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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 6, 2017 3:56:39 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 6, 2017 5:12:52 GMT -5
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Post by richfame on Apr 6, 2017 5:54:08 GMT -5
I'm hoping for more transparency about the program. For example if there's injuries etc. Most programs are pretty forth coming. Will the Ewing administration change these things??
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Post by Cambridge on Apr 6, 2017 7:51:40 GMT -5
MD's issue is a lack of athleticism. Perhaps more of that than I expect was injury related, but if not, his lack of hops and quickness will make it tough for him to be super effective. MD also seemed to have never been taught or drilled effectively on how to defend without using his hands. I've never seen someone pick up so many unnecessary and avoidable handcheck fouls. Part of this may have been athleticism or fitness (i.e. can't stay with his man) but many times it occurred while his man was relatively stationary and it seemed like MD just lost focus or lapsed into bad habits. I think a strong defensive coach could at least make him serviceable or at the very least cut down on stupid fouls so he stays on the court longer/keeps us out of foul trouble. That would be a huge improvement.
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Post by This Just In on Apr 6, 2017 7:52:27 GMT -5
Jay Williams nails the concerns many of us have here... The biggest knock on Ewing is his personality that is not very communicative; many are stating that what deterred him from getting a HC job in the NBA. If he was not communicative in the pros scene, I cannot imagine him being communicative with 14, 15, 16 years olds and their parents/coaches. You may see a few 4 star and 5 star players getting excited about meeting Ewing, but those star players also have big self-ego and is Ewing going to be the person who is going to cater up to their ego? If Ewing hires good assistants and leverages his NBA experiences/his name/reputation and the association of the star players to come visit those top recruits and snatch them up, many will be proven wrong, but at the same time exhilarated. But until we see some results from 2017 and 2018 classes, not gonna get the hopes up Thanks for the post Cosmopolitanhoya, I like to hear both sides of the issue. Another concern I heard from a coach was player development. Patrick Ewing was Dwight's Howard's "Personal Position Coach" with the Orlando Magic and the issue was Howard's game never developed... Dwight Howard lacks all the essentials that made Patrick Ewing great 1. A back to the basket game 2. No jump shot 3. Poor free throw shooter All of Dwight Howard's points come from dunks or layups This was the coach's quote: "Shaq stated Dwight Howard should be dominating the NBA... I know Ewing sees the holes in his game that I am seeing in Howard's game. Why is his game not developing? Why is Dwight Howard still one dimensional on offense?"
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Post by vv83 on Apr 6, 2017 7:56:25 GMT -5
Ewing was just on with Mike and Mike - really good interview. He comes across as bright, accessible, honest, humble, confident. And more then anything else - he just comes across as a really good guy. Nothing feels forced or like "coach speak". And and none of the sense of guarded "hoya paranoia" (in the negative, "give nothing to the press/public" sense of the term) that has been so frustrating to fans over the years. It really does seem that the public face of the program is likely to be quite different with Ewing in charge.
The way he talked about not being able to hire his son was a good example. He clearly would love to have his son on the staff, but he accepts the University policy, and he'll be working to help Pat jr. find a job - using his NBA contacts. The way he discussed this with Mike and Mike was better than yesterday with the Junkies and Dan Patrick, now that he has had some time to think about it. It did not even feel like an issue after Patrick finished up the discussion today.
The only real news out of the interview was that Ewing is flying to Connecticut on Friday to talk with Waters - fingers crossed!
