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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jun 26, 2019 12:32:49 GMT -5
I doubt we ever get Notre Dame out of the ACC. They recently agreed to play 4 conference football games per season. Most likely an AAC school that parks football elsewhere or goes independent. Temple and/or Cincinnati?
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jun 26, 2019 12:33:23 GMT -5
A lot different than when they joined in 1979.
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Post by hoya95 on Jun 26, 2019 12:55:50 GMT -5
A lot different than when they joined in 1979. Yeah, but if you had told me in 2004 that this is how the conference raiding would wind up, I would have been thrilled. The people running the Big East did a fantastic job navigating the waters of all the football sharks.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jun 26, 2019 14:19:02 GMT -5
I doubt we ever get Notre Dame out of the ACC. They recently agreed to play 4 conference football games per season. Most likely an AAC school that parks football elsewhere or goes independent. Temple and/or Cincinnati? Would think Xavier would work actively to keep Cincinnati away from the Big East. Not sure about Nova and Temple, since they already play each other in the Big 5.
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Post by bigelephant on Jun 26, 2019 16:09:10 GMT -5
A lot different than when they joined in 1979. Good!
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Post by 2ndRyan on Jun 26, 2019 17:00:24 GMT -5
When asked why UConn (then a member of the Yankee Conference) in 1979 Dave Gavitt referred to them as "a sleeping giant". Sleepy would perhaps characterize the Dom Perno years through 1986.
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Post by njhoya78 on Jun 26, 2019 17:59:56 GMT -5
I remember the end of the Dom Perno era...almost as moving as the end of the Paul Evans era.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jun 26, 2019 18:08:54 GMT -5
Here's the signed agreement with UConn. What makes this interesting are not only the numbers, but it's likely a substantially similar agreement to which Georgetown signed. Given that contracts at Georgetown are guarded with all the secrecy of the Curia, it's a window to how the Big East works that you simply won't get out of McDonough or 2nd Healy. www.documentcloud.org/documents/6172262-UConnBigEastAgreement
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 21:12:59 GMT -5
Here's the signed agreement with UConn. What makes this interesting are not only the numbers, but it's likely a substantially similar agreement to which Georgetown signed. Given that contracts at Georgetown are guarded with all the secrecy of the Curia, it's a window to how the Big East works that you simply won't get out of McDonough or 2nd Healy. www.documentcloud.org/documents/6172262-UConnBigEastAgreementIt’s good to be a private university.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Jun 27, 2019 0:17:21 GMT -5
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Post by SDHoya on Jun 27, 2019 2:23:37 GMT -5
Now that the BE has 11 and has a former original back in the fold, it’s time to put to rest any more expansion talk. 11 is perfect for a 20 game round robin, and frankly no other institution is a great fit. No need to water down the product just to get to an arbitrary number like 12, or to theoretically add a “market”.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jun 27, 2019 4:23:13 GMT -5
12 should be if a dream scenario unfolds down the road.
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Post by NCHoya on Jun 27, 2019 8:45:52 GMT -5
Agree, 11 is a great number for now, keeps the round robin in place and adds an excellent team. People who are talking about a 12th team are not thinking this through - what value is there in adding a not great 12th team? It dilutes the money and ruins the scheduling; this is not football, the value of each team is much lower. If another team similar to UConn shakes loose from a conference, that would be the only way BE should go to 12.
The conference just hit a homerun, we should all be excited.
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Post by NCHoya on Jun 27, 2019 8:49:51 GMT -5
In the very, very unlikely event that UConn gets interest from a power 5 in the next 10 years, a $15MM buyout is not a heavy price to pay. However, the price is probably high enough to keep them from jumping to a non-power 5 conference. Even if they left, the BE would be what it is today in 2019 with a few extra $'s for each team, not a big problem for the conference in any way.
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Post by hilltophoya on Jun 27, 2019 9:20:25 GMT -5
Here's the signed agreement with UConn. What makes this interesting are not only the numbers, but it's likely a substantially similar agreement to which Georgetown signed. Given that contracts at Georgetown are guarded with all the secrecy of the Curia, it's a window to how the Big East works that you simply won't get out of McDonough or 2nd Healy. www.documentcloud.org/documents/6172262-UConnBigEastAgreementI see that UConn is required to give the AAC a 27 month notice prior to withdrawal. Accordingly, they'll surely be negotiating for an earlier departure. I'd imagine that the AAC will want to extract some more money to agree to that, and I'd think UConn would be willing to pay. If they can't come to some sort of agreement, UConn might not actually be part of the Big East until July 2022. I'm sure they'll reach an agreement. I wonder what that will cost UConn.
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Post by calhoya on Jun 27, 2019 9:58:48 GMT -5
Agree, 11 is a great number for now, keeps the round robin in place and adds an excellent team. People who are talking about a 12th team are not thinking this through - what value is there in adding a not great 12th team? It dilutes the money and ruins the scheduling; this is not football, the value of each team is much lower. If another team similar to UConn shakes loose from a conference, that would be the only way BE should go to 12. The conference just hit a homerun, we should all be excited. Agree with all this with the reservation that what makes any 12th team a great addition should not necessarily have to involve its recent success or lack thereof on the basketball court. The addition of any team should involve the determination that it will benefit the conference through adding to or solidifying the footprint. Not certain that many of the original BE members were great on the basketball court immediately prior to joining the conference.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2019 10:29:49 GMT -5
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Post by sleepy on Jun 27, 2019 10:55:01 GMT -5
I tried reading most of the Ucon contract last night .I did not see any mention of how revenues from fox and the NCAA would be distributed. I thought that I had read here or perhaps somewhere else that Uconn would not receive a full distribution until year 7. Also it was my understanding that the Fox contract cannot be opened up for negotiation unless 2 teams are added . If anyone has some better insight please share your thoughts
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 27, 2019 11:48:50 GMT -5
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Jun 27, 2019 12:59:22 GMT -5
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