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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2022 14:36:54 GMT -5
Reeves is a decent player, but only averages 10 ppg on 39% shooting and barely contributes through rebounding and assists. Overall, he's been a major disappointment over the course of his Providence career, certainly relative to his recruiting rankings. Missing Reeves is not the difference between Providence winning and getting an 88-56 beatdown by Marquette. Shaka Smart > Ed Cooley and it's not particularly close. Sound logic. So like when Pat pantsed Shaka & Texas' 10 top-100 kids by 16 at MSG?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2022 14:53:16 GMT -5
They have wins over Texas Tech, Wisconsin, UConn, andxSeton Hall. It’s a bad loss but that doesn’t discount the fact they’ve been impressive up until this point.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 5, 2022 15:11:32 GMT -5
Reeves is a decent player, but only averages 10 ppg on 39% shooting and barely contributes through rebounding and assists. Overall, he's been a major disappointment over the course of his Providence career, certainly relative to his recruiting rankings. Missing Reeves is not the difference between Providence winning and getting an 88-56 beatdown by Marquette. Shaka Smart > Ed Cooley and it's not particularly close. Sound logic. So like when Pat pantsed Shaka & Texas' 10 top-100 kids by 16 at MSG? Yep - just before all of Pat's good players left to go to better programs. Keep riding the Ewing train, nychoya - maybe we'll make it up to 7th or 8th place in the Big East this year before Mo leaves!
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Post by conshyhoya on Jan 5, 2022 15:17:01 GMT -5
Reeves is a decent player, but only averages 10 ppg on 39% shooting and barely contributes through rebounding and assists. Overall, he's been a major disappointment over the course of his Providence career, certainly relative to his recruiting rankings. Missing Reeves is not the difference between Providence winning and getting an 88-56 beatdown by Marquette. Shaka Smart > Ed Cooley and it's not particularly close.
I'm assuming you didn't watch the game. Marquette was packing the paint and making life hard on Watson because the Friars' guards couldn't penetrate and their shooting outside as a team was horrible. Reeves may only be shooting 39% but he is 36% on the year from 3 and if you look over his last 5 he was really heating up especially from deep except against the Seton Hall who is 6th in the country in 3 point defense and has pretty much contained everyone. I still doubt they win with Reeves as it is tough to win on the road in the BE but he would have certainly provided additional spacing giving Watson more room to work and the game would have been at least competitive IMO. He definitely has been a disappointment over his career but he has been starting to look the part this year lately until he broke his finger.
I don't see Marquette playing that way defensively against us. They will probably take a different strategy or Rice/Carey will have a field day as long as they are on and we don't have a Watson down low they need to account for. Their shot blockers are good so it will be a great test for Aminu to see if he can adjust to the better competition or change his approach like he did against Cuse.
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Post by thedragon on Jan 5, 2022 16:29:35 GMT -5
Not sure what to expect out of the squad Friday. Are they fresh legged, healthy, refocused and show better execution on both sides of the ball? Or are they rusty, sloppy, and lethargic coming off nearly 3 weeks of no games and little full squad practice time? Feels like either outlier is distinctly possible.
I will say the one thing that a 3 week break like this does is force the coaching staff to be very introspective and likely watching a lot of film. I think it greatly helped them last year and the results (especially defensively- minus the Uconn regular season finale) were apparent. Will be interested to see adjustments (if any) on Friday.
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Post by drquigley on Jan 5, 2022 17:59:35 GMT -5
If you listened to the Ewing presser it doesn't look good for the Hoyas Friday. He explained that due to the Covid protocols the team couldn't practice together and could only do individual strength and conditioning workouts. I'm afraid they will be flat and Marquette will be way better prepared to play.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jan 5, 2022 19:05:14 GMT -5
We're in trouble if they play like they're playing tonight. Wow - 35 points ahead and making it look easy. That Ed Cooley is a helluva coach. (sorry, had to ) Hook, line, and sinker 🤣
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Post by calhoya on Jan 5, 2022 21:20:45 GMT -5
Not expecting much Friday after such a long layoff. Consistency does not occur spontaneously.
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Post by trillesthoya on Jan 5, 2022 23:08:49 GMT -5
Hopefully Dante is fully healthy and Kobe is ready to get some burn. I’m very curious to see what we have with him, would be really great for next year if he becomes a contributor like Collin.
