hoyaguy
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Post by hoyaguy on Nov 30, 2021 20:58:27 GMT -5
Logging back in for this particular gripe: People can't bring in a "parcel" larger than 5"x7"? What, they can't just look inside? My large hoodie and jacket don't count? And instead of complimentary lockers, they're $10? What about purses, family needs, basic work-to-game stuff? There has to be something we can do about this. I boycotted tonight's game on the spot. And do they not know they're losing more than $10 because I'm not in there buying food and drinks? Absurd. Also, it can't be a security issue. It's laziness and greed. I'd be in there tonight cheering my face off for the Hoyas, as I've done for 23 years straight. But instead the arena itself completely turned me off -- and my partner, who's a new Hoya fan. [On Edit] My younger sister is a soph at Davidson. They have an amazing on-campus arena, and a big homage to their team funded by one notable skinny kid who torched us in 2008. Where are our hoops alumni in this? Yep this trash is beginning to remind of MSG especially when the knicks and rangers are sucking on another level but still charge the most for every. Little. Thing.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 30, 2021 21:28:46 GMT -5
Rangers & Knicks at MSG is different because you have corporations purchasing prime seats and luxury boxes. You literally can’t give Hoya tickets away.
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hoyaguy
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Post by hoyaguy on Nov 30, 2021 22:27:20 GMT -5
Rangers & Knicks at MSG is different because you have corporations purchasing prime seats and luxury boxes. You literally can’t give Hoya tickets away. This is true it is not a like for like situation but I am talking more about the teams being terrible with terrible prices of every little thing inside and this drives away more fans who would rather just watch at home or not all, esp casual ones with all of this negativity stacking on top of each other and we literally gave away tickets for free to anyone including students for the first game on a Saturday and still had a pretty eh turnout
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boxout05
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Post by boxout05 on Nov 30, 2021 22:59:37 GMT -5
My beef should be easier to fix: why dark blue font against a gray kente background for the out of town scoreboard? Incredibly difficult to read across the stadium. I get that kente is part of the brand, but this shouldn’t be that hard. And, of course, the scoreboards are sponsored by GUAA so it’s like a double shot of incompetence.
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iowa80
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Post by iowa80 on Dec 1, 2021 18:03:33 GMT -5
Does anyone have any perspective on the Acela "ledge seats" at Capital One for the Hoyas? I assume they don't come with amenities, but is their location behind the basket a barrier to a decent view of the game? It's possible that my back would be better served by the seats.
TIA.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Dec 1, 2021 20:09:38 GMT -5
This. Why disincentivize going to Hoyas games when we're already struggling mightily to fill seats? There have to be better options. We're not a CapOne Arena team. We never were (yes, a few notable exceptions between 2006 and 2013 aside). I don't know about you guys, but after seeing Cuse beat Indiana in 2OT last night, and knowing their fanbase, I'm dreading 12/11. I'll go anyway because nothing says die-hard Hoya like some serious masochism, but still. Rangers & Knicks at MSG is different because you have corporations purchasing prime seats and luxury boxes. You literally can’t give Hoya tickets away. This is true it is not a like for like situation but I am talking more about the teams being terrible with terrible prices of every little thing inside and this drives away more fans who would rather just watch at home or not all, esp casual ones with all of this negativity stacking on top of each other and we literally gave away tickets for free to anyone including students for the first game on a Saturday and still had a pretty eh turnout
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iowa80
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Post by iowa80 on Dec 1, 2021 20:24:06 GMT -5
Rangers & Knicks at MSG is different because you have corporations purchasing prime seats and luxury boxes. You literally can’t give Hoya tickets away. I get your point, but having just checked StubHub etc for good seats for some "mediocre" future games, it seems those holders have delusions of grandeur. $100 plus for sections 100 & 111? Who pays that?
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hoya59er
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Post by hoya59er on Dec 1, 2021 20:28:22 GMT -5
DeGioia better make this a top priority. Attendance is going to be a disaster. It will eventually affect team morale and definitely recruiting!
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hoyaboy1
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Dec 1, 2021 20:42:55 GMT -5
The non-game experience at Capital One has never been great, but it's become comically terrible at this point.
You can't bring in anything larger than a wallet, our pre-game hype video is less exciting than a random TikTok post, the mascot's body and head don't match, you can't read the out of town scoreboard because of absurd font color and background choices, no decent concessions are open, the band and cheerleaders have been doing the same things for 10+ years, there is no creative entertainment during timeouts or halftime, and they don't even have the t-shirt launcher anymore. Jack riding the little SUV is fine, but nowhere near the old box eating.
I'm a long-time season ticket holder and will go to every game no matter what, but this kind of stuff can't be helping attendance, and we obviously need all the help we can get given the marginal on-court product. There were roughly 50 students there last night, a few season ticket holders, and likely barely any casual fans.
Who exactly is in charge of this stuff? Maybe if we fixed some of it we could at least find takers for free tickets.
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guru
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Post by guru on Dec 1, 2021 21:27:22 GMT -5
It has to be among the worst atmospheres in all of sports.
It’s just unspeakably bad - and the previous poster is right: it’s so empty now that you could feel embarrassed/stupid for even being there, and there’s a definite cringe factor for players who have to call that their home crowd.
