sleepy
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Post by sleepy on Apr 6, 2017 9:23:21 GMT -5
I don't know if it makes any difference that Waters still has a signed LOI with Georgetown, so is he even subject to contact rules with us? I'm pretty sure normal rules don't apply once a players signs his LOI.
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Post by hoyacane11 on Apr 6, 2017 9:25:35 GMT -5
I don't know if it makes any difference that Waters still has a signed LOI with Georgetown, so is he even subject to contact rules with us? Students are still considered prospects even if they have signed a National Letter of Intent or any other financial aid agreement with a university.
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Post by sleepy on Apr 6, 2017 9:27:57 GMT -5
I don't know if it makes any difference that Waters still has a signed LOI with Georgetown, so is he even subject to contact rules with us? Students are still considered prospects even if they have signed a National Letter of Intent or any other financial aid agreement with a university. That's not accurate. Once a player signs their LOI a lot of the restrictive recruiting rules change. For instance, a coach is allowed to talk about them publically to the media and I believe talk to them outside the recruiting period.
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Post by hoyacane11 on Apr 6, 2017 9:29:18 GMT -5
Students are still considered prospects even if they have signed a National Letter of Intent or any other financial aid agreement with a university. That's not accurate. Once a player signs their LOI a lot of the restrictive recruiting rules change. For instance, a coach is allowed to talk about them publically to the media and I believe talk to them outside the recruiting period. Correct, a coach can, but Iverson couldn't.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 6, 2017 9:34:26 GMT -5
That's not accurate. Once a player signs their LOI a lot of the restrictive recruiting rules change. For instance, a coach is allowed to talk about them publically to the media and I believe talk to them outside the recruiting period. Correct, a coach can, but Iverson couldn't. What about Walker, who has no connection with Georgetown?
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Post by hoyacane11 on Apr 6, 2017 9:38:36 GMT -5
Correct, a coach can, but Iverson couldn't. What about Walker, who has no connection with Georgetown? Walker hasn't, nor is he currently representing the University in any way and I seriously doubt if he contributed, so he should be able to talk to Waters. I hope Ewing asks him. He may not even have to. I just think Waters saw a sinking ship with III, saw him getting fired, and didn't know who was coming, so he asked out. Now that he knows who we have, Ewing shouldn't have much of a problem bringing him back after he explains how he could thrive in his offense. jmo
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Post by thedragon on Apr 6, 2017 9:42:43 GMT -5
Who knows if Tremont will come back in the fold - but what I do know is that Ive learned more about the Hoya program in 24 hours of Ewing that I have in the past 24 months of JT3.
It would have been more likely that Susan Rice "unmasked" the plan or Nunes had a press conference about it than the previous staff giving out that info.
The real talk on scheduling, the expectations for next years team, etc. is also refreshing.
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Post by seaweed on Apr 6, 2017 9:47:49 GMT -5
All this chit-chat underscores the importance of having a rules pro on staff. If we somehow screw this up and it affects Waters eligibility, what a mess.
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Post by iheartdurenbros on Apr 6, 2017 9:49:55 GMT -5
Someone from SID was listening. And, I bet the compliance officer can cut Pat off at the pass.
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Post by prhoya on Apr 6, 2017 9:52:25 GMT -5
What about Walker, who has no connection with Georgetown? Walker hasn't, nor is he currently representing the University in any way and I seriously doubt if he contributed, so he should be able to talk to Waters. I hope Ewing asks him. He may not even have to. I just think Waters saw a sinking ship with III, saw him getting fired, and didn't know who was coming, so he asked out.
That, plus the high-profile transfers of White and Ike. Trey's announcement? Other players? When he signed, it looked like a loaded team for his freshman year.
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Post by hoyacane11 on Apr 6, 2017 9:57:12 GMT -5
All this chit-chat underscores the importance of having a rules pro on staff. If we somehow screw this up and it affects Waters eligibility, what a mess. Prayers if you don't think they already have that in place. lol Every school has a compliance officer. That's not a basketball staff position.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Apr 6, 2017 10:05:10 GMT -5
All this chit-chat underscores the importance of having a rules pro on staff. If we somehow screw this up and it affects Waters eligibility, what a mess. Before we worry about violations, context is important. I posted this in the Waters thread, but it's possible that he was talking about after Waters arrives on campus. The actual quote was in response to a question about whether there was a spot for Iverson on the staff. Ewing said "I'm not sure if there's a spot on the staff, but he's always welcome. I'm going to use him everywhere I can. There's a kid down there in Connecticut who's a big fan of his. He had committed to Georgetown but when JT3 got let go he wanted us to release him. I know he's a big Allen fan, but at some point I'm going to try to get Allen and him together either over the phone or in person."