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Post by rhw485 on Jan 6, 2022 8:57:19 GMT -5
It might just be the new year optimism talking, but I think a break to let this team get healthy, take a step back and have the game slow down a bit could really benefit them here. And if any team has experience with it, this staff literally went through the same thing. Some things I'll be looking forward to: - Health: hopefully we have Dante and Tim back. I do think Tim's absence was probably underestimated there. I think he's easily our best defensive center and that's where we've really been struggling the most. I know people are eager to see Kobe, I'm maybe a little more skeptical there but we'll see. And if we don't have Dante against Marquette's press then I'm certainly less optimistic about this game
- Defense: are there any adjustments? While I know the focus was on the Marquette / Provy game, I'd actually look to the Marquette / Creighton game as a pretty good blueprint. Creighton held them to .86 ppp with what looked like a pretty simple game plan. Drop coverage on pick n roll, Kalkbrenner hung back very far, and they dared them to either finish over him or hit a very difficult wrap around pass without helping off shooters. As a result, only 25% of their attempts in that game were from 3, while teams average 40% of their attempts from 3 vs. us. That's my biggest frustration over our defense, we have the personnel with centers who should be able to protect the rim, we don't need other people digging in off their man to help.
- Morsell is the engine for them, I think that has Aminu's name all over it. I've actually been a little disappointed in Aminu's defense but upon reflection it was more because I think he's been the most guilty in overhelping. His on ball / man to man defense has been very solid, and the Game Theory podcast that talked about his NBA prospects and being bullish on him as a stopper at that level reminded me that he's really been good in those spots.
- Justin Lewis poses a problem though, last year it was all about him being a small ball center and he punished us in the first game and got played off the court a bit in the BET. This year he's really thinned down and is playing the 4 more consistently. A tough ask for Kaiden on defense. I do see a lot of similarities between Lewis and Holloway, Lewis is just a little ahead of the curve in terms of development but should be an interesting matchup if they line up
If you squint, I really think there are pieces here. Two guys who can get to the rim and collapse defense (Aminu / Dante) surrounded by two dead eye shooters (Carey / Rice) with a rim runner / offensive rebounder. Now Dante needs to shoot it better, Aminu needs to work on passing when defense collapse, but there's a version of this team that works. Throw in Holloway and Beard being adequate, you cut down the rotation and I don't see why the offense can't succeed. If the defense can improve we can get closer to the middle of the pack than expected, that continues to be the question mark hanging over Ewing teams.
Yup, definitely ready to get hurt again. Here we go.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Jan 6, 2022 10:06:35 GMT -5
I agree with the above, save for cutting down on the rotation.
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Post by tafkashfsee on Jan 6, 2022 10:19:14 GMT -5
Wait so this Georgetown Marquette game is supposed to be at McDonough too? Awwl hell nawwl!
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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 6, 2022 12:16:41 GMT -5
No, tomorrow's game is at Capital One.
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Post by tafkashfsee on Jan 6, 2022 13:41:16 GMT -5
No, tomorrow's game is at Capital One. Thanks but I looked at my account for the ticket and I didn't see it. I have all the remaining home games. I looked online and it was listed as the game being at McDonough. Maybe it is wrong (and also in my panic) and I should have done further research. I wasn't planning on going to the game anyways but I heard that St John's game is going to be at McDonough and as a result of the move from Cap One to McDonough, we have been issued a credit for that game. So if it is at Cap One, thanks and maybe I just panicked since I didn't see a credit for the Marquette game like I saw for the St. John's game. However, I have to figure out why I don't see the ticket in my account if the Marquette game is at Cap One. Here is the site where I got the McDonough information: betql.co/ncaab/game-predictions/georgetown-vs-marquette-01-07-2022
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Post by guru on Jan 6, 2022 13:57:46 GMT -5
No, tomorrow's game is at Capital One. Thanks but I looked at my account for the ticket and I didn't see it. I have all the remaining home games. I looked online and it was listed as the game being at McDonough. Maybe it is wrong (and also in my panic) and I should have done further research. I wasn't planning on going to the game anyways but I heard that St John's game is going to be at McDonough and as a result of the move from Cap One to McDonough, we have been issued a credit for that game. So if it is at Cap One, thanks and maybe I just panicked since I didn't see a credit for the Marquette game like I saw for the St. John's game. However, I have to figure out why I don't see the ticket in my account if the Marquette game is at Cap One. Here is the site where I got the McDonough information: betql.co/ncaab/game-predictions/georgetown-vs-marquette-01-07-2022Maybe guhoyas.com is a tad more reliable on this topic than betql?
