njhoya78
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 23, 2017 12:38:49 GMT -5
Monitoring other internet sources I use for the Coaching Carousel thread. Nothing being reported on those sites yet.
EDIT: Jon Rothstein of CBS Sports is reporting it. . .quoting Casual Hoya.
SECOND EDIT: As posted by McBricks, also now up on espn.com (Goodman and Borzello quoting multiple unnamed sources).
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GUJook97
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 23, 2017 12:40:02 GMT -5
I don't think Georgetown would ever consider changing coaches because of a protest. If our fan base had that much power and influence, there would probably be more than 65 students at most of our home games When Esherick was fired, they did it the day/night before an on-campus student/alumni protest was planned. I still showed up to the protest (which had a paltry 80 or less still arrive) as some of the Hoya Blue leaders asked us to express our dissatisfaction with many other aspects of the Bball program and its interaction with students specifically. Many of those concerns still resonate, though thankfully they have found more seating in the lower levels for students (albeit still behind the baskets). I remember that DeGioia wouldn't meet with the group (he had a "previous engagement"), so Dr. Porterfield (VP at the time) graciously invited everyone into Healy to the conference room and talked with the core group. I knew Dr. P pretty well, so even though I wasn't part of leading the group, I talked a good amount with him then and for the rest of my time on the hilltop about Gtown Bball and student life. The thing that seemed to surprise parts of the administration was how important we as students viewed the bball program and the athletic department to the overall experience of the school, that we didn't just want to be a part of the Ivy League. Dr. P seemed to understand that and agree with us, but it was clear quite a few in the administration did not see it entirely that way and would prefer to be more in the mold of the Ivies than a Stanford, Duke, etc. I always felt good knowing Dr. P would represent the student's in that view and then when he left to be President of Franklin & Marshall, that the Bball program was doing very well with JTIII and that they wouldn't let the school forget the importance of athletics in the student experience at Gtown. As Bball has deteriorated the last few years and outside of soccer, there aren't many highlights in athletics, I must admit I'm concerned that the admin will ask if it's worth it to continue to support at the level they have (especially financially). I don't know the admin now, so I don't know if there are any voices pro or con. In my experience with the school, though, they do seem to be incredibly aware of negative press related to student activity and to move quickly to try to prevent it or redress it. They don't seem to care about national media opinions, but whether it's the protest of the buildings named for Presidents who sold slaves or the Esherick firing, student activity seems to be one of the quickest ways to get the admin to pay attention. Would be interesting if they pulled the same thing here a day before the protest like they did with Esherick. All fair points, and I wasn't intending to throw protestors or diehards under the bus. It was more to say that the University is aware of all things, and would respond carefully. It wouldnt just fire III because of growing fan discontent.
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njhoya78
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 23, 2017 12:42:59 GMT -5
The Preisdent & AD wanted to keep JT3. The Board stepped in and overruled them. Thank you Alonzo!! Source or speculation?
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McBricks
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Post by McBricks on Mar 23, 2017 12:43:24 GMT -5
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Post by This Just In on Mar 23, 2017 12:44:09 GMT -5
Tommy Amaker or King Rice.. Who do you take?
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Post by royski on Mar 23, 2017 12:44:14 GMT -5
Hallelujah! We needed strong, decisive action to save this program, and we got it. Let's go hire a star.
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Post by McBricks on Mar 23, 2017 12:44:25 GMT -5
Sad day for Georgetown but hopefully a really good day for Georgetown. Let's hope the Board makes a really good hiring decision.
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DudeSlade
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Post by DudeSlade on Mar 23, 2017 12:44:47 GMT -5
When Esherick was fired, they did it the day/night before an on-campus student/alumni protest was planned. I still showed up to the protest (which had a paltry 80 or less still arrive) as some of the Hoya Blue leaders asked us to express our dissatisfaction with many other aspects of the Bball program and its interaction with students specifically. Many of those concerns still resonate, though thankfully they have found more seating in the