Georgetown - St Johns 2/3/22 Discussion

[DanMcQ]

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[hoyaroc]

Sounds good to me. Let’s go Hoyas!

[hoyaatheart55]

Hope they fill the joint and blow the roof off it (figuratively)

[hoyaboya]

Jan 30, 2022 23:58:16 GMT -5 hoyaatheart55 said:

Hope they fill the joint and blow the roof off it (figuratively)

If the students really want to protest, which some have claimed is going to happen post-PE Jr. podcast interview last week, a brilliant move would be to pick up the allotted tickets and then no-show the game. It would speak volumes to the college basketballl world watching on FS1 to see an empty high school-quality gymnasium for Georgetown-St. John's. That would be a classier way for the students to show dissatisfaction compared to booing the team or starting "Fire Ewing" chants, which we saw occur at the end of the JT3 era.

[tafkashfsee]

Jan 31, 2022 11:55:04 GMT -5 hoyaboya said:

Jan 30, 2022 23:58:16 GMT -5 hoyaatheart55 said:

Hope they fill the joint and blow the roof off it (figuratively)

If the students really want to protest, which some have claimed is going to happen post-PE Jr. podcast interview last week, a brilliant move would be to pick up the allotted tickets and then no-show the game. It would speak volumes to the college basketballl world watching on FS1 to see an empty high school-quality gymnasium for Georgetown-St. John's. That would be a classier way for the students to show dissatisfaction compared to booing the team or starting "Fire Ewing" chants, which we saw occur at the end of the JT3 era.

You guys don't come to the games anyway (students or alumni) so what difference does it make?  You don't come when Georgetown's winning or when they are losing.  I bet you a million dollars you won't show up on campus Hoyaboya and the student body wont either.  When Georgetown becomes relevant again, then the people in DC and Maryland will come to the games but you won't.  When the last time you been to a Hoyas game Hoyaboya?

[hoyaroc]

Jan 31, 2022 11:55:04 GMT -5 hoyaboya said:

Jan 30, 2022 23:58:16 GMT -5 hoyaatheart55 said:

Hope they fill the joint and blow the roof off it (figuratively)

If the students really want to protest, which some have claimed is going to happen post-PE Jr. podcast interview last week, a brilliant move would be to pick up the allotted tickets and then no-show the game. It would speak volumes to the college basketballl world watching on FS1 to see an empty high school-quality gymnasium for Georgetown-St. John's. That would be a classier way for the students to show dissatisfaction compared to booing the team or starting "Fire Ewing" chants, which we saw occur at the end of the JT3 era.

Boya your life is really miserable. Did someone steal your girlfriend or wife? Get a life dude.

[guru]

Jan 31, 2022 11:55:04 GMT -5 hoyaboya said:

Jan 30, 2022 23:58:16 GMT -5 hoyaatheart55 said:

Hope they fill the joint and blow the roof off it (figuratively)

If the students really want to protest, which some have claimed is going to happen post-PE Jr. podcast interview last week, a brilliant move would be to pick up the allotted tickets and then no-show the game. It would speak volumes to the college basketballl world watching on FS1 to see an empty high school-quality gymnasium for Georgetown-St. John's. That would be a classier way for the students to show dissatisfaction compared to booing the team or starting "Fire Ewing" chants, which we saw occur at the end of the JT3 era.

This sounds like someone who didn’t go to a school with any athletic programs. Otherwise you’d know that the vast majority of students could care less what the record is or what the future of the program holds. A game on campus is a chance to have a blast with your friends while watching your schoolmates play. Not everyone shares your very specific agenda. For some - especially students and especially in a special circumstance like this one is - it’s just about having a good time and making memories.

[TC]

That's not cool. I can understand not opening things up till now due to Omicron, but make it equal.

[DanMcQ]

[RockawayHoya]

Need to find an opponent that will have an off-shooting night, play lax defensively, and fail to crash the boards to have a chance.

Unfortunately, most BE teams won't do more than 1 of the 3 on a given night while we'll do at least 2 if not all 3.

[bamahoya11]

This game and the two DePaul games are probably our three best chances to get a win this year. If the students create a lively atmosphere, it certainly wouldn’t hurt. That said, I don’t think St. John’s is a great matchup for us. Their defense is built on forcing turnovers, and our offense doesn’t have much control. The turnovers overwhelmed our chances in the first game in New York. Our offense is better than our defense, but we haven’t shown much ability to do well under pressure. If we can limit turnovers, St. John’s isn’t a great team. We would have a chance to win. I don’t know if I see that happening, though. Plus, the cumulative losses have to be weighing on this team. I credit the players for continuing to fight through several closer losses. At some point, though, I think they will struggle to play with any intensity if they aren’t getting any wins.

[hoyalove4ever]

Keep fighting Hoyas! In spite of all the pain this year has brought, I am looking forward to this game and hope that we can get a win.

[hoyaroc]

Hoya Saxa! Sounds good need a win real bad.

[daveg023]

Feb 2, 2022 0:29:49 GMT -5 RockawayHoya said:

Need to find an opponent that will have an off-shooting night, play lax defensively, and fail to crash the boards to have a chance.

