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Post by kchoya on Apr 9, 2016 22:49:03 GMT -5
I'm sure it's not difficult at all, and the premise of your first sentence is completely wrong. Try again. In your feeble opinion my narcissistic contrarian (diagnosis reconfirmed). It is apparent that your disinhibition effect dependency and your perceptual distortions preclude you from orginial thought ... perhaps a lawyer? I like your posts but the feebleness they speak of do tug at my heart strings. All is good. I want you to know you are very important. Here is hoping that JTIII succeeds. You win. Your Scrabble score kicks my butt.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 10, 2016 13:25:37 GMT -5
I'm sure it's not difficult at all, and the premise of your first sentence is completely wrong. Try again. In your feeble opinion my narcissistic contrarian (diagnosis reconfirmed). It is apparent that your disinhibition effect dependency and your perceptual distortions preclude you from orginial thought ... perhaps a lawyer? I like your posts but the feebleness they speak of do tug at my heart strings. All is good. I want you to know you are very important. Here is hoping that JTIII succeeds. Wow, many big words . . . perhaps a (pseudo)psychologist?
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Apr 11, 2016 17:38:53 GMT -5
Very well stated! "Zooming out, these three bits of news have brought me back a bit from the ledge. It can be tempting to think, particularly after last season, that JT3 truly has no idea what's going wrong with his own program. It's also tempting to think that the University is accountable to him, rather than the other way around. Neither transparent nor forthcoming, the coach and the administration both encourage that perception. These three developments are small and uncertain. It's easy enough to put out a statement of support, and DeGioia may not have the desire or will to hold JT3 accountable if the team continues to struggle. Lykes may just be polite, and may already have decided to leave town for college. JT3 has lived by the Princeton offense and his tenure may die by it. Mulmore might not make a difference, Pryor may head elsewhere, and the team may sink further next season. Despite that uncertainty, the developments generally strike me as positive. DeGioia seems to be paying attention. The staff seems eager to remedy what has ailed the past few teams. And recruits at least appear to be listening. After last season, that's a start" www.casualhoya.com/2016/4/11/11406492/off-season-georgetown-basketball-news
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Post by kchoya on Apr 11, 2016 20:50:46 GMT -5
Very well stated! "Zooming out, these three bits of news have brought me back a bit from the ledge. It can be tempting to think, particularly after last season, that JT3 truly has no idea what's going wrong with his own program. It's also tempting to think that the University is accountable to him, rather than the other way around. Neither transparent nor forthcoming, the coach and the administration both encourage that perception. These three developments are small and uncertain. It's easy enough to put out a statement of support, and DeGioia may not have the desire or will to hold JT3 accountable if the team continues to struggle. Lykes may just be polite, and may already have decided to leave town for college. JT3 has lived by the Princeton offense and his tenure may die by it. Mulmore might not make a difference, Pryor may head elsewhere, and the team may sink further next season. Despite that uncertainty, the developments generally strike me as positive. DeGioia seems to be paying attention. The staff seems eager to remedy what has ailed the past few teams. And recruits at least appear to be listening. After last season, that's a start" He has lived by the Princeton offense? Do you even watch the games?
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Post by tashoya on Apr 11, 2016 21:34:42 GMT -5
Very well stated! "Zooming out, these three bits of news have brought me back a bit from the ledge. It can be tempting to think, particularly after last season, that JT3 truly has no idea what's going wrong with his own program. It's also tempting to think that the University is accountable to him, rather than the other way around. Neither transparent nor forthcoming, the coach and the administration both encourage that perception. These three developments are small and uncertain. It's easy enough to put out a statement of support, and DeGioia may not have the desire or will to hold JT3 accountable if the team continues to struggle. Lykes may just be polite, and may already have decided to leave town for college. JT3 has lived by the Princeton offense and his tenure may die by it. Mulmore might not make a difference, Pryor may head elsewhere, and the team may sink further next season. Despite that uncertainty, the developments generally strike me as positive. DeGioia seems to be paying attention. The staff seems eager to remedy what has ailed the past few teams. And recruits at least appear to be listening. After last season, that's a start" It's not tempting to think that JT3 has no idea what's going on with his program. You may question his ability to change it but that's different than not knowing. Some of us dopes here know what's wrong but the guy getting paid to coach basketball for a living doesn't? Come on. Also, I can't imagine a single person, regardless of how much they do or don't like or respect the Thompsons, thinks that the University is accountable to JT3 and not the other way around. It's not remotely tempting to think that. As for the University and program being more forthcoming, I sort of get what you're saying but the programs that are more "forthcoming" pretty much regurgitate the same old canned sound bytes. They could do better with alumni relations I'm sure but as far as providing more of an insight into the inner workings/goings-on? I can't think of any programs that really do that and for good reasons. JT3 just tends to be less "entertaining" in interviews than some others. But he really doesn't say any more or less than most other coaches. With regard to injuries and suspensions, Georgetown seems to be markedly more tight-lipped about those things and slower to reveal anything. That can be annoying as an alum and a fan but I respect that they err on the side of the privacy of the student/athletes. I don't love it but I get it in a way.
