over the court through multiple picks and screens to wear them down so they can't shoot well. This often lead to the player caught in a pick or screen (after Pickett left nobody was calling out picks and Harris was getting pummeled) and losing their man so they are wide open, a Hoya defender my come to help and cover, but then their man is wide open and three pointers. Other teams running picks and screen of man created a lot of openings, but also having Ewing keep players on the bench and have a short rotation players weren't fresh and coverages didn't happen. The current team has issues with Primo's defense and Wahab. The quasi zone man shift they currently run worked well in the first half of the Marquette game, but the Eagles were driving and hitting Akok sliding into the middle and completely disrupting easy baskets inside. Ryan plays the same way with length, good ball IQ, and disrupting (full court up and down he isn't the fastest, but Hoyas aren't running that much). Wahab isn't a disrupter, the past two or three games he as been getting to the right spot and set properly to handle this and it is working a bit. Akok is the Derrickson on the current team helping in and out. Murray has been doing that a ton as well, mostly covering for Primo. Murray also covers for Primo. JTIII era the wide open threes didn't really start until Govan was playing a lot and he needed help. But, Peak was also an issue defending, he could be a good defender if he wanted to, but he didn't every put in effort (he also didn't ever really tie his shoes so had a shuffle run down the court. There were a few times teammates would call him out on this with swearing included, which was funny and yet not. Peak was really talented and had really good BB IQ, but always seemed bored with the game, but also had nagging injuries. A coach should craft a defense based on the skills and capabilities of the team. This really hasn't been done under Ewing as players who are defensive liability like McClung and Blair who got a lot of playing time it gets tough. Ewing has always talked about a solid defense that would press then push in transition for threes and easy baskets. But, that isn't remotely possible when you have players who aren't decent defensively. Blair was like Primo is now with not much defensive interest nor effort and loses their man easily. Strict zone or pack line don't help the offense run a high tempo transition offense, but not having defenders who are solid you can't lean on man. Really need someone who understands many different types of play and can adjust style to fit the talent, unless you have years of recruiting and even red shirting (with players fine with that) to get players that fit the style of play.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 8, 2023 8:21:36 GMT -5
A coach should craft a defense based on the skills and capabilities of the team. This really hasn't been done under Ewing as players who are defensive liability like McClung and Blair who got a lot of playing time it gets tough. Ewing has always talked about a solid defense that would press then push in transition for threes and easy baskets. But, that isn't remotely possible when you have players who aren't decent defensively. Blair was like Primo is now with not much defensive interest nor effort and loses their man easily. Strict zone or pack line don't help the offense run a high tempo transition offense, but not having defenders who are solid you can't lean on man. Really need someone who understands many different types of play and can adjust style to fit the talent, unless you have years of recruiting and even red shirting (with players fine with that) to get players that fit the style of play. I agree with much of your post, but I do think it's important to note that our awful defense transcends our players and their talent: - After Marquette, we are ranked 284 overall on defense. For all their faults, I do not think we have the 284th worst players on defense based on pure skill and athleticism. - On three point defense, we are ranked 313 out of 363 programs. - On two point defense, we are ranked 260 out of 363 programs. - On defense, we are ranked 260 out of 363 on getting steals. - On defensive rebounding rate, we are ranked 237 out of 363. - On defense, in forcing turnovers we are 305 out of 363. We are so, so poor in all facets of the defensive game (except blocks), it is hard to fathom just how bad we are. I would argue that a better coach could take these same exact players and drastically improve all of these numbers within a year. I bet a Pitino type could take our 284th ranked defense and make it a top 100 defense in a year, even with the exact same players. A defense only gets this bad if it is extremely broken. And so far, our defense in Big East games has been really bad and continues to decline with each game. Though, we have fallen so far, it's hard to imagine us falling very much farther, though we keep seeming to defy that obstacle. The five worst conferences are listed below, with how many teams are better ranked than us on defense: Northeast Conference: 3 teams with better defensive rankings. SWAC: 6 teams with better defensive rankings. Southland Conference: 3 teams with better defensive rankings. Ohio Valley Conference: 5 teams with better defensive rankings. MEAC: 5 teams with better defensive rankings. For what it's worth, while the Ivy League is way better than these conferences we are now at the point where all 8 teams have better ranked defense than Georgetown, and 6 of the 8 are ranked higher than us overall. Even Brown, at 216, is now ranked higher than us. We are clearly underachieving the level of our player's abilities substantially.