Unfortunately, most BE teams won't do more than 1 of the 3 on a given night while we'll do at least 2 if not all 3.

Despite all the issues these last 5 years, rebounding and FT shooting were always strengths. This year those things have failed us (along with the regular ills), so it’s not been a recipe for success.

[johnnysnowplow]

We already lost to these guys by 20. You generally get a few points for home court advantage but not 20. St. John’s is a bad matchup for us all over the court. I don’t see the optimism that some others see that we actually have a chance in this game.

I hope I’m wrong for the players’ sake. But I’m not hopeful.

[hoya9797]

It seemed there was actual evidence that visiting teams had an especially difficult time shooting in McD last year. The hope defense is hopeless but maybe the McD effect will keep some of the wide open threes from connecting.

[daveg023]

Feb 2, 2022 8:49:53 GMT -5 hoya9797 said:

It seemed there was actual evidence that visiting teams had an especially difficult time shooting in McD last year. The hope defense is hopeless but maybe the McD effect will keep some of the wide open threes from connecting.

This was true. Also the half splits were quite extreme too. I think teams shooting towards the front doors fared much better than going the other way.

[drquigley]

Watching this game will be like watching a train wreck. You feel for the people in the trains but are fascinated by the force of the collision. The ingredients are all there. Dispirited team. Disgusted coach. Angry student fans. Crummy old gym. And national TV audience. Curious to see how FS1 and the game broadcasters deal with the ugliness that might ensue. Will be very hard to ignore the sounds coming from the bleachers.

[practice]

Feb 2, 2022 10:56:30 GMT -5 drquigley said:

Watching this game will be like watching a train wreck. You feel for the people in the trains but are fascinated by the force of the collision. The ingredients are all there. Dispirited team. Disgusted coach. Angry student fans. Crummy old gym. And national TV audience. Curious to see how FS1 and the game broadcasters deal with the ugliness that might ensue. Will be very hard to ignore the sounds coming from the bleachers.

I'm guessing it will be a great crowd -- much better than bitter old men like myself who are re-living their glory days.   There's definitely a core of students -- including the band -- that are generally providing positive cheering at the games.   To someone else's point above, this is also a great college experience for students to pack McDonough and go crazy.   I don't know too many current students who are huge basketball fans.  There might be one or two on here, but the griping -- again including from me - generally comes from alumni.

St. John's did crush Seton Hall in a rare on campus game in Walsh Gymnasium on January 24th similarly in front of 1,360 enthused Seton Hall students.   I'm sure that most of those students will remember fondly the game on campus -- even if their team ended up on the wrong side of winning.

I'm sure alumni like the doofus with the Hire Pitino sign at last night's game will increasingly behave poorly at home games if the Hoyas keep losing.   Ultimately the 18 to 22 year old young men on the team will hear the criticism more clearly than Ewing -- he's a former Knick for goodness sake.   Barring a turnaround, it's inevitably going to get worse ... but hopefully Thursday night will be a respite from the overall season and a welcome McDonough memory.  

[drquigley]

Feb 2, 2022 11:38:37 GMT -5 practice said:

Feb 2, 2022 10:56:30 GMT -5 drquigley said:

Watching this game will be like watching a train wreck. You feel for the people in the trains but are fascinated by the force of the collision. The ingredients are all there. Dispirited team. Disgusted coach. Angry student fans. Crummy old gym. And national TV audience. Curious to see how FS1 and the game broadcasters deal with the ugliness that might ensue. Will be very hard to ignore the sounds coming from the bleachers.

I'm guessing it will be a great crowd -- much better than bitter old men like myself who are re-living their glory days.   There's definitely a core of students -- including the band -- that are generally providing positive cheering at the games.   To someone else's point above, this is also a great college experience for students to pack McDonough and go crazy.   I don't know too many current students who are huge basketball fans.  There might be one or two on here, but the griping -- again including from me - generally comes from alumni.

St. John's did crush Seton Hall in a rare on campus game in Walsh Gymnasium on January 24th similarly in front of 1,360 enthused Seton Hall students.   I'm sure that most of those students will remember fondly the game on campus -- even if their team ended up on the wrong side of winning.

I'm sure alumni like the doofus with the Hire Pitino sign at last night's game will increasingly behave poorly at home games if the Hoyas keep losing.   Ultimately the 18 to 22 year old young men on the team will hear the criticism more clearly than Ewing -- he's a former Knick for goodness sake.   Barring a turnaround, it's inevitably going to get worse ... but hopefully Thursday night will be a respite from the overall season and a welcome McDonough memory.  

Good points. I wonder though if it bodes better for the basketball program to have students supporting Ewing tomorrow night or booing him? Right now what is the best way to turn this program around? I'm not saying that students should pack the place and boo Ewing from the start of the game. Of course they should be cheering the team on. But if we are clearly being outplayed mid way through the second half and are down 15-20 is passively sitting there or just leaving early sending the right signal to Ewing and most importantly the GU administration? To me it says to the administration that the students aren't passionate about GU basketball and we can just accept losing seasons into the future. Whereas students reacting to a debacle on the court tomorrow night by booing would tell the GU administration to consider making major changes to the basketball program.