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 6, 2017 7:57:49 GMT -5
Jay Williams nails the concerns many of us have here... The biggest knock on Ewing is his personality that is not very communicative; many are stating that what deterred him from getting a HC job in the NBA. If he was not communicative in the pros scene, I cannot imagine him being communicative with 14, 15, 16 years olds and their parents/coaches. You may see a few 4 star and 5 star players getting excited about meeting Ewing, but those star players also have big self-ego and is Ewing going to be the person who is going to cater up to their ego? If Ewing hires good assistants and leverages his NBA experiences/his name/reputation and the association of the star players to come visit those top recruits and snatch them up, many will be proven wrong, but at the same time exhilarated. But until we see some results from 2017 and 2018 classes, not gonna get the hopes up Thanks for the post Cosmopolitanhoya, I like to hear both sides of the issue. Another concern I heard from a coach was player development. Patrick Ewing was Dwight's Howard's "Personal Position Coach" with the Orlando Magic and the issue was Howard's game never developed... Dwight Howard lacks all the essentials that made Patrick Ewing great 1. A back to the basket game 2. No jump shot 3. Poor free throw shooter All of Dwight Howard's points come from dunks or layups This was the coach's quote: "Shaq stated Dwight Howard should be dominating the NBA... I know Ewing sees the holes in his game that I am seeing in Howard's game. Why is his game not developing? Why is Dwight Howard still one dimensional on offense?" Olajuwon has been his coach for quite some time and Howard hasn't developed under him either. Howard just seems really slow in picking up things.
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Post by iheartdurenbros on Apr 6, 2017 8:06:13 GMT -5
Sometimes it's the player. No one should blame Howard's coaches for his play.
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Post by Cambridge on Apr 6, 2017 8:08:05 GMT -5
Thanks for the post Cosmopolitanhoya, I like to hear both sides of the issue. Another concern I heard from a coach was player development. Patrick Ewing was Dwight's Howard's "Personal Position Coach" with the Orlando Magic and the issue was Howard's game never developed... Dwight Howard lacks all the essentials that made Patrick Ewing great 1. A back to the basket game 2. No jump shot 3. Poor free throw shooter All of Dwight Howard's points come from dunks or layups This was the coach's quote: "Shaq stated Dwight Howard should be dominating the NBA... I know Ewing sees the holes in his game that I am seeing in Howard's game. Why is his game not developing? Why is Dwight Howard still one dimensional on offense?" Fair enough, but you should also consider that during Patrick's time in Orlando (2007-2012), DH put up his best numbers by far in traditional stats like offensive rebounding, defensive rebounding, blocks, steals, trips to the line, and points per game. It's even more stark when you look at advanced stats. His Defensive Win Shares were beween 2-3 points higher during the Patrick years than the years before and after. Same with his Offensive Win Shares. So was his VORP. Oh - and DH's shooting percentage for jumpers between 3-10 feet and 10-16 feet was also highest during Patrick's tenure. In fact, just about all of his stats were noticeably worse before Patrick came on staff, improved dramatically during Patrick's time, and declined quickly after he left the staff. Maybe that was just the peak of DH's career, maybe it had to do at least in part his work with Patrick. I don't know, but Patrick was there when DH seemed like a super hero. www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/howardw01.html
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Post by hoyacane11 on Apr 6, 2017 8:13:19 GMT -5
Sometimes it's the player. No one should blame Howard's coaches for his play. Bingo!!! Just ask Kobe Bryant about Howard's work ethic. If two of the greatest centers to ever play coach you and you don't get better, you are the problem.
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Post by hoya2x2010 on Apr 6, 2017 8:13:31 GMT -5
Jay Williams nails the concerns many of us have here... The biggest knock on Ewing is his personality that is not very communicative; many are stating that what deterred him from getting a HC job in the NBA. If he was not communicative in the pros scene, I cannot imagine him being communicative with 14, 15, 16 years olds and their parents/coaches. You may see a few 4 star and 5 star players getting excited about meeting Ewing, but those star players also have big self-ego and is Ewing going to be the person who is going to cater up to their ego? If Ewing hires good assistants and leverages his NBA experiences/his name/reputation and the association of the star players to come visit those top recruits and snatch them up, many will be proven wrong, but at the same time exhilarated. But until we see some results from 2017 and 2018 classes, not gonna get the hopes up Thanks for the post Cosmopolitanhoya, I like to hear both sides of the issue. Another concern I heard from a coach was player development. Patrick Ewing was Dwight's Howard's "Personal Position Coach" with the Orlando Magic and the issue was Howard's game never developed... Dwight Howard lacks all the essentials that made Patrick Ewing great 1. A back to the basket game 2. No jump shot 3. Poor free throw shooter All of Dwight Howard's points come from dunks or layups This was the coach's quote: "Shaq stated Dwight Howard should be dominating the NBA... I know Ewing sees the holes in his game that I am seeing in Howard's game. Why is his game not developing? Why is Dwight Howard still one dimensional on offense?" Valid points re: Dwight, but then again, he's a going to the HOF when his career is finished. Granted, he didn't reach his ceiling, but it's not like he's been a bust. There's also a difference between a guy who knows he's got $200mm+ in the bag and doesn't have much natural drive, and college kids who still need to work to reach their dream.
