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Post by blueandgray on Jun 22, 2019 18:13:33 GMT -5
There had better be some kind of poison pill to prevent them from seeking all-sports affiliation in a Power 5 conference, or we'll be reliving the demise of the original Big East Conference if/when the ACC comes calling. I have to imagine that there must be some language with teeth to it should UConn try to pull more shenanigans down the line. That, and perhaps there is some sort of buy in in place.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jun 22, 2019 18:46:44 GMT -5
UConn was an obvious choice. I don’t think there is another one.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jun 22, 2019 19:45:48 GMT -5
There should be at least a $100,000,000.00 buyout fee for the if they rat out again That would be thrown out of court in 15 minutes. Liquidated damages are based on a specific figure of damages upon exit and there's nothing to suggest losing any team merits that. And to be fair, UConn didn't leave the conference, the conference left them. The buyout fee for leaving the Southeastern Conference? $0, because no one would do so today. Tulane and Georgia Tech walked away in the 1960's and have regretted it ever since.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 20:08:19 GMT -5
I'm pretty psyched about this development -- hope it's a done deal. Another big-time home game on the calendar for us every year and more fun at the Garden.
That's before you add the single most dominant team in major college athletics over the last 25 years.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 22, 2019 20:37:36 GMT -5
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Post by MCIGuy on Jun 22, 2019 21:56:48 GMT -5
Providence people are the most skeptical. Their hatred over being the doormat of UConn runs deep.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 22, 2019 23:12:53 GMT -5
Boeheim says it is a good move for UConn and great for the Big East. There are plenty of reasons to dislike him, but he always championed the Conference, and I have little doubt that in private he wishes they were still in the BE. Point taken but EFF that guy. I don't care what he thinks about in private. He's a traitor to the conference and I wish him nothing but failure. Plenty of reasons to dislike Magoo, but not sure about the "traitor" tag. The ACC move was driven entirely by football, and he complained pretty bitterly about it at the time.
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Post by sleepy on Jun 22, 2019 23:21:05 GMT -5
There had better be some kind of poison pill to prevent them from seeking all-sports affiliation in a Power 5 conference, or we'll be reliving the demise of the original Big East Conference if/when the ACC comes calling. I have to imagine that there must be some language with teeth to it should UConn try to pull more shenanigans down the line. That, and perhaps there is some sort of buy in in place. A poison pill yes .but are we forgetting the 30 mil that the conference has paid to ucon as the buyout from the last breakup. I want all or part of that money back. If not a very weak negotiation on the BE part.
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Post by professorhoya on Jun 23, 2019 8:44:14 GMT -5
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Post by hoyaboya on Jun 23, 2019 13:29:32 GMT -5
Good news for the Big East if true. Hurley will be a handful, that program is a sleeping giant.
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Post by njhoya78 on Jun 23, 2019 13:44:23 GMT -5
www.nhregister.com/uconn/article/Is-UConn-heading-back-to-the-Big-East-14030270.phpAccording to Dana O’Neil of The Athletic, UConn’s addition to the Big East will likely be announced this upcoming week. CBS Sports is reporting Big East presidents are expected to ratify the move early this week and the UConn Board of Trustees will vote on the move Wednesday, setting up a potential announcement Thursday in New York.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jun 23, 2019 14:07:28 GMT -5
Good news for the Big East if true. Hurley will be a handful, that program is a sleeping giant. Good time for them to rejoin too, that 2020 team will be strong.
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Post by drquigley on Jun 23, 2019 14:33:08 GMT -5
Add at least 15,000 attendance for that home game. 400 section packed. Place rocking. Can't wait!