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Post by calhoya on Jan 8, 2023 15:10:44 GMT -5
I agree that there is something fundamentally wrong with the defense and the coaching going on. After watching the beginning of the 2nd half, three straight times Marquette hit open 3s . Each time the same player—Bristol—appears to be late on the close out or screened out of guarding the shooter. How is this happening again and again and with different players? Bristol had a good game otherwise but clearly the good disappears when you are missing defensive assignments.
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Post by iowa80 on Jan 8, 2023 15:33:21 GMT -5
I agree that there is something fundamentally wrong with the defense and the coaching going on. After watching the beginning of the 2nd half, three straight times Marquette hit open 3s . Each time the same player—Bristol—appears to be late on the close out or screened out of guarding the shooter. How is this happening again and again and with different players? Bristol had a good game otherwise but clearly the good disappears when you are missing defensive assignments. When a player just backs into the paint and leaves someone open for an uncontested three—as happened during this sequence—I find it hard to believe that this is coached. I am not saying that this is not a poorly coached team on both ends. I am saying that a number of these defensive lapses implicate the players as well.
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Post by calhoya on Jan 8, 2023 15:58:08 GMT -5
I agree that there is something fundamentally wrong with the defense and the coaching going on. After watching the beginning of the 2nd half, three straight times Marquette hit open 3s . Each time the same player—Bristol—appears to be late on the close out or screened out of guarding the shooter. How is this happening again and again and with different players? Bristol had a good game otherwise but clearly the good disappears when you are missing defensive assignments. When a player just backs into the paint and leaves someone open for an uncontested three—as happened during this sequence—I find it hard to believe that this is coached. I am not saying that this is not a poorly coached team on both ends. I am saying that a number of these defensive lapses implicate the players as well. Clearly you are right that some of this is on the players. However, when the same mistakes occur from year to year and with different players you have to believe that there is some issue with the scheme or the coaching. In Bristol’s case it could be a lack of playing time but wide open 3s and late close outs are not limited to end of rotation players.
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Post by bills on Jan 8, 2023 16:21:47 GMT -5
What I struggle with is the difference in defensive results in the first half from that in the second half. If it was 1 or 2 games where the opponent shot poorly in the first half and then lights out in the second half, I say Georgetown was lucky in the first half that the opponent was missing their shots and the second half was the true form. But it is not just 1 or 2 games. How many of our games did we lead at the half and get blown out in the second half? That lead was not just hot shooting by us in the first half, it was also most of our opponents held below their average in field goal and 3 pt percentages. And the results were inverted in the second half.
Is it fatigue from starters playing too many minutes? We have been in most of the games, only trailing by less than 10 points, after 30 minutes, and blown out in the last 10 minutes. This was against some good teams - UCONN at home, Villanova, Marquette at home. Changing the defensive scheme will not offset fatigue, if that is the major factor.
Are other coaches making half tome adjustments that we are not or cannot respond to defensively? If it was that easy, and there is lots of video on our first half results and our second half results, why didn’t those coaches put those changes in before tipoff?
I don’t know what our turnover numbers for each half are but in yesterday’s game Marquette was getting easy layups off put turnovers. I think it can be hard to get fired up to play really tough defense when your opponent is getting easy baskets off sloppy and lazy turnovers and you see the game getting out of reach. Not going to win many games when you have 20 turnovers even if you have 23 assists and shoot 50%.
