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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 5, 2021 18:11:21 GMT -5
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hoyas212
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Post by hoyas212 on Apr 5, 2021 18:26:08 GMT -5
A couple of years ago, thought it would have been Stackhouse that eventually succeeded Williams, but he hasn't been successful at Vanderbilt through 2 seasons. Hubert Davis comes with the Roy stamp of approval and looks like he is set up for success there. Carolina is always going to get talent and he has a great shot of being the Tar Heel coach when K leaves, who has no obvious successor. (and Leonard Hamilton, who has FSU routinely competing in the ACC. Boeheim too, Cuse has had nice NCAA tournament runs since going to the ACC but haven't done much in conference).
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Post by njhoya78 on Apr 5, 2021 19:51:53 GMT -5
There was no question that UNC was going to keep it in the family, and Hubert Davis has been an assistant on Roy Williams's staff for nine seasons. I'd have to assume that he had significant involvement in recruiting prospective scholar-athletes, and it's difficult to say that he hasn't paid some dues along the way. So, while his selection may appear unusual at the outset, it actually makes some sense; unlike Patrick Ewing, he won't have to come up to speed on the peculiarities of the college game. We'll now see how he proceeds/succeeds as the head guy. Where has “keeping it in the family” by promoting a career assistant worked at a big time program? I wasn't aware that I had asserted that it had worked.
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 5, 2021 19:58:07 GMT -5
Miller would have been a much better choice.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 6, 2021 12:45:36 GMT -5
Scott Drew = another Barry Collier Butler Way coaching disciple
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Post by LCPolo18 on Apr 7, 2021 11:51:37 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 7, 2021 12:30:49 GMT -5
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 7, 2021 12:32:48 GMT -5
Now if we can just get rid of Will Wade, it will be a perfect day!
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Post by calhoya on Apr 7, 2021 13:19:44 GMT -5
Would like to think that his departure had to do with failure to comply with NCAA rules and regulations, but suspect that the failure to reach the Final Four was a bigger reason. Schools do not typically develop a sense of ethics this long after the fairly damning evidence of a corrupt program.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Apr 7, 2021 13:35:18 GMT -5
Would like to think that his departure had to do with failure to comply with NCAA rules and regulations, but suspect that the failure to reach the Final Four was a bigger reason. Schools do not typically develop a sense of ethics this long after the fairly damning evidence of a corrupt program. The release reads that "The University will honor the terms of his existing contract", which sounds like term without cause. Schools are hesitant to fire for cause because it involves lots of legal work and engenders ill will in the coaching community. This also the time for Arizona to settle quickly with the NCAA, take its full punishment, and get the alumni to accept a long rebuild. If someone had told you in 2004 that Dave Bliss' successor at Baylor would someday win a national championship, it would be far more unlikely than a rebuild at Arizona.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 7, 2021 13:43:58 GMT -5
Would like to think that his departure had to do with failure to comply with NCAA rules and regulations, but suspect that the failure to reach the Final Four was a bigger reason. Schools do not typically develop a sense of ethics this long after the fairly damning evidence of a corrupt program. I suspect they feel that the NCAA ban hammer is coming and are trying to be proactive to mitigate. I think KU feels the hammer coming and had to lock up Self with a lifetime contract so he wouldn't try to leave.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 8, 2021 9:49:49 GMT -5
This is actually a great hire, as Adams is a defensive guru and has been with Beard a while. I don't know how he will be as a recruiter, but he should be good on the X's and O's. It's a loss for Beard that Adams is not going with him to Texas.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 8, 2021 10:25:47 GMT -5
This is actually a great hire, as Adams is a defensive guru and has been with Beard a while. I don't know how he will be as a recruiter, but he should be good on the X's and O's. It's a loss for Beard that Adams is not going with him to Texas. Yes he’s the architect of there no middle defense. Also a Tech alumni so has loyalty. I think we’re seeing more and more that if you are a stepping stone school your best bet is to hire former alumni. Non alumni guys like Buzz Williams or Beard or even Brad Stevens will bolt at the first good opportunity
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Post by SDHoya on Apr 8, 2021 10:33:23 GMT -5
This is actually a great hire, as Adams is a defensive guru and has been with Beard a while. I don't know how he will be as a recruiter, but he should be good on the X's and O's. It's a loss for Beard that Adams is not going with him to Texas. Its always hard to tell which assistants can make it on their own as head coaches (see Esherick, Craig). I don't know much about Adams frankly--appears he has had a ton of success as a Juco HC, but his only previous stint as a D1 HC was unsuccessful (5 seasons in the 90s at Texas Pan American, only one season with a winning record). TT fans I'm sure are pretty Editeded Beard left, but considering TT stole him from UNLV a week after they hired him, they shouldn't be too surprised. Maybe Adams will succeed, but kinda get the feeling here Adams' biggest selling point is that he is less likely to bolt for the next shiny offer.