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Post by tashoya on Apr 11, 2016 21:41:21 GMT -5
In your feeble opinion my narcissistic contrarian (diagnosis reconfirmed). It is apparent that your disinhibition effect dependency and your perceptual distortions preclude you from orginial thought ... perhaps a lawyer? I like your posts but the feebleness they speak of do tug at my heart strings. All is good. I want you to know you are very important. Here is hoping that JTIII succeeds. Wow, many big words . . . perhaps a (pseudo)psychologist? These are the sorts of things lic needs to address.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Apr 11, 2016 22:33:48 GMT -5
Very well stated! "Zooming out, these three bits of news have brought me back a bit from the ledge. It can be tempting to think, particularly after last season, that JT3 truly has no idea what's going wrong with his own program. It's also tempting to think that the University is accountable to him, rather than the other way around. Neither transparent nor forthcoming, the coach and the administration both encourage that perception. These three developments are small and uncertain. It's easy enough to put out a statement of support, and DeGioia may not have the desire or will to hold JT3 accountable if the team continues to struggle. Lykes may just be polite, and may already have decided to leave town for college. JT3 has lived by the Princeton offense and his tenure may die by it. Mulmore might not make a difference, Pryor may head elsewhere, and the team may sink further next season. Despite that uncertainty, the developments generally strike me as positive. DeGioia seems to be paying attention. The staff seems eager to remedy what has ailed the past few teams. And recruits at least appear to be listening. After last season, that's a start" He has lived by the Princeton offense? Do you even watch the games? Yes, live by the Princeton defense is a stretch. I read it as committed to it as a principle. I can be wrong in my perception of the author's meaning. However, to your point as to do I even watch the games, let me see, which of the games did I not watch?
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Post by kchoya on Apr 11, 2016 23:54:32 GMT -5
He has lived by the Princeton offense? Do you even watch the games? Yes, live by the Princeton defense is a stretch. I read it as committed to it as a principle. I can be wrong in my perception of the author's meaning. However, to your point as to do I even watch the games, let me see, which of the games did I not watch? I now see that you appear to be quoting someone else, but using some bizzaro style manual where you don't cite your source or link to the source material. Actually, I like your approach. "michaelgrahmstylie is an idiot and needs to stop living on CP time" very well stated!
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Apr 13, 2016 13:36:53 GMT -5
Any system should value a point guard/floor general because he/she controls the tempo of a game. They are an extension of the coach on the court. NO, it's not the system. We have players in the pro's that came out of our system. When we get a true floor/general who consistently makes good decisions they the Hoyas should win a lot of games next season. We haven't recruited an elite PG in a decade and we have a reputation for having a system that puts the ball in the hands of wings and bigs expecting them to make decisions, not the PG. Those two facts are closely related, I think the idea of us grabbing a 5 star PG is a pipe dream. First you'd have to know how valuable and critical a role the point guard plays for his team. NO you don't need a so called 10 or 5 start point guard. You just need a point guard to run the show period. We have Jon Mulmore now he'll be a good floor general for the next two years! If you've noticed the ball in our point guard's hand bring the ball up court.. hmmmm...wake up
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Post by skyhoya on Apr 15, 2016 13:41:26 GMT -5
Glide, are you still banned from the phone booth?
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Post by dreamhoya on Apr 17, 2016 20:32:56 GMT -5
Hey, quick question - during his tenure what type of offense was JT Jr. running for the most part (i know it changed some over the years and with various personnel)?
