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Post by bornhoya on Dec 20, 2018 19:10:23 GMT -5
We should have been going zone since the first day of practice
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Post by mfk24 on Dec 22, 2018 0:16:46 GMT -5
We should have been going zone since the first day of practice It good to have as a change of pace, but we really don’t have the backcourt length for it to be really effective. Our starting guards are what, 6’ and 6’1? It’s better along the back line but without length up top, if you have even a decent 3pt shooter that forces you to defend out to the NBA 3, the zone is spread pretty thin.
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Post by Loyal Hoya on Dec 22, 2018 8:58:50 GMT -5
I agree with everybody that says Josh needs to play more, but the biggest gap that I see between minutes and performance is Greg. I'd like to see Greg get at least 20 minutes per game, maybe more. Take some time from McClung and some from Jamarko and give it to Greg. Also, like the idea of putting Greg and Jamarko on the floor together at times.
I'd like to see Josh and Jessie at 25-35 minutes, depending on the game. Josh's time can mostly come from Trey.
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Post by calhoya on Dec 22, 2018 9:06:40 GMT -5
Think that Greg and Pickett together would present some real problems for opponents. Either Akinjo or McClung could handle the ball, as neither Greg nor Pickett have a really good handle. Combine that with LeBlanc and Govan and you have a potent offense and at least a "decent" defensive group on the floor.
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Post by prhoya on Dec 22, 2018 9:35:49 GMT -5
I agree with everybody that says Josh needs to play more, but the biggest gap that I see between minutes and performance is Greg. I'd like to see Greg get at least 20 minutes per game, maybe more. Take some time from McClung and some from Jamarko and give it to Greg. Also, like the idea of putting Greg and Jamarko on the floor together at times. I'd like to see Josh and Jessie at 25-35 minutes, depending on the game. Josh's time can mostly come from Trey. 20 mins for Govan in prep for BE...
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Post by SirSaxa on Dec 22, 2018 10:41:02 GMT -5
If we only change one thing, I'd put LeBlanc in to start the second half. We keep getting outplayed the first 5 minute of the second half. I'd like to see LeBlanc's energy on the floor from the get go.
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Post by kbones17 on Dec 23, 2018 2:18:13 GMT -5
Kaleb looked bouncier today than he has all season. I’ll admit that I had pretty much closed the book on him contributing anything of note this season. If he plays like he did today I can see him taking some of Pickett and Mourning’s waning minutes.
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Post by SirSaxa on Dec 23, 2018 9:11:41 GMT -5
Kaleb looked bouncier today than he has all season. I’ll admit that I had pretty much closed the book on him contributing anything of note this season. If he plays like he did today I can see him taking some of Pickett and Mourning’s waning minutes. I'd like to see more of yesterday's KJ too. But we also need increased productivity from Mourning and especially Pickett!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2018 10:04:27 GMT -5
We played 8 minutes w/o Govan or Carter on the floor providing us a nominal Center. (at least 8 -- I don't remember them being on court together)
That's how good Kaleb was yesterday. And how mis-shapen our lineup was last year w/ him & Jamorko at the 2/3.
Jagan & Kaleb have roles on this team, especially with our young lineup and defensive woes.
But Cheese & Crackers, Pat... get Jagan away from the ball late in the game. It's not that hard. (Jagan inbounds and stays in the backcourt on press break - drawn up that way. He shouldn't.)
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Dec 23, 2018 10:28:51 GMT -5
I honestly do not get half of the line ups we put out there. We constantly put out groups that don't mesh well.
I would love a line up of Akinjo Mac Malinowski Leblanc Govan
Sub in Pickett and blair when you need some offense or to rest the guards/wings sub in Mosley and Kaleb when you need some defenese or to rest the guards/wings Sub in Carter or Mourning when Govan needs a break.
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Post by calhoya on Dec 23, 2018 10:39:36 GMT -5
Hard to criticize either Akinjo or McClung for the number of shots they took yesterday given that both were hitting their shots and the lineup on the floor often only had two offensive threats. Great game by these kids.