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Post by Elvado on Apr 6, 2017 8:23:40 GMT -5
Jay Williams nails the concerns many of us have here... The biggest knock on Ewing is his personality that is not very communicative; many are stating that what deterred him from getting a HC job in the NBA. If he was not communicative in the pros scene, I cannot imagine him being communicative with 14, 15, 16 years olds and their parents/coaches. You may see a few 4 star and 5 star players getting excited about meeting Ewing, but those star players also have big self-ego and is Ewing going to be the person who is going to cater up to their ego? If Ewing hires good assistants and leverages his NBA experiences/his name/reputation and the association of the star players to come visit those top recruits and snatch them up, many will be proven wrong, but at the same time exhilarated. But until we see some results from 2017 and 2018 classes, not gonna get the hopes up Thanks for the post Cosmopolitanhoya, I like to hear both sides of the issue. Another concern I heard from a coach was player development. Patrick Ewing was Dwight's Howard's "Personal Position Coach" with the Orlando Magic and the issue was Howard's game never developed... Dwight Howard lacks all the essentials that made Patrick Ewing great 1. A back to the basket game 2. No jump shot 3. Poor free throw shooter All of Dwight Howard's points come from dunks or layups This was the coach's quote: "Shaq stated Dwight Howard should be dominating the NBA... I know Ewing sees the holes in his game that I am seeing in Howard's game. Why is his game not developing? Why is Dwight Howard still one dimensional on offense?" And we care about Jay Williams' opinion why? The only advice I want from him is to stay off motorcycles. Screw him and his opinions.
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Post by hoyapac on Apr 6, 2017 8:33:09 GMT -5
Ewing was just on with Mike and Mike - really good interview. He comes across as bright, accessible, honest, humble, confident. And more then anything else - he just comes across as a really good guy. Nothing feels forced or like "coach speak". And and none of the sense of guarded "hoya paranoia" (in the negative, "give nothing to the press/public" sense of the term) that has been so frustrating to fans over the years. It really does seem that the public face of the program is likely to be quite different with Ewing in charge. The way he talked about not being able to hire his son was a good example. He clearly would love to have his son on the staff, but he accepts the University policy, and he'll be working to help Pat jr. find a job - using his NBA contacts. The way he discussed this with Mike and Mike was better than yesterday with the Junkies and Dan Patrick, now that he has had some time to think about it. It did not even feel like an issue after Patrick finished up the discussion today. The only real news out of the interview was that Ewing is flying to Connecticut on Friday to talk with Waters - fingers crossed! For the love of god get Kemba Walker or Allen Iverson on speaker phone for this meeting.
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Post by hoyacane11 on Apr 6, 2017 8:37:06 GMT -5
Ewing was just on with Mike and Mike - really good interview. He comes across as bright, accessible, honest, humble, confident. And more then anything else - he just comes across as a really good guy. Nothing feels forced or like "coach speak". And and none of the sense of guarded "hoya paranoia" (in the negative, "give nothing to the press/public" sense of the term) that has been so frustrating to fans over the years. It really does seem that the public face of the program is likely to be quite different with Ewing in charge. The way he talked about not being able to hire his son was a good example. He clearly would love to have his son on the staff, but he accepts the University policy, and he'll be working to help Pat jr. find a job - using his NBA contacts. The way he discussed this with Mike and Mike was better than yesterday with the Junkies and Dan Patrick, now that he has had some time to think about it. It did not even feel like an issue after Patrick finished up the discussion today. The only real news out of the interview was that Ewing is flying to Connecticut on Friday to talk with Waters - fingers crossed! For the love of god get Kemba Walker or Allen Iverson on speaker phone for this meeting. I'm sure he will have at least one of them talk to him. 2 would be icing on the cake. I'm just glad he's making Waters first priority. He will thrive in Ewing's style of offense.
