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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 14, 2019 14:07:22 GMT -5
Regarding freshman walls, and Akinjo, his poor shooting isn't hitting a freshman wall because he hasn't been able to shoot well all Big East season. He went 1-5 last night from two, and his two point percentage actually went up. He is not taking good shots, and he cannot finish. I agree you can't sit him, and he brings other benefits to the court (ball handling, assists, etc.), but his lack of offensive production has been hurting us. You don't shoot 13-70 (18.6%) from two and take good shots. It just doesn't happen.
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Post by gunny on Feb 14, 2019 14:28:15 GMT -5
This may be one of the worse defensive Hoya teams that I can remember. We have subpar defenders at the 5 (Govan and Mourning) and extremely undersized at guard. Going forward, I do not see how we can play defensively with Akinjo and McClung on the court at the same time. It is too easy for teams to shoot over them from 3.
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Post by mdtd on Feb 14, 2019 14:58:36 GMT -5
As of now, I don't see a way where the Hoyas win this game. What has happened over the last few games has been me expecting a poor performance, reading the board then believing that the Hoyas can win and this game may be no different. Like honestly, I think there's a 30% chance max because it's a wake-up call. It's hard to defend Nova especially with how deadly they can be. McClung and Akinjo would need to play well and the bench production would have to be consistent with what it has been over the last few games. This would need to be one of the best performances this year, if not the best. A good game from almost everyone is what's needed to take them down. Just can't see it.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 15, 2019 1:02:23 GMT -5
This may be one of the worse defensive Hoya teams that I can remember. We have subpar defenders at the 5 (Govan and Mourning) and extremely undersized at guard. Going forward, I do not see how we can play defensively with Akinjo and McClung on the court at the same time. It is too easy for teams to shoot over them from 3. They were shooting over Pickett and Jagan time and again last night.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Feb 15, 2019 7:10:00 GMT -5
This may be one of the worse defensive Hoya teams that I can remember. We have subpar defenders at the 5 (Govan and Mourning) and extremely undersized at guard. Going forward, I do not see how we can play defensively with Akinjo and McClung on the court at the same time. It is too easy for teams to shoot over them from 3. It’s not a matter of “may be.” It is definitely one of the worst. According to KenPom, we are ranked 132nd in defensive efficiency. This is the worst defensive ranking for Georgetown in the 18 years posted on the KenPom site (going back to the 2001-2002 season).
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Post by kettlehill on Feb 15, 2019 10:35:40 GMT -5
Seton Hall and previous teams are basically running guys up in McClung's face when he touches the ball on the perimeter to stifle him out there and keep any drives from even getting started. I think their mindset is that he'll hang on to the ball too long after the double team and jack up a forced three, which is the pattern. Have to create ways to get him the ball en route to the basket like a slasher instead of just handing it to him on the perimeter, his game is driving but it's too hard to go from the three pt line to the hoop. All his hops and explosiveness are useless hanging out in three point land. Run him backdoor and for alley oops like Duke did w Grant Hill. Maybe actually let Mac run the point a while also, he's good at distributing. Akinjo has the ball in his hands too long and is just taking too long to get things started, slows down the ball movement, you can see the whole pace of the team and the ball sharing and player movement go down when he comes in. I hope he can learn to swing it more and play off the ball better, preferably by next week. - Off the ball Mac is frustrating, no real movement. It’s more ( like in High School) : give me the ball and I’ll do my thing. When he is on and healthy that works. But how about some plays for him like the above mentioned black door and alley oops. Patrick doesn’t seem fond of the alley-oop. The kids got the best verticals around- use it. Use it with Josh too. Use it. I also like the idea of Mac At the point. He doesn’t have James, handle, but few do and Macs handle is just fine. And he has great court vision.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 15, 2019 10:36:37 GMT -5
This may be one of the worse defensive Hoya teams that I can remember. We have subpar defenders at the 5 (Govan and Mourning) and extremely undersized at guard. Going forward, I do not see how we can play defensively with Akinjo and McClung on the court at the same time. It is too easy for teams to shoot over them from 3. It’s not a matter of “may be.” It is definitely one of the worst. According to KenPom, we are ranked 132nd in defensive efficiency. This is the worst defensive ranking for Georgetown in the 18 years posted on the KenPom site (going back to the 2001-2002 season). Basically, yes, though by raw numbers, last year and this year look very similar. By ranking, the worst defenses going that far back are: 2019 (132) 2018 (119) 2005 (97) 2014 (91) 2016 (81) By raw efficiency (points given up per possession): 2018: (102.3) 2019: (102.1) 2014: (100.6) 2005: (99.8) 2016: (99.7) To put it in some perspective, our defense this year is giving up 1.021 points per possession, whereas our best defense in that era (2013) gave up 0.864 points per possession. Our offense is ranked 55 now. I really am not all that concerned about the offense moving forward, but the defense needs to drastically improve to have a chance at NCAA bids going forward. I realize that people are down on Govan (and he's not a good defender), but considering that our team largely stays the same next year other than the Govan/Yurtseven swap, much of the improvement needs to come from within.
