dreamhoya
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Post by dreamhoya on Feb 1, 2017 13:34:08 GMT -5
Late thoughts: (1) Game-saving job from Reggie. His time has been limited all year because, well, he is limited (as we all know). He nearly transferred. And then our backup five goes out with injury and our backup four sits with foul issues. Great job on the defensive glass with simple positional awareness and fundamentals. Good job calmly taking part in the offense and hitting a big three. If this season (somehow) is saved, Reggie should be a hero of the telling. (2). I loved taking things away from Garrett at the end. Sure, excellent player that he is, he showed terrific poise against the trap finding the walk-on for the contested layup, and on the last play made a tough pass to lead to a possible tying shot. But we made others' beat us. And they couldn't. Sometimes good schemes work and sometimes they don't. Sometimes bad schemes work! Even if that last three had gone in and they tied it, this was absolutely the right move. And was well-executed. (3). I'm intrigued by the amoeba matchup zone. We have used it some in prior games. You would think a D like that would take far more communication and discipline than a regular zone. And to be fair, it's not like we shut them down while playing it. Something to watch for. Might be a weapon against Nova to try, if only to make them think some. (4). I'm resigned to the fact that our rebounding stinks. But we need to eliminate the awful turnovers. We have a good enough offensive team (at least as of late) where if we just get a shot off, we have a decent chance of points. I don't mind the turnovers of aggression within reason. But we just had way too many awful ones last night. (5). The late first half charge on LJ was game changing. We could have been up five at the half with LJ ready to play 18 minutes in the second. I think we likely would have rolled from there. Reggie is less limited than most think. JTIII's rotations have baffled me during his tenure. Maybe he shouldn't be starting but he should be getting a lot more minutes because he seems to be one of the few who "gets it" on this team. Big play when he got that rebound late. The other guys had been standing around watching the ball all game. JT needs his seniors to step up. OH i wish this team had a monster in the middle even if he couldn't score much. Btw i think Depaul's defense was good. They took away the Princeton elements.
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Post by dreamhoya on Feb 1, 2017 13:38:16 GMT -5
Hope Hayes is not injured but I was not surprised that he did not play last night even without an injury. He is slow on his recovery once the trap is used to stop the pg from penetrating. Garrett is a big pg unlike the Creighton and Butler pg's. He would have either split the trap with Hayes and Hoya pg or waited to Hayes retreated and went to the basket behind him. Agau was the better substitution for Govan in this game. His footwork is much better than Hayes. I too was happy to see Reggie play some real positive minutes for the Hoyas even though he did not score many points. I felt sorry for Campbell though. The young man's value to the team at this point is his ability to hit the open 3pt shot. Last night in his limited time I saw two open shots he had, but he did not shoot. I have to think it was from a lack of confidence in his shot. The young man has to realize that barring injury he is not going to be the starting pg for the Hoyas for reasons already discussed in other posts, but like Reggie he has a skill(3pt shot) that if he makes it reliable, can really help the team. Right now he is only a spot up 3pt shooter and even that is not that reliable. He should work on coming off a pick and rising up to hit that shot. Hayes could have definitely been used in key spots.
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 1, 2017 14:35:23 GMT -5
And I've said this before in prior years, but I'll say it again: A staple of the Princeton offense is reversing the post and having the guards dive down and post up. But we very infrequently do it. LJ would seem to have an outstanding set of skills to make that work and you would think Rodney would too with his shooting and leaping ability. Especially when those two are being well-defended off the bounce, I'd love to see us get them involved that way. The only times I can think of us reversing the post one Hayes pass to Mosely and one Hayes pass to Kaleb. Neither was successful, nor do I understand why those were the two guards that we tried it with.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 1, 2017 15:24:36 GMT -5
Late thoughts: (1) Game-saving job from Reggie. His time has been limited all year because, well, he is limited (as we all know). He nearly transferred. And then our backup five goes out with injury and our backup four sits with foul issues. Great job on the defensive glass with simple positional awareness and fundamentals. Good job calmly taking part in the offense and hitting a big three. If this season (somehow) is saved, Reggie should be a hero of the telling. (2). I loved taking things away from Garrett at the end. Sure, excellent player that he is, he showed terrific poise against the trap finding the walk-on for the contested layup, and on the last play made a tough pass to lead to a possible tying shot. But we made others' beat us. And they couldn't. Sometimes good schemes work and sometimes they don't. Sometimes bad schemes work! Even if that last three had gone in and they tied it, this was absolutely the right move. And was well-executed. (3). I'm intrigued by the amoeba matchup zone. We have used it some in prior games. You would think a D like that would take far more communication and discipline than a regular zone. And to be fair, it's not like we shut them down while playing it. Something to watch for. Might be a weapon against Nova to try, if only to make them think some. (4). I'm resigned to the fact that our rebounding stinks. But we need to eliminate the awful turnovers. We have a good enough offensive team (at least as of late) where if we just get a shot off, we have a decent chance of points. I don't mind the turnovers of aggression within reason. But we just had way too many awful ones last night. (5). The late first half charge on LJ was game changing. We could have been up five at the half with LJ ready to play 18 minutes in the second. I think we likely would have rolled from there. Reggie is less limited than most think. JTIII's rotations have baffled me during his tenure. Maybe he shouldn't be starting but he should be getting a lot more minutes because he seems to be one of the few who "gets it" on this team. Big play when he got that rebound late. The other guys had been standing around watching the ball all game. JT needs his seniors to step up. OH i wish this team had a monster in the middle even if he couldn't score much. Btw i think Depaul's defense was good. They took away the Princeton elements. Reggie certainly struggles to defend quick players, and has little foot speed at either end. But you are right, his fundamentals and his understanding are very good. He also has a smooth shooting stroke, and is never afraid to fire when open, although the results have always been spotty. And best if all, even when he doesn't play, he - and Trey - are the most demonstrative supporters on the bench. I have also seen Reggie animatedly discussing something with JTIII when he is on the bench. A future coach perhaps? Would love to see him get his minutes the rest of the way.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 1, 2017 16:42:23 GMT -5
I think the 10-0 start was about the worst thing that could happen to us last night; on top of 2 wins over ranked teams, we got a little overconfident (hard to believe in this jumble of a season) that we could put it Depaul whenever we wanted, so we got sloppy with the ball, and lazy relying on the 3. But they showed moxie in the endgame, and escaping with a win on the road is still big.