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Post by vv83 on Jan 8, 2023 17:37:39 GMT -5
I wish I could say that we are in fairly close games until halftime most of the time because we are playing well in the first half. But I think most of our "good" first halves are largely the result of opponents playing sloppy, unfocused basketball on both ends of the court. at halftime - the opposing coaches motivate their guys to wake up and play hard, and make a couple of adjustments after seeing our horrific schemes in action for 30 minutes. Opponents come out of the locker room angry and fired up, start playing harder and with more focus - and easily blow us out. We are completely unable to compete with a remotely talented team that is playing their hardest. Once we realize the other team is going to really put up a fight, we fold quickly - giving up one of our patented 20-4 type runs, and the ballgame is over.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 8, 2023 18:29:01 GMT -5
I wish I could say that we are in fairly close games until halftime most of the time because we are playing well in the first half. But I think most of our "good" first halves are largely the result of opponents playing sloppy, unfocused basketball on both ends of the court. at halftime - the opposing coaches motivate their guys to wake up and play hard, and make a couple of adjustments after seeing our horrific schemes in action for 30 minutes. Opponents come out of the locker room angry and fired up, start playing harder and with more focus - and easily blow us out. We are completely unable to compete with a remotely talented team that is playing their hardest. Once we realize the other team is going to really put up a fight, we fold quickly - giving up one of our patented 20-4 type runs, and the ballgame is over. If I were playing Gtown, I would just play at an extremely fast pace and wear down our limited roster. By the second half we’re a step slow and shots fall short. Game over.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 8, 2023 18:41:59 GMT -5
It is true that our defense has been worse in the second half in the Big East season. I just ran the stats. We give up, on average 1.13 points per possesion in the first half thus far, and 1.36 in the second half. Keep in mind this is a small sample, and thus it's hard to say for sure. Like yesterday, for example, Marquette went 2-14 in the first half from three despite having wide open looks consistently (the hallmark of bad defense). And so, one might think we played good defense in the first half, when in reality, Marquette had the same wide open shots it had in the second half, but the shots fell.
Also, in 2 of our 6 Big East games, the defense actually gave up MORE points per possession in the first half (Connecticut and Butler). But, three of our second halves have been close to historic blowouts (1.52 ppp against Xavier, 1.67 against Butler, and 1.65 against Marquette).
I would caution too much emphasis on any of this right now since it's such a small sample. I do think a major factor is that coaches adjust, we don't, and then they exploit whatever it is we are doing on defense.
But, the most important point - while our second halves have been abysmal, giving up 1.13 points per first half on average is still REALLY BAD. In conference games, overall we are giving up 1.21 ppp, and the next closest is St. John's at 1.09. So, even our "better" halves are still worse than the 10th worst defense in the Big East.
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Post by vv83 on Jan 8, 2023 19:28:09 GMT -5
I wish I could say that we are in fairly close games until halftime most of the time because we are playing well in the first half. But I think most of our "good" first halves are largely the result of opponents playing sloppy, unfocused basketball on both ends of the court. at halftime - the opposing coaches motivate their guys to wake up and play hard, and make a couple of adjustments after seeing our horrific schemes in action for 30 minutes. Opponents come out of the locker room angry and fired up, start playing harder and with more focus - and easily blow us out. We are completely unable to compete with a remotely talented team that is playing their hardest. Once we realize the other team is going to really put up a fight, we fold quickly - giving up one of our patented 20-4 type runs, and the ballgame is over. If I were playing Gtown, I would just play at an extremely fast pace and wear down our limited roster. By the second half we’re a step slow and shots fall short. Game over. I think the "starters play too much" factor is a bit of a red herring - it is part of the issue, but I think the bigger issue is the mental toughnesss of the team. Which is in large part a result of the coaches leaving them utterly unprepared (schematically or emotionally) to compete with any halfway decent team that plays with full intensity and competent coaching. I'm sure fatigue is part of it. But the big runs sometimes some early in the second half, well before the starters should be exhausted. Lots of teams play their guys lots of minutes without the team collapsing almost every second half. There is a much deeper issue than tired starters going on here.