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Post by eagle54 on Apr 17, 2016 20:46:16 GMT -5
Hey, quick question - during his tenure what type of offense was JT Jr. running for the most part (i know it changed some over the years and with various personnel)? During the 90's, they had no offensive system that I could discern but did play good defense. They played much more open and tried to transition from turnovers. When Iverson played that worked as he could create his own offense and without him not as much. I think going back to the 80's is not comparable as it was a different game with the big men and inside game being more important than today. The three pointer and shot clock being introduced in late eighties changed things but isn't comparable to anything today.
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Post by vv83 on Apr 17, 2016 20:52:36 GMT -5
Hey, quick question - during his tenure what type of offense was JT Jr. running for the most part (i know it changed some over the years and with various personnel)? During the 90's, they had no offensive system that I could discern but did play good defense. They played much more open and tried to transition from turnovers. When Iverson played that worked as he could create his own offense and without him not as much. I think going back to the 80's is not comparable as it was a different game with the big men and inside game being more important than today. The three pointer and shot clock being introduced in late eighties changed things but isn't comparable to anything today. The offense after Mourning (except for the two Iverson years) was pretty painful to watch. As much as we complain about the current offense at times, the late years of the JT Jr. offense consisted mostly of putbacks on offensive rebounds of the many, many missed jump shots. plus whatever we could create in transition off the defense.
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Post by dreamhoya on Apr 17, 2016 21:54:44 GMT -5
During the 90's, they had no offensive system that I could discern but did play good defense. They played much more open and tried to transition from turnovers. When Iverson played that worked as he could create his own offense and without him not as much. I think going back to the 80's is not comparable as it was a different game with the big men and inside game being more important than today. The three pointer and shot clock being introduced in late eighties changed things but isn't comparable to anything today. The offense after Mourning (except for the two Iverson years) was pretty painful to watch. As much as we complain about the current offense at times, the late years of the JT Jr. offense consisted mostly of putbacks on offensive rebounds of the many, many missed jump shots. plus whatever we could create in transition off the defense. Yeah that I remember it was painful to watch but curious what the offense was. Wasn't motion, wasn't Princeton. Was it mostly high-low?
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Post by njhoya78 on Apr 17, 2016 22:00:23 GMT -5
The offense after Mourning (except for the two Iverson years) was pretty painful to watch. As much as we complain about the current offense at times, the late years of the JT Jr. offense consisted mostly of putbacks on offensive rebounds of the many, many missed jump shots. plus whatever we could create in transition off the defense. Yeah that I remember it was painful to watch but curious what the offense was. Wasn't motion, wasn't Princeton. Was it mostly high-low? "High-low" would imply that there was an offensive scheme of some type; there wasn't. VV is right. . .the offense, when not converting a fast break off of a turnover, literally consisted of heaving the ball off of the backboard, getting the rebound of the missed shot, and either (a) laying in a one to two foot shot, or (b) going to the foul line. It was almost laughable, but GU had success because the Hoyas were a lock-down defensive team. Not quite what we had this past season, and the defensive failures served to further highlight our offensive deficiencies.
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Post by Elvado on Apr 18, 2016 12:24:39 GMT -5
Credit to Coach and staff for recognizing a weakness and trying some relatively instant solutions. They deserve credit for this quick effort irrespective of how it ultimately pans out.
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Post by skyhoya on Apr 22, 2016 10:14:52 GMT -5
no matter what we say on this board, the administration will not listen to us. please close this thread and start a new one in the Fall
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 22, 2016 20:20:32 GMT -5
So, the lousy recruiter who is 'too stubborn to adapt' landed a 5th year starting center, a JUCO second team All American guard, and a grad transfer guard scoring machine in the spring. All of whom plug glaring needs.
The pieces are in place...
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Post by eagle54 on Apr 22, 2016 20:31:14 GMT -5
So, the lousy recruiter who is 'too stubborn to adapt' landed a 5th year starting center, a JUCO second team All American guard, and a grad transfer guard scoring machine in the spring. All of whom plug glaring needs. The pieces are in place... Dan, don't put more pressure on Coach then he should have as they still have to play the games and play them in March. A lousy recruiter he's not at least as far as I've ever reported. It's more about an underperforming team with talent so I wouldn't start pumping our chests until we show something on the court.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 22, 2016 20:46:16 GMT -5
You're outstanding at putting your own interpretation on what others post... smh
'The pieces are in place...' Means exactly what it says.
You're also outstanding at thinking every post here is referring to you. My post was not referring to you.
No premature 'chest pumping' in this precinct.
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