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Post by drquigley on Feb 15, 2019 11:13:00 GMT -5
It’s not a matter of “may be.” It is definitely one of the worst. According to KenPom, we are ranked 132nd in defensive efficiency. This is the worst defensive ranking for Georgetown in the 18 years posted on the KenPom site (going back to the 2001-2002 season). Basically, yes, though by raw numbers, last year and this year look very similar. By ranking, the worst defenses going that far back are: 2019 (132) 2018 (119) 2005 (97) 2014 (91) 2016 (81) By raw efficiency (points given up per possession): 2018: (102.3) 2019: (102.1) 2014: (100.6) 2005: (99.8) 2016: (99.7) To put it in some perspective, our defense this year is giving up 1.021 points per possession, whereas our best defense in that era (2013) gave up 0.864 points per possession. Our offense is ranked 55 now. I really am not all that concerned about the offense moving forward, but the defense needs to drastically improve to have a chance at NCAA bids going forward. I realize that people are down on Govan (and he's not a good defender), but considering that our team largely stays the same next year other than the Govan/Yurtseven swap, much of the improvement needs to come from within. Whoa! I'm guessing that with 3 incoming players over 6'10" we should definitely find some rim protectors in the group. In fact, while I haven't seen any of them play, I have a sneaky suspicion that PE has recruited them for just this purpose. I know if I had been coaching and watching Govan for the past 2 years I'd have told my coaches to find me a big man who can jump, has strong hands, likes to mix it up underneath and has some "meanery". And I bet Carter has been told to bulk up a little.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Feb 15, 2019 11:24:02 GMT -5
Speaking of MEANERY, I hope that we bring it in spades for this home game versus Nova.
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 15, 2019 12:02:44 GMT -5
It’s not a matter of “may be.” It is definitely one of the worst. According to KenPom, we are ranked 132nd in defensive efficiency. This is the worst defensive ranking for Georgetown in the 18 years posted on the KenPom site (going back to the 2001-2002 season). Basically, yes, though by raw numbers, last year and this year look very similar. By ranking, the worst defenses going that far back are: 2019 (132) 2018 (119) 2005 (97) 2014 (91) 2016 (81) By raw efficiency (points given up per possession): 2018: (102.3) 2019: (102.1) 2014: (100.6) 2005: (99.8) 2016: (99.7) To put it in some perspective, our defense this year is giving up 1.021 points per possession, whereas our best defense in that era (2013) gave up 0.864 points per possession. Our offense is ranked 55 now. I really am not all that concerned about the offense moving forward, but the defense needs to drastically improve to have a chance at NCAA bids going forward. I realize that people are down on Govan (and he's not a good defender), but considering that our team largely stays the same next year other than the Govan/Yurtseven swap, much of the improvement needs to come from within.I agree 100% The play where Govan allowed McKnight to score the layup, both McClung & Pickett were in better position to stop the ball than Govan was but both just followed their man instead of taking action... Jessie was late as usual on the high screen swap however the help should have been there from others, the staff has to get the players to understand how to help each other defensively...
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 15, 2019 13:24:11 GMT -5
Mac’s ankle is slowing him down.
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Post by SaxaCD on Feb 15, 2019 14:39:30 GMT -5
Mac’s ankle is slowing him down. It was very obvious last game.
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Post by kettlehill on Feb 15, 2019 14:57:22 GMT -5
This may be one of the worse defensive Hoya teams that I can remember. We have subpar defenders at the 5 (Govan and Mourning) and extremely undersized at guard. Going forward, I do not see how we can play defensively with Akinjo and McClung on the court at the same time. It is too easy for teams to shoot over them from 3. We are not “extremely undersized at guard” at least in comparison to to other BE schools. The heights of the guards who have scored 30 or more against us in the Ewing era: Kamar B. 6’1” Shamaorie Ponds 6’1” Myles Powell 6’2” Chris Clemons 5’9” Andrew Rowsey 5’11” Colin Gillespie 6’3” Trevon Bluiett 6” 6” With the exception of Gillespie, Georgetown is far from the only team that have been abused by the above group. Size of our guards has nothing to do with it.
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Post by gunny on Feb 15, 2019 17:44:59 GMT -5
This may be one of the worse defensive Hoya teams that I can remember. We have subpar defenders at the 5 (Govan and Mourning) and extremely undersized at guard. Going forward, I do not see how we can play defensively with Akinjo and McClung on the court at the same time. It is too easy for teams to shoot over them from 3. We are not “extremely undersized at guard” at least in comparison to to other BE schools. The heights of the guards who have scored 30 or more against us in the Ewing era: Kamar B. 6’1” Shamaorie Ponds 6’1” Myles Powell 6’2” Chris Clemons 5’9” Andrew Rowsey 5’11” Colin Gillespie 6’3” Trevon Bluiett 6” 6” With the exception of Gillespie, Georgetown is far from the only team that have been abused by the above group. Size of our guards has nothing to do with it. I think size has a lot to do with it. When both of your guards are small (6'0" and 6'2"), then that is a problem. The list you provide above is just one of the guards per team. I think you need to look at both guards. St. John's: Ponds 6'1" and Simon 6'5" Seton Hall: Powell 6'2" and Cale 6'6" and McKnight 6'4" Creighton: Alexander 6'4", Mintz 6'3" and Ballock 6'5" Villanova: Booth and Gillespie are both 6'3" Xavier: Goodin 6'4" and Scruggs 6'5" Providence: Reeves 6'6", Duke 6'5" and Ashton-Langford 6'3" If you are giving up 2 or 3 inches then it is a lot easier to shoot over the top of our guards.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 15, 2019 18:54:46 GMT -5
Skill level and experience need to factor in. Our two are freshman. The tallest team doesn’t automatically win.