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Post by CTHoya08 on Jun 23, 2019 15:32:15 GMT -5
Great news. Can’t wait to be able to walk across the street from the office to watch Mackinjo silence 15,000 Husky fans.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jun 23, 2019 15:42:21 GMT -5
Add at least 15,000 attendance for that home game. 400 section packed. Place rocking. Can't wait! We can't assume this. The trouble is, Georgetown has assumed too much about the fan base over the years, and it didn't materialize. In the last six seasons, there have been just four home games out of 101 that drew as many as 15,000, and zero to teams not named Syracuse or Villanova. In the previous six seasons, there were 25 such games. (FWIW, The 2017 game with UConn drew 12,164.) The fan base isn't what is was, just like Washington isn't what it was. Today's students live in a world where the Redskins have never been a contender, where the street in front of the White House has always been a place to skateboard, and Georgetown home games aren't a destination. To build that back takes a plan, not just doing what worked in 2013 or 2007.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 23, 2019 15:51:43 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 16:39:04 GMT -5
Add at least 15,000 attendance for that home game. 400 section packed. Place rocking. Can't wait! We can't assume this. The trouble is, Georgetown has assumed too much about the fan base over the years, and it didn't materialize. In the last six seasons, there have been just four home games out of 101 that drew as many as 15,000, and zero to teams not named Syracuse or Villanova. In the previous six seasons, there were 25 such games. (FWIW, The 2017 game with UConn drew 12,164.) The fan base isn't what is was, just like Washington isn't what it was. Today's students live in a world where the Redskins have never been a contender, where the street in front of the White House has always been a place to skateboard, and Georgetown home games aren't a destination. To build that back takes a plan, not just doing what worked in 2013 or 2007. Geez. I think the attendance horse raced in Santa Anita at some point over the past 6 months. Sure you need a plan, but isn't "what worked" in 2007 and 2013 BET tournament championship teams (and a Final Four, etc didn't hurt). It's pretty simple. Win and attendance will follow. Sure, we're now in a generation/time where no one is really motivated to leave their house/apartment, but honest question: would the fan base (at least geezers on this board) be happy, and would the program make $ venue-wise with average attendance across all games at the 9-10k level (meaning lessening but continued apathy for most cupcake games - say 7k average, and 10-12k at all BE games)?
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Post by professorhoya on Jun 23, 2019 16:54:53 GMT -5
We can't assume this. The trouble is, Georgetown has assumed too much about the fan base over the years, and it didn't materialize. In the last six seasons, there have been just four home games out of 101 that drew as many as 15,000, and zero to teams not named Syracuse or Villanova. In the previous six seasons, there were 25 such games. (FWIW, The 2017 game with UConn drew 12,164.) The fan base isn't what is was, just like Washington isn't what it was. Today's students live in a world where the Redskins have never been a contender, where the street in front of the White House has always been a place to skateboard, and Georgetown home games aren't a destination. To build that back takes a plan, not just doing what worked in 2013 or 2007. Geez. I think the attendance horse raced in Santa Anita at some point over the past 6 months. Sure you need a plan, but isn't "what worked" in 2007 and 2013 BET tournament championship teams (and a Final Four, etc didn't hurt). It's pretty simple. Win and attendance will follow. Sure, we're now in a generation/time where no one is really motivated to leave their house/apartment, but honest question: would the fan base (at least geezers on this board) be happy, and would the program make $ venue-wise with average attendance across all games at the 9-10k level (meaning lessening but continued apathy for most cupcake games - say 7k average, and 10-12k at all BE games)? The TV deal is where ITS at anyway. Not sure why we are harping on this prehistoric Notion of game attendance.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jun 23, 2019 18:12:12 GMT -5
Game attendance does matter. A healthy program has fans in seats. Also, optically it looks horrible on tv with an empty arena. Add recruiting and home court advantage.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jun 23, 2019 19:34:25 GMT -5
Sure - TV enables millions of fans to watch games, far more than even a sellout achieves in actual, live attendance. But really, as a kid, a student, a local fan... everyone knows there is nothing like being in the building when your team is hot! Watching on TV is no substitute for that.
On the other hand, DFW has a legit point. Getting 1,000s of fans out for game after game takes effort. OF course it makes sense to look at what else was done in 2007 and 2013 to boost attendance...surely there is something to be learned by examining what was done at the time. But that is not enough. Social media has advanced by leaps and bounds since then. Lots of media to distract students - and other fans. Transportation is different. All kinds of things are different. I am not an expert in this area by any means, but a concerted effort on behalf of the program from the SID, student-organized support, marketing efforts by the program, joint marketing with other entities - bars, restaurants, sports gear, whatever..... There is lots that can be learned from other teams that have consistent success at the gate.
Back to the main point? It is a helluva a lot easier to build all of those support elements for a team that plays an exciting brand of basketball (Check), has some brilliant individual performers (check), especially those with their own social media following (check) and.... a team that wins a TON of games!
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