But I sure hope playing at home against a team with only 3 conference wins (at least as of today) does not translate into any complacency.
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Post by trillesthoya on Feb 1, 2017 19:20:14 GMT -5
Reggie is less limited than most think. JTIII's rotations have baffled me during his tenure. Maybe he shouldn't be starting but he should be getting a lot more minutes because he seems to be one of the few who "gets it" on this team. Big play when he got that rebound late. The other guys had been standing around watching the ball all game. JT needs his seniors to step up. OH i wish this team had a monster in the middle even if he couldn't score much. Btw i think Depaul's defense was good. They took away the Princeton elements. Reggie certainly struggles to defend quick players, and has little foot speed at either end. But you are right, his fundamentals and his understanding are very good. He also has a smooth shooting stroke, and is never afraid to fire when open, although the results have always been spotty. And best if all, even when he doesn't play, he - and Trey - are the most demonstrative supporters on the bench. I have also seen Reggie animatedly discussing something with JTIII when he is on the bench. A future coach perhaps? Would love to see him get his minutes the rest of the way. Reggie is probably my favorite player on this team. It's amazing to see someone stay loyal to the program after years of low playing time and still be out there cheering his heart out every game. Anyone else would've transferred a long time ago, and I hope coach continue to give him minutes since he seems to have a very high bball IQ.
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Post by calhoya on Feb 1, 2017 20:17:21 GMT -5
Reggie certainly struggles to defend quick players, and has little foot speed at either end. But you are right, his fundamentals and his understanding are very good. He also has a smooth shooting stroke, and is never afraid to fire when open, although the results have always been spotty. And best if all, even when he doesn't play, he - and Trey - are the most demonstrative supporters on the bench. I have also seen Reggie animatedly discussing something with JTIII when he is on the bench. A future coach perhaps? Would love to see him get his minutes the rest of the way. Reggie is probably my favorite player on this team. It's amazing to see someone stay loyal to the program after years of low playing time and still be out there cheering his heart out every game. Anyone else would've transferred a long time ago, and I hope coach continue to give him minutes since he seems to have a very high bball IQ. Agree to this. There have been a few who remain loyal even with limited opportunities. Also agree that he seems to be a heady player and is one of the biggest cheerleaders on the bench.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 1, 2017 21:26:51 GMT -5
Reggie certainly struggles to defend quick players, and has little foot speed at either end. But you are right, his fundamentals and his understanding are very good. He also has a smooth shooting stroke, and is never afraid to fire when open, although the results have always been spotty. And best if all, even when he doesn't play, he - and Trey - are the most demonstrative supporters on the bench. I have also seen Reggie animatedly discussing something with JTIII when he is on the bench. A future coach perhaps? Would love to see him get his minutes the rest of the way. Reggie is probably my favorite player on this team. It's amazing to see someone stay loyal to the program after years of low playing time and still be out there cheering his heart out every game. Anyone else would've transferred a long time ago, and I hope coach continue to give him minutes since he seems to have a very high bball IQ. Agree 1000%. Somewhere deep inside I have a feeling Reggie will have a very special moment this season.
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Post by Eurostar on Feb 23, 2017 6:40:24 GMT -5
Poor effort I thought, but encouraging as we found a way to win. There were stretches of intensity from our group, but lots of stretches of just going through the motions at 80%. Saved by good outside shooting again. However, the idea that this team is going to win 5 out of the next 8 games is crazy. Will lose to Nova x2 and Creighton away. Will probably lose at least 1 of the other games, probably 2 (Seton Hall away and Marquette). My guess is 16-15 and 7-11 in conference. The idea that this team is going to LOSE 5 out if the next 8 might be just as crazy. Nova is probably 2 losses. Creighton? We just thumped them without Watson; they had a very nice win at Butler last night, but counting it as a definite loss makes no sense. If we play like we did last night, of course we will struggle to win 5. If we play like we did last week, I think 5 is extremely realistic - maybe even low! You were saying? Looks like another late season Hoyas collapse. With games at Seton Hall, at St Johns, and home vs Nova, we could seriously be looking at 1-7 down the stretch.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 23, 2017 8:19:15 GMT -5
The idea that this team is going to LOSE 5 out if the next 8 might be just as crazy. Nova is probably 2 losses. Creighton? We just thumped them without Watson; they had a very nice win at Butler last night, but counting it as a definite loss makes no sense. If we play like we did last night, of course we will struggle to win 5. If we play like we did last week, I think 5 is extremely realistic - maybe even low! You were saying? Looks like another late season Hoyas collapse. With games at Seton Hall, at St Johns, and home vs Nova, we could seriously be looking at 1-7 down the stretch. Touche. I did not recognize how low we have sunk.
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