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Post by kettlehill on Feb 15, 2019 19:28:25 GMT -5
We are not “extremely undersized at guard” at least in comparison to to other BE schools. The heights of the guards who have scored 30 or more against us in the Ewing era: Kamar B. 6’1” Shamaorie Ponds 6’1” Myles Powell 6’2” Chris Clemons 5’9” Andrew Rowsey 5’11” Colin Gillespie 6’3” Trevon Bluiett 6” 6” With the exception of Gillespie, Georgetown is far from the only team that have been abused by the above group. Size of our guards has nothing to do with it. I think size has a lot to do with it. When both of your guards are small (6'0" and 6'2"), then that is a problem. The list you provide above is just one of the guards per team. I think you need to look at both guards. St. John's: Ponds 6'1" and Simon 6'5" Seton Hall: Powell 6'2" and Cale 6'6" and McKnight 6'4" Creighton: Alexander 6'4", Mintz 6'3" and Ballock 6'5" Villanova: Booth and Gillespie are both 6'3" Xavier: Goodin 6'4" and Scruggs 6'5" Providence: Reeves 6'6", Duke 6'5" and Ashton-Langford 6'3" If you are giving up 2 or 3 inches then it is a lot easier to shoot over the top of our guards. Point taken, but let’s ad Mosely and Blair at 6’3”along with Malinowski at 6’6 and we are not so small. I mean who would you rather have guard Ponds or Howard ( 5’11”): Malinowski or Akinjo? I’ll take Akinjo any day. Fact is the best guards in the BE right now are not big. This may change and Reeves and Duke do scare me, but fact is Ponds, Howard, and Powell are so good because of their experience, craftiness that is gained through time( along with natural skill, obviously). I have no doubt that the same will be said about Mac and James simply because they see it just about every game. And they want it.
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Feb 15, 2019 20:42:53 GMT -5
We are not “extremely undersized at guard” at least in comparison to to other BE schools. The heights of the guards who have scored 30 or more against us in the Ewing era: Kamar B. 6’1” Shamaorie Ponds 6’1” Myles Powell 6’2” Chris Clemons 5’9” Andrew Rowsey 5’11” Colin Gillespie 6’3” Trevon Bluiett 6” 6” With the exception of Gillespie, Georgetown is far from the only team that have been abused by the above group. Size of our guards has nothing to do with it. I think size has a lot to do with it. When both of your guards are small (6'0" and 6'2"), then that is a problem. The list you provide above is just one of the guards per team. I think you need to look at both guards. St. John's: Ponds 6'1" and Simon 6'5" Seton Hall: Powell 6'2" and Cale 6'6" and McKnight 6'4" Creighton: Alexander 6'4", Mintz 6'3" and Ballock 6'5" Villanova: Booth and Gillespie are both 6'3" Xavier: Goodin 6'4" and Scruggs 6'5" Providence: Reeves 6'6", Duke 6'5" and Ashton-Langford 6'3" If you are giving up 2 or 3 inches then it is a lot easier to shoot over the top of our guards. We went to a FF with a starting backcourt of 6’1” and 6’2”. Neither of them were any good at defense. They ranked 21st in defensive efficiency. The next year they ranked 6th. Why didn’t it matter? Rim protection, help defense, and experience. This team has none of those. Height (or lackthere of) only matters if you aren’t capable of masking it. This team isn’t capable of doing that.
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 16, 2019 0:59:57 GMT -5
Hope Nova beats the Johnies so that they are peaking when we take them down. Get ready for our first quadrant 1 win.
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Post by mdtd on Feb 16, 2019 1:30:05 GMT -5
Hope Nova beats the Johnies so that they are peaking when we take them down. Get ready for our first quadrant 1 win. You mean quadrant 1 home win? We have 3 as of now (Providence is 74 and the cap is 75, they're not going to end there imo).
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Post by aleutianhoya on Feb 16, 2019 7:50:38 GMT -5
Hope Nova beats the Johnies so that they are peaking when we take them down. Get ready for our first quadrant 1 win. You mean quadrant 1 home win? We have 3 as of now (Providence is 74 and the cap is 75, they're not going to end there imo). In fact, if we are to make a late run to and up the bubble, it will be because of our quadrant 1 record. Right now, we are 3-4 with a NET of 79. Going all the way up to a NET ranking of 30, here are the teams with either more Q1 wins or the same with fewer losses: 75. Arizona St (4-1) 51. Indiana (4-8) 49. St John's (4-4) 44. Ohio St. (4-5) 35. Texas (4-6) That's it!! It just shows how bad the bubble is.
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