SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 4, 2022 16:56:47 GMT -5
The attendance for the Villanova game at Cap One was almost 12,000. If Covid spread is a concern for the game at McDonough, it should be an equal concern for games at Cap One. Why does McDonough have a separate set of attendance rules? Because Monumental Sports & Entertainment (Ted Leonsis) sets its own covid protocol rules for Cap One while Jack DeGioia and GU Administration sets their own rules for on-campus events. I infer that GU seeks to be more restrictive regarding its students on-campus.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Feb 4, 2022 17:38:09 GMT -5
The issue here, as it is so often, is one of communication. We can agree or disagree about the rationale for restrictive measures on campus (as opposed to those at Cap One or anywhere else) but once the decision was made to permit students but at a lower capacity, it created a PR opportunity that naturally was not taken.
You get accurate information out to students (and everyone else via social media) about the policy and its application to the game. And then you tell the TV folks why the place is half empty...you tell them it's the largest gathering on campus in ages and that students are thrilled to be able to take part...blah, blah, blah.
It ain't rocket science. (But then again, we know that Georgetown's strength isn't in the hard sciences....)
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Post by wrestlemania on Feb 4, 2022 19:11:06 GMT -5
At this point I wonder whether the underclassmen really think there is anything to look forward to. "Building a foundation" rings a little hollow when you've only won six games, zero in-conference. And by now they must know Ewing is on thin ice, so who's going to be doing the building? The only way to take the edge off this is to make a quick and decisive move towards hiring a new head coach, if indeed Ewing is out. Given the "process" surrounding the Ewing hire, I'm not optimistic.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 4, 2022 19:18:50 GMT -5
Watching yet another losses, it is not about the record. I coached many years and my success was based on the answer to the question, 'Are your players better at the end of the season than they were at the beginning?' Watching the play today, how frustrating this much be for the coaches. At the time outs, Coach imploring the players "ok, when you set a pick you need to step off after contact and look for the pass or the rebound!" The players either don't get it or have no interest in listening. Rebounds taken away, open shots not contested. One memory that will be hard to shake was three hoyas under the basket for a break away lay up and all three fail to put the ball in the basket. Three shots within two feet, and SJU gets the rebound. What do you do? I don't think it is Ewing, it is the team he has, they are individually very talented as a team they fail no matter what they do. Yes it is time for a reset. I know Coach Ewing knows this far better than anyone. Count me out of blaming the roster. Is this a group that is top 25 talent? No. But, are we playing up to our talent level? Absolutely not. If we were a well coached, but limited roster that tried hard, played with good ball IQ, and was simply limited by talent deficiencies, then fine. But, that is not what is happening here. I am not saying that a Hall of Fame coach would make this group Sweet 16 contenders, but I do think a better coaching staff would certainly win games in the Big East. While not the most talented roster we have had, there is no way the current staff is getting the maximum out of our guys. Just watch them. They are being put into a "system" (if one can even call it that) that is not well suited for them, they are receiving coaching on defense that has them well below average in all of Division 1, and the offensive system is not functioning well. I truly believe that a better coach could take these pieces and make a lot more out of it. Again, maybe not a top 25 group, but not 0-9 either. I am tired of the roster excuse. Does anybody who watched the Butler game think we are less talented or athletic? I don't. Is Dartmouth more talented than us? How about St. Josephs? Right now, our roster is being failed by its leadership, and I truly feel bad for our guys. They deserve better. Why say, "The players either don't get it or have no interest in listening." Isn't a third option that Ewing and the coaching staff are bad teachers and coaches and do not provide players with the inspiration they need to maximize their talent? A good analogy is a bad high school teacher. My high school chemistry teacher was *awful*, everyone struggled to learn, and some people just didn't care. When we got a new teacher that was great, suddenly everyone's outlook changed. This isn't rocket science. Just look at the Yurtseven quote prhoya posted the other day, in which Yurtseven indicated he tried to talk to Ewing about the hard hedge, and Ewing basically blew him off. After all this time, I have come to the conclusion that this staff simply does not excel in teaching and coaching, particularly on the X's and O's of offense and defense. Our guys truly deserve better.