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Post by calhoya on Jan 8, 2023 21:08:36 GMT -5
I think a large part of the problem is that when opposing teams make a run apparently the coach has given Primo and Murray and maybe even Heath permission/freedom to unilaterally try to make plays in isolated matchups. This is often used in the NBA except they actually run iso plays with clear outs. There is no appearance that Primo’s version of “my turn” ball is a play that is called on the sideline as there is no clearout and often he is running up against double teams inside the arc. Ditto for Murray. Somehow Ewing has confused making highly contested shots with an actual offensive scheme. When the selfish play leads to a couple of bad TOs or badly missed shots it snowballs and next thing we have a blowout with even less defensive effort than normal.
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Post by bills on Jan 8, 2023 21:44:54 GMT -5
I wish I could say that we are in fairly close games until halftime most of the time because we are playing well in the first half. But I think most of our "good" first halves are largely the result of opponents playing sloppy, unfocused basketball on both ends of the court. at halftime - the opposing coaches motivate their guys to wake up and play hard, and make a couple of adjustments after seeing our horrific schemes in action for 30 minutes. Opponents come out of the locker room angry and fired up, start playing harder and with more focus - and easily blow us out. We are completely unable to compete with a remotely talented team that is playing their hardest. Once we realize the other team is going to really put up a fight, we fold quickly - giving up one of our patented 20-4 type runs, and the ballgame is over. How many games are needed where the same thing happens before our first half leads are not just sloppy play by our opponent?
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Post by Problem of Dog on Jan 9, 2023 23:17:47 GMT -5
We have a strategy?
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 9, 2023 23:41:01 GMT -5
Yes, Move & Rebound. I believe that’s it.
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Post by Elvado on Jan 10, 2023 8:00:49 GMT -5
I must say that there has been defensive improvement.
We excel at getting made shots out of the net…
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Post by 78HOYA78 on Jan 10, 2023 9:34:36 GMT -5
Observation: How does a team get a wide open dunk when we are in a zone. Anglin (get confidence in your shot), Bass, Bristol, and Riley should have gotten a lot more minutes in the non-conference schedule because I see improvements with this group. Even Mureason should get some run. Not sure what to think about what's going on with Mutombo.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 10, 2023 10:22:22 GMT -5
Observation: How does a team get a wide open dunk when we are in a zone. Anglin (get confidence in your shot), Bass, Bristol, and Riley should have gotten a lot more minutes in the non-conference schedule because I see improvements with this group. Even Mureason should get some run. Not sure what to think about what's going on with Mutombo. Of course, the answer is that our defense is beyond abysmal. Frankly, I see the stats of just how bad we are, and it's hard to fathom how we get there. We have been ranked in the 280s on defense, our players are clearly better than this. But, it often makes me wonder whether, if we had absolutely no head coach at all, our players would play better defense. I feel like we are playing at a level less than the sum of our parts. I know I have been beating this drum, but our guys clearly have no idea what to do on defense. They don't know where to position themselves, they don't know what rotations to make, they don't know when to help or not, etc. This is true in our man to man, it's true in our zone. It's just a huge mess. They need coaching on fundamentals of team defense.
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Post by iowa80 on Jan 10, 2023 13:19:08 GMT -5
Observation: How does a team get a wide open dunk when we are in a zone. Anglin (get confidence in your shot), Bass, Bristol, and Riley should have gotten a lot more minutes in the non-conference schedule because I see improvements with this group. Even Mureason should get some run. Not sure what to think about what's going on with Mutombo. Of course, the answer is that our defense is beyond abysmal. Frankly, I see the stats of just how bad we are, and it's hard to fathom how we get there. We have been ranked in the 280s on defense, our players are clearly better than this. But, it often makes me wonder whether, if we had absolutely no head coach at all, our players would play better defense. I feel like we are playing at a level less than the sum of our parts. I know I have been beating this drum, but our guys clearly have no idea what to do on defense. They don't know where to position themselves, they don't know what rotations to make, they don't know when to help or not, etc. This is true in our man to man, it's true in our zone. It's just a huge mess. They need coaching on fundamentals of team defense. It all falls on Pat. Let’s get that out of the way. But to be this bad, there has to be a perfect storm of ineptitude, from assistants who must not be assisting to some players who have reached college without a personal clue of basic defensive concepts.
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