In sum, IT STINKS. FIX IT!
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hoya73
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Post by hoya73 on Dec 2, 2021 7:59:05 GMT -5
Does anyone have any perspective on the Acela "ledge seats" at Capital One for the Hoyas? I assume they don't come with amenities, but is their location behind the basket a barrier to a decent view of the game? It's possible that my back would be better served by the seats. TIA. While usually in season seats in the lower bowl, I switched to the ledge to let a guest use my season ticket in a game against Butler the year before the pandemic. As far as amenities the only thing was a close by feeding station. Not sure those are open this year. As far as view of the game, it was unobstructed and ... different. Lower bowl gives my old eyes a closer look at details of individual play. Behind the basket and higher up gave my brain a better picture of how plays developed, offensively and defensively, as either team brought the ball up court.
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boxout05
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Post by boxout05 on Dec 2, 2021 9:14:45 GMT -5
Jack riding the little SUV is fine, but nowhere near the old box eating. I didn’t notice a sponsorship associated with the power wheels segment, which … is not a good sign. I assume that’s money that would have went into the school’s pockets but can anyone confirm? Will keep an eye out next few games to see if that was a blip and/or how many other revenue opportunities dried up.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Dec 2, 2021 9:24:20 GMT -5
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Dec 2, 2021 9:25:07 GMT -5
Jack riding the little SUV is fine, but nowhere near the old box eating. I didn’t notice a sponsorship associated with the power wheels segment, which … is not a good sign. I assume that’s money that would have went into the school’s pockets but can anyone confirm? Will keep an eye out next few games to see if that was a blip and/or how many other revenue opportunities dried up.
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guru
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Post by guru on Dec 2, 2021 9:34:09 GMT -5
It’s so embarrassing for the entire program. There is almost zero fan base for this program at the moment. It’s this board, family members of the present players, and that’s pretty much it.
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Dec 2, 2021 12:56:34 GMT -5
It’s so embarrassing for the entire program. There is almost zero fan base for this program at the moment. It’s this board, family members of the present players, and that’s pretty much it. There are also some Thompson family sycophants, they get good seats along the baselines and behind the bench...but that might be double counting with some of the people on "this board".
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Post by HoyaRejuveNation85 on Dec 2, 2021 20:31:18 GMT -5
Just win. It solves a lot of problems.
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Post by LoudSoundOfREBOUND on Dec 2, 2021 21:57:48 GMT -5
You get an electric environment (and I would think a better presentation for recruits) by packing the house (or coming close). If you aren't doing that you need to either a) somehow get more people or b) shrink the "house.".I think so long as Georgetown plays at CapOne (which doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon), they need to become a team for the city rather than the school, figuratively of course. I don't think the school/alumni alone can be counted on to turn that arena into the venue we want it to be given midweek games on the other side of the city. The problem then lies with the team drawing any kind of local attention through either performance or promotion. As HoyaRejuveNation said, winning would solve a lot of these problems. In the meantime, I hope we can continue to draw recruits despite the poor turnout.
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hoyainla
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Post by hoyainla on Dec 2, 2021 21:59:46 GMT -5
You cant keep serving people dog food but telling them it's caviar and expect them to eat it.
All possible momentum was lost when we couldn't beat a mediocre Ivy League school in the first game.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Dec 2, 2021 22:35:33 GMT -5
You get an electric environment (and I would think a better presentation for recruits) by packing the house (or coming close). If you aren't doing that you need to either a) somehow get more people or b) shrink the "house.".I think so long as Georgetown plays at CapOne (which doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon), they need to become a team for the city rather than the school, figuratively of course. I don't think the school/alumni alone can be counted on to turn that arena into the venue we want it to be given midweek games on the other side of the city. The problem then lies with the team drawing any kind of local attention through either performance or promotion. As HoyaRejuveNation said, winning would solve a lot of these problems. In the meantime, I hope we can continue to draw recruits despite the poor turnout. Some interesting thoughts. Three questions: 1. Re: "a team for the city", what "city" are we referring to? The Georgetown crowd? The 100,000 new residents since 2000? The under-30 crowd living along the Green Line? Or just the older residents in Southeast? DC has changed a lot in the last two decades and I'm not sure Georgetown Basketball has the same touchpoint to DC residents in the past, and I would say the same about the Redskins. The most ardent fans in the area may be Caps fans, and that's not the regional demo Georgetown ever sought, notwithstanding that it has ties with Monumental to the Wizards and Capitals which would be optimal for cross-promotion. 2. Depending on how you count it, there are as many as 60,000 Georgetown alumni in the National Capital Region. What does Georgetown to engage these alumni? How many grads maintain enough engagement that they would actually buy tickets? If not, why not? 3. Local attention is not just performance or promotion, but connections. Georgetown's best attendance period was 2010-12, when GU could draw 10,000 to see Tulane or NC Asheville. Today, it wouldn't break 4,000. Georgetown had local talent that people knew about: Freeman, Wright, Vaughn, Clark, Starks, Benimon, etc. The only undergraduate on this team with more than a year in the local high school system is Victor Muresan, and no one is buying tickets to see him right now. After five years, Ewing and his staff just haven't connected with local prospects, and are more comfortable with signees from South Carolina and Georgia than the WCAC or the DCIAA.
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