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Post by hoyacane11 on Apr 6, 2017 8:42:38 GMT -5
Guys if you want to see some of the sets we may run next year, check out a few Charlotte Hornet games. I love the fact that he will incorporate more pick and roll.
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Post by BigmanU on Apr 6, 2017 8:53:57 GMT -5
For the love of god get Kemba Walker or Allen Iverson on speaker phone for this meeting. I'm sure he will have at least one of them talk to him. 2 would be icing on the cake. I'm just glad he's making Waters first priority. He will thrive in Ewing's style of offense. Is this a violation? I keep thinking that would do the trick but they aren't on the staff. Is that just during non contact periods? I remember the story of Pat walking back & forth past Zo without saying a word.
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Post by jwp91 on Apr 6, 2017 8:54:10 GMT -5
Ewing was just on with Mike and Mike - really good interview. He comes across as bright, accessible, honest, humble, confident. And more then anything else - he just comes across as a really good guy. Nothing feels forced or like "coach speak". And and none of the sense of guarded "hoya paranoia" (in the negative, "give nothing to the press/public" sense of the term) that has been so frustrating to fans over the years. It really does seem that the public face of the program is likely to be quite different with Ewing in charge. The way he talked about not being able to hire his son was a good example. He clearly would love to have his son on the staff, but he accepts the University policy, and he'll be working to help Pat jr. find a job - using his NBA contacts. The way he discussed this with Mike and Mike was better than yesterday with the Junkies and Dan Patrick, now that he has had some time to think about it. It did not even feel like an issue after Patrick finished up the discussion today. The only real news out of the interview was that Ewing is flying to Connecticut on Friday to talk with Waters - fingers crossed! For the love of god get Kemba Walker or Allen Iverson on speaker phone for this meeting. Not sure I want Kemba Walker talking unsupervised to the CT kid who has re-opened his recruitment...
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Post by hoyacane11 on Apr 6, 2017 9:02:06 GMT -5
I'm sure he will have at least one of them talk to him. 2 would be icing on the cake. I'm just glad he's making Waters first priority. He will thrive in Ewing's style of offense. Is this a violation? I keep thinking that would do the trick but they aren't on the staff. Is that just during non contact periods? I remember the story of Pat walking back & forth past Zo without saying a word. If it's during a contact period, it's not a violation as long as they're not providing any impermissible benefits. With Pat walking by Zo, no words are necessary. lol
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Post by hoyacane11 on Apr 6, 2017 9:19:19 GMT -5
Bigman, I just thought about this. Iverson can't speak with him because more than likely he has donated money to the school and was and can still be considered a representative of the school. When Ewing invites him back on campus, Iverson can do a walk by like PE did Zo, but add a wink. lol
I haven't seen anything that says Kemba couldn't say anything to him though.
Boosters, referred to by the NCAA as “representatives of the institution’s athletic interests,” include anyone who has: •Provided a donation in order to obtain season tickets for any sport at the university. •Participated in or has been a member of an organization promoting the university’s athletics programs. •Made financial contributions to the athletic department or to a university booster organization. •Arranged for or provided employment for enrolled student-athletes. •Assisted or has been requested by university staff to assist in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes. •Assisted in providing benefits to enrolled student athletes or their families. •Been involved otherwise in promoting university athletics.
Once an individual is identified as a “representative of the institution’s athletics interests,” the person retains that identity forever. Only institutional staff members are permitted to recruit prospective student-athletes. Generally, NCAA rules prohibit anyone else from contacting (calling, writing or in-person contact) prospects or the prospect’s relatives or guardian for recruiting purposes. Students are still considered prospects even if they have signed a National Letter of Intent or any other financial aid agreement with a university. Boosters are not precluded from continuing established friendships with families who have prospective student-athletes. However, boosters may not encourage a prospect’s participation in university athletics or provide benefits to prospects that were not previously provided. If a violation occurs, it may jeopardize a student-athlete’s eligibility for intercollegiate competition, jeopardize a school’s membership status with the NCAA or cause a booster to lose access to all booster benefits.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 6, 2017 9:19:24 GMT -5
I don't know if it makes any difference that Waters still has a signed LOI with Georgetown, so is he even subject to contact rules with us?
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