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iowa80
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Post by iowa80 on Feb 4, 2022 19:44:58 GMT -5
Watching yet another losses, it is not about the record. I coached many years and my success was based on the answer to the question, 'Are your players better at the end of the season than they were at the beginning?' Watching the play today, how frustrating this much be for the coaches. At the time outs, Coach imploring the players "ok, when you set a pick you need to step off after contact and look for the pass or the rebound!" The players either don't get it or have no interest in listening. Rebounds taken away, open shots not contested. One memory that will be hard to shake was three hoyas under the basket for a break away lay up and all three fail to put the ball in the basket. Three shots within two feet, and SJU gets the rebound. What do you do? I don't think it is Ewing, it is the team he has, they are individually very talented as a team they fail no matter what they do. Yes it is time for a reset. I know Coach Ewing knows this far better than anyone. Count me out of blaming the roster. Is this a group that is top 25 talent? No. But, are we playing up to our talent level? Absolutely not. If we were a well coached, but limited roster that tried hard, played with good ball IQ, and was simply limited by talent deficiencies, then fine. But, that is not what is happening here. I am not saying that a Hall of Fame coach would make this group Sweet 16 contenders, but I do think a better coaching staff would certainly win games in the Big East. While not the most talented roster we have had, there is no way the current staff is getting the maximum out of our guys. Just watch them. They are being put into a "system" (if one can even call it that) that is not well suited for them, they are receiving coaching on defense that has them well below average in all of Division 1, and the offensive system is not functioning well. I truly believe that a better coach could take these pieces and make a lot more out of it. Again, maybe not a top 25 group, but not 0-9 either. I am tired of the roster excuse. Does anybody who watched the Butler game think we are less talented or athletic? I don't. Is Dartmouth more talented than us? How about St. Josephs? Right now, our roster is being failed by its leadership, and I truly feel bad for our guys. They deserve better. Why say, "The players either don't get it or have no interest in listening." Isn't a third option that Ewing and the coaching staff are bad teachers and coaches and do not provide players with the inspiration they need to maximize their talent? A good analogy is a bad high school teacher. My high school chemistry teacher was *awful*, everyone struggled to learn, and some people just didn't care. When we got a new teacher that was great, suddenly everyone's outlook changed. This isn't rocket science. Just look at the Yurtseven quote prhoya posted the other day, in which Yurtseven indicated he tried to talk to Ewing about the hard hedge, and Ewing basically blew him off. After all this time, I have come to the conclusion that this staff simply does not excel in teaching and coaching, particularly on the X's and O's of offense and defense. Our guys truly deserve better. I agree, but let's also consider that roster construction--the province of the staff--fits here as well. We have no seniors and three essentially noncontributing juniors (no offense, Tim). Whenever I hear "But Tre King . . . ," I think how fortunate we were that Don Carey came back, something that easily might not have happened and could not have been relied upon. We are simply bereft of much upper class leadership. That's not an excuse, it's an unsolved and foreseeable problem.
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calhoya
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Post by calhoya on Feb 4, 2022 20:39:40 GMT -5
Some coaches recruit to their system. Some coaches adapt their system to the skills on their roster. I think that the problem is the Hoyas have been forcing a lot of square pegs into round holes. We should emphasize what this group does best--pressure defense and an offense that utilizes ball movement--not guards dribbling wildly into the lane and hurling prayers at the basket instead of kicking out to a shooter. Stop forcing passes in to a post who cannot score and has a weak handle. Give Carey and Rice time and an open shot and they are reliable shooters. Given time and open shots Holloway is a threat. Allow Ryan to move away from the basket and open the lane. Change the system and add some structure with this group and we might be competitive in several more games.
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This Just In
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Post by This Just In on Feb 5, 2022 9:26:32 GMT -5
Coach Ewing telling them to “make good passes.” Hope they listen. Some good passes would be helpful against a press. deleted 3. Posting repetitive messages with the intent of eliciting negative responses That's a lot of money for these type of results.
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This Just In
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Post by This Just In on Feb 5, 2022 9:33:25 GMT -5
The bigger problem is that Ewing is not a better coach than JTIII You can't fire a coach and hire a less capable one ala Dallas Cowboys Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer Ewing may not be a better coach than Esherick at this point.
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TC
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Post by TC on Feb 5, 2022 9:57:27 GMT -5
The bigger problem is that Ewing is not a better coach than JTIII You can't fire a coach and hire a less capable one ala Dallas Cowboys Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer Ewing may not be a better coach than Esherick at this point. JT2 Win% : .714 JT3 Win% (Georgetown) : .648 Esherick Win% : .582 Ewing Win% : .482 Magee Win% : .463 There's no "may not" here - Ewing isn't even close to as good as Esherick. Ewing likely finishes the year under Jack "3-23" Magee, the guy who was fired before John Thompson was hired. This isn't like firing Jimmy Johnson and hiring Barry Switzer, this is like firing Vince Lombardi and hiring Bart Starr.
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