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Post by tafkashfsee on Jan 6, 2022 14:18:35 GMT -5
Thanks but I looked at my account for the ticket and I didn't see it. I have all the remaining home games. I looked online and it was listed as the game being at McDonough. Maybe it is wrong (and also in my panic) and I should have done further research. I wasn't planning on going to the game anyways but I heard that St John's game is going to be at McDonough and as a result of the move from Cap One to McDonough, we have been issued a credit for that game. So if it is at Cap One, thanks and maybe I just panicked since I didn't see a credit for the Marquette game like I saw for the St. John's game. However, I have to figure out why I don't see the ticket in my account if the Marquette game is at Cap One. Here is the site where I got the McDonough information: betql.co/ncaab/game-predictions/georgetown-vs-marquette-01-07-2022Maybe guhoyas.com is a tad more reliable on this topic than betql? Good point.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 6, 2022 14:39:10 GMT -5
They have wins over Texas Tech, Wisconsin, UConn, andxSeton Hall. It’s a bad loss but that doesn’t discount the fact they’ve been impressive up until this point. Providence currently #50 in KenPom, behind such luminaries as Northwestern, UAB, Davidson and Boise State. The beatdown Marquette gave to the Friars this week probably isn't that impressive in the grand scheme of things. kenpom.com
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2022 15:19:18 GMT -5
They have wins over Texas Tech, Wisconsin, UConn, andxSeton Hall. It’s a bad loss but that doesn’t discount the fact they’ve been impressive up until this point. Providence currently #50 in KenPom, behind such luminaries as Northwestern, UAB, Davidson and Boise State. The beatdown Marquette gave to the Friars this week probably isn't that impressive in the grand scheme of things. kenpom.com#33 Net ranking with 4 quad 1 wins. #39 T-rank on Bart Torvak and 1 beat down handed out to the goat Dan Hurley. 😉 www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game/_/gameId/401373512
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jan 6, 2022 16:11:50 GMT -5
There are two different lines of thinking of how this team will perform coming out of another prolonged COVID break. One is that the break couldn't have worked out better for us, allowing the team valuable practice time (although maybe not together?) and the chance to get healthier. The other is that the long layoff can't help but hurt our chances for consistency and that we are likely come out rusty and not firing on all cylinders, which is not something we can afford to against a top third of the conference type team with the way we've been playing this season. The answer's probably somewhere in between.
I know they're completely different teams and this would not be an apples-to-apples comparison, but I thought it would be useful to look back at the last COVID break and see where the improvement may have initially occurred.
Average Adj. Offense (pre-COVID): 102.1 Average Adj. Offense (first 3 games post-COVID): 123.5
Average Adj. Defense (pre-COVID): 95.5 Average Adj. Defense (first 3 games post-COVID): 104.6
Average TO% Offense (pre-COVID): 21.6 Average TO% Offense (first 3 games post-COVID): 16.7
Average Off. Reb% (pre-COVID): 29.6 Average Off. Reb% (first 3 games post-COVID): 38.6
Average FT Rate% (pre-COVID): 23.6 Average FT Rate% (first 3 games post-COVID): 30.7
Average TO% Defense (pre-COVID): 13.5 Average TO% Defense (first 3 games post-COVID): 16.1
Takeaways: Our defense propelled us during the second half of last season, but it was really our offense that got us out of the gate and jumpstarted the season. A nice healthy mix of taking better care of the basketball while being more aggressive in hitting the glass and getting to the line made a world of difference. Have to hope that the long layoff provided ample time to rest and refocus on getting back to an acceptable level of physicality that we are accustomed to seeing out of this program but have not seen yet to date on a consistent basis this season.
I do think the same keys to success that drove last year's team apply here too. Much like last year's team, this is an excellent offensive rebounding (36th nationally)) and 3 point shooting (13th nationally) team we have here. Question is, will we take care of the ball well enough AND force enough turnovers where we're not starting at a huge FG attempt deficit each night? And will the defense, particularly in transition, improve enough to help us pick off a few extra wins against the top of the league? Last year's squad finished 44th in Adj Def, not sure this year's team (193rd currently) will get there, but there's a lot of room for improvement. Wiping away 4-6 freebie points a game because we jog back on D would be a nice start.
Again, impossible to predict how this team will react coming out of the break, but I would hope to see significantly fewer execution-type mistakes than we saw for the first 5-6 weeks of the season. I don't know that there's another magical run through March for this group, but there certainly is a higher ceiling than what we've seen thus far, and my expectation is to start seeing steps towards approaching it.
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Post by hoyas315 on Jan 6, 2022 18:06:04 GMT -5
Georgetown +2 to open
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