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Post by iheartdurenbros on Apr 6, 2017 10:09:49 GMT -5
All this chit-chat underscores the importance of having a rules pro on staff. If we somehow screw this up and it affects Waters eligibility, what a mess. Before we worry about violations, context is important. I posted this in the Waters thread, but it's possible that he was talking about after Waters arrives on campus. The actual quote was in response to a question about whether there was a spot for Iverson on the staff. Ewing said "I'm not sure if there's a spot on the staff, but he's always welcome. I'm going to use him everywhere I can. There's a kid down there in Connecticut who's a big fan of his. He had committed to Georgetown but when JT3 got let go he wanted us to release him. I know he's a big Allen fan, but at some point I'm going to try to get Allen and him together either over the phone or in person." Thanks for this. That would not be a violation! I was beginning to wonder whether he may have been too naive for college recruiting. I guess not.
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Post by hoyacane11 on Apr 6, 2017 10:10:00 GMT -5
All this chit-chat underscores the importance of having a rules pro on staff. If we somehow screw this up and it affects Waters eligibility, what a mess. Before we worry about violations, context is important. I posted this in the Waters thread, but it's possible that he was talking about after Waters arrives on campus. The actual quote was in response to a question about whether there was a spot for Iverson on the staff. Ewing said "I'm not sure if there's a spot on the staff, but he's always welcome. I'm going to use him everywhere I can. There's a kid down there in Connecticut who's a big fan of his. He had committed to Georgetown but when JT3 got let go he wanted us to release him. I know he's a big Allen fan, but at some point I'm going to try to get Allen and him together either over the phone or in person." He probably received a phone call as soon as that interview was over. Trust me, they have Ewing under a microscope making sure he is doing everything right in order to avoid minor or major violations.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 6, 2017 10:15:16 GMT -5
I am quite satisfied with the way the university has been handling the PR surrounding Ewing's hire, and Ewing's willingness (perhaps desire) to do several interviews and answer a lot of questions. Even his comments on seeing Waters on Friday are virtually unheard of, and I thought that he was expressing a lot of candor by acknowledging that certain players were possibly going to transfer. Those are the sorts of things that would have never come out of JT3 or his staff.
Ewing has spent his entire career after Georgetown entirely as a high profile NBA player, or assistant coach. He is obviously well-versed in dealing with media (it doesn't get rougher than the NY sports media, especially in the era when he was a player), and I think professional sports have a culture of a lot of transparency, contrary to college sports, which do not have the same level of openness.
Anyway, I think it's a good thing and I hope Ewing continues to use the media more effectively than his predecessors.
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Post by hoyacane11 on Apr 6, 2017 10:22:23 GMT -5
I am quite satisfied with the way the university has been handling the PR surrounding Ewing's hire, and Ewing's willingness (perhaps desire) to do several interviews and answer a lot of questions. Even his comments on seeing Waters on Friday are virtually unheard of, and I thought that he was expressing a lot of candor by acknowledging that certain players were possibly going to transfer. Those are the sorts of things that would have never come out of JT3 or his staff. Ewing has spent his entire career after Georgetown entirely as a high profile NBA player, or assistant coach. He is obviously well-versed in dealing with media (it doesn't get rougher than the NY sports media, especially in the era when he was a player), and I think professional sports have a culture of a lot of transparency, contrary to college sports, which do not have the same level of openness. Anyway, I think it's a good thing and I hope Ewing continues to use the media more effectively than his predecessors. True, and he's doing a very good job of this so far and will only get better. He should hit up every media outlet and show he can. The more exposure to let recruits know more about him and his style of play, the better.
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Post by jwp91 on Apr 6, 2017 11:01:14 GMT -5
Ewing is in the honeymoon period. Authentic candor can be quite helpful to him as we are observing. When the honeymoon is over, he may want to be a bit more guarded with his comments.
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Post by seaweed on Apr 6, 2017 11:18:40 GMT -5
Before we worry about violations, context is important. I posted this in the Waters thread, but it's possible that he was talking about after Waters arrives on campus. The actual quote was in response to a question about whether there was a spot for Iverson on the staff. Ewing said "I'm not sure if there's a spot on the staff, but he's always welcome. I'm going to use him everywhere I can. There's a kid down there in Connecticut who's a big fan of his. He had committed to Georgetown but when JT3 got let go he wanted us to release him. I know he's a big Allen fan, but at some point I'm going to try to get Allen and him together either over the phone or in person." He probably received a phone call as soon as that interview was over. Trust me, they have Ewing under a microscope making sure he is doing everything right in order to avoid minor or major violations. but at least now you can see what i was getting at?
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 6, 2017 11:31:49 GMT -5
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Post by This Just In on Apr 6, 2017 11:43:49 GMT -5
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