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 8, 2021 10:43:54 GMT -5
This is actually a great hire, as Adams is a defensive guru and has been with Beard a while. I don't know how he will be as a recruiter, but he should be good on the X's and O's. It's a loss for Beard that Adams is not going with him to Texas. Yes he’s the architect of there no middle defense. Also a Tech alumni so has loyalty. I think we’re seeing more and more that if you are a stepping stone school your best bet is to hire former alumni. Non alumni guys like Buzz Williams or Beard or even Brad Stevens will bolt at the first good opportunity To be fair, Beard had many chances to leave TTU over the last few years... Plus Buzz left when the BE was in flux & Stevens left for the NBA both had many chances to leave prior... The best thing a "stepping stone" program can do is have a great infrastructure in place that's able to handle adversity well. See Butler & Xavier...
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Apr 9, 2021 17:36:34 GMT -5
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Apr 10, 2021 9:57:35 GMT -5
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Post by dchoya72 on Apr 10, 2021 23:17:35 GMT -5
This is actually a great hire, as Adams is a defensive guru and has been with Beard a while. I don't know how he will be as a recruiter, but he should be good on the X's and O's. It's a loss for Beard that Adams is not going with him to Texas. Its always hard to tell which assistants can make it on their own as head coaches (see Esherick, Craig). I don't know much about Adams frankly--appears he has had a ton of success as a Juco HC, but his only previous stint as a D1 HC was unsuccessful (5 seasons in the 90s at Texas Pan American, only one season with a winning record). TT fans I'm sure are pretty Editeded Beard left, but considering TT stole him from UNLV a week after they hired him, they shouldn't be too surprised. Maybe Adams will succeed, but kinda get the feeling here Adams' biggest selling point is that he is less likely to bolt for the next shiny offer. In my opinion Michael Riley should have been promoted to head coach instead of Esherick. Esherick's tenure is a story in and of itself, as for Riley. Well never know. What he do after leaving the Hoyas? Does anyone know?
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 11, 2021 6:48:47 GMT -5
Its always hard to tell which assistants can make it on their own as head coaches (see Esherick, Craig). I don't know much about Adams frankly--appears he has had a ton of success as a Juco HC, but his only previous stint as a D1 HC was unsuccessful (5 seasons in the 90s at Texas Pan American, only one season with a winning record). TT fans I'm sure are pretty Editeded Beard left, but considering TT stole him from UNLV a week after they hired him, they shouldn't be too surprised. Maybe Adams will succeed, but kinda get the feeling here Adams' biggest selling point is that he is less likely to bolt for the next shiny offer. In my opinion Michael Riley should have been promoted to head coach instead of Esherick. Esherick's tenure is a story in and of itself, as for Riley. Well never know. What he do after leaving the Hoyas? Does anyone know? Riley was head coach at UDC in 2013(?) but don't recall how long he lasted. As an aside, I used Riley as an example to counter ignorant fans who'd tell me that Pops was a racist. If that were true, why did he select Esherick over Riley as his successor?
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Post by WhatRocks on Apr 11, 2021 6:52:41 GMT -5
Riley had left several years before Thompson retired. Riley had a position at Gonzaga College High School for a while. His primary duty was not coaching basketball,.
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