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Post by mfk24 on Dec 23, 2018 10:43:40 GMT -5
I honestly do not get half of the line ups we put out there. We constantly put out groups that don't mesh well. I would love a line up of Akinjo Mac Malinowski Leblanc Govan Sub in Pickett and blair when you need some offense or to rest the guards/wings sub in Mosley and Kaleb when you need some defenese or to rest the guards/wings Sub in Carter or Mourning when Govan needs a break. Ummm, with the exception of Pickett instead of Malinowksi, that’s kinda what Pat’s been doing. Mourning is usually first to the bench with Leblanc subbing in for him. When Govan needs a blow, Mourning comes back in at the 5. When Pickett goes to the bench, Malinowksi comes in if he wants a bigger lineup with 3pt shooting or Blair comes in for a smaller lineup. If he’s not worried about offense just wants someone to compete on the defensive end and rotate the ball on offense, he brings Jagan in at one of the guard spots or what he did yesterday when we were forced to go smaller was a 3 guard lineup with Akinjo, Mac, and Mosely. He rarely had both Blair and Mosely in the game when our frogs need to settle down, but typically at least one is in the game running offense. Kaleb has kinda been the odd man out because the minutes available to him at the 4 have gone to Mourning and Leblanc. With Mourning our for this game Kaleb got lots of minutes and given our crap defense I’d prefer if he got more of Mourning’s minutes at the 4 because he’s a plus defender. Most of the substitutions have mAde sense to me with the exception of late game when he’s trying to go offense defense and doesn’t get someone back in fast enough.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Dec 24, 2018 11:33:30 GMT -5
I honestly do not get half of the line ups we put out there. We constantly put out groups that don't mesh well. I would love a line up of Akinjo Mac Malinowski Leblanc Govan Sub in Pickett and blair when you need some offense or to rest the guards/wings sub in Mosley and Kaleb when you need some defenese or to rest the guards/wings Sub in Carter or Mourning when Govan needs a break. Ummm, with the exception of Pickett instead of Malinowksi, that’s kinda what Pat’s been doing. Mourning is usually first to the bench with Leblanc subbing in for him. When Govan needs a blow, Mourning comes back in at the 5. When Pickett goes to the bench, Malinowksi comes in if he wants a bigger lineup with 3pt shooting or Blair comes in for a smaller lineup. If he’s not worried about offense just wants someone to compete on the defensive end and rotate the ball on offense, he brings Jagan in at one of the guard spots or what he did yesterday when we were forced to go smaller was a 3 guard lineup with Akinjo, Mac, and Mosely. He rarely had both Blair and Mosely in the game when our frogs need to settle down, but typically at least one is in the game running offense. Kaleb has kinda been the odd man out because the minutes available to him at the 4 have gone to Mourning and Leblanc. With Mourning our for this game Kaleb got lots of minutes and given our crap defense I’d prefer if he got more of Mourning’s minutes at the 4 because he’s a plus defender. Most of the substitutions have mAde sense to me with the exception of late game when he’s trying to go offense defense and doesn’t get someone back in fast enough. I guess what I mean is I want that starting line up to play 25-30 minutes a game with just being spelled by the bench players. I don't want Kaleb, mosley, mourning, or carter to play more than 5 minutes a game. Pickett and Blair should get 10-15 minutes a game. Never have more than 1 of Kaleb, mosley, mourning, or carter on the court at the same time. There should always be one of akinjo or mac out on the court, no Mosley and Blair back courts.
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Post by HamptonHoya on Dec 25, 2018 11:15:36 GMT -5
Ummm, with the exception of Pickett instead of Malinowksi, that’s kinda what Pat’s been doing. Mourning is usually first to the bench with Leblanc subbing in for him. When Govan needs a blow, Mourning comes back in at the 5. When Pickett goes to the bench, Malinowksi comes in if he wants a bigger lineup with 3pt shooting or Blair comes in for a smaller lineup. If he’s not worried about offense just wants someone to compete on the defensive end and rotate the ball on offense, he brings Jagan in at one of the guard spots or what he did yesterday when we were forced to go smaller was a 3 guard lineup with Akinjo, Mac, and Mosely. He rarely had both Blair and Mosely in the game when our frogs need to settle down, but typically at least one is in the game running offense. Kaleb has kinda been the odd man out because the minutes available to him at the 4 have gone to Mourning and Leblanc. With Mourning our for this game Kaleb got lots of minutes and given our crap defense I’d prefer if he got more of Mourning’s minutes at the 4 because he’s a plus defender. Most of the substitutions have mAde sense to me with the exception of late game when he’s trying to go offense defense and doesn’t get someone back in fast enough. I guess what I mean is I want that starting line up to play 25-30 minutes a game with just being spelled by the bench players. I don't want Kaleb, mosley, mourning, or carter to play more than 5 minutes a game. Pickett and Blair should get 10-15 minutes a game. Never have more than 1 of Kaleb, mosley, mourning, or carter on the court at the same time. There should always be one of akinjo or mac out on the court, no Mosley and Blair back courts. I don't know know if it is that simple. I think Coach lends substitutions with the flow of the game. The back ups need more game time to be ready for the oddities like Mourning being out with an injury, Govan getting in foul trouble and LeBlanc getting the tech and not being available. I also like LeBlanc coming off the bench to add that spark and him being in at the end of games.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Dec 25, 2018 12:22:24 GMT -5
I just hope we still land a top offensive player in the ‘19 class. Never enough offensive firepower. Looks like our two bigs coming in are still raw on the offensive side. Yurt7 can score, but I don’t expect him beyond next season.
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Post by blueandgray on Jan 2, 2019 21:41:10 GMT -5
I hate to do this.....but starting line up should look like this:
Akinjo Malinowski Pickett LeBlanc Govan
Off the bench ideally in this order:
Mac Blair Mosely Johnson Mourning Carter
In the end, much less mourning and considerably more malinowski.
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Post by thedragon on Jan 2, 2019 21:56:33 GMT -5
I hate to do this.....but starting line up should look like this: Akinjo Malinowski Pickett LeBlanc Govan Off the bench ideally in this order: Mac Blair Mosely Johnson Mourning Carter In the end, much less mourning and considerably more malinowski. I'd leave Mac as the starter but shorten the rotation. I'd make it a straight 8 man rotation in the 1st half (barring foul trouble, etc.) Akinjo Mac Pickett Leblanc Govan Under 12: Malinowski for Pickett. Blair for Mac. Mourning for Leblanc. Akinjo Blair Malinowski Mourning Govan Under 8: Mac back in for Akinjo. Leblanc in for Govan. Mac Blair Malinowski Leblanc Mourning Under 4: Akinjo back in for Blair. Govan for Mourning. Pickett back in for Malinowski (dependent on who's playing better) Akinjo Mac Malinowski/Pickett Leblanc Govan 16 minutes for Mac/Akinjo/Govan/Leblanc 8 minutes for Blair/Mourning And then a 12/8 split for Pickett/Malinowski depending on who's performing. Mosely, Kaleb and Carter can sprinkle in minutes as foul trouble or 2nd half matchups/defensive subs are needed.
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Post by hoyainla on Jan 2, 2019 21:57:30 GMT -5
I hate to do this.....but starting line up should look like this: Akinjo Malinowski Pickett LeBlanc Govan Off the bench ideally in this order: Mac Blair Mosely Johnson Mourning Carter In the end, much less mourning and considerably more malinowski. This isn't meant to call you out. You are a respected member on here but why do you "hate to do this"? Aren't we all here in hopes that the Hoyas win the most games? If that is the lineup that makes us the best then why hate it?
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Post by HOYAPLAYA on Jan 2, 2019 22:09:22 GMT -5
The Big East is wide open this year so we need to focus on what lineups get us a better chance of winning as many games as possible. I'm not worrying about anyone's feelings getting hurt and think Mac coming off the bench is about lineups and less about minutes as I still think he will get his minutes.
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Post by blueandgray on Jan 2, 2019 22:17:00 GMT -5
I hate to do this.....but starting line up should look like this: Akinjo Malinowski Pickett LeBlanc Govan Off the bench ideally in this order: Mac Blair Mosely Johnson Mourning Carter In the end, much less mourning and considerably more malinowski. This isn't meant to call you out. You are a respected member on here but why do you "hate to do this"? Aren't we all here in hopes that the Hoyas win the most games? If that is the lineup that makes us the best then why hate it? Good question. I am just conscious of being too reactive by inserting Malinowski after one big game and sitting two starters coming back from injuries. The optics of my post aren’t great. Just think that at this point, Malinowski does more things well and provides more balance for us than Mac does at the moment. As for Mourning....I am not sure there is even an argument for him to get his starting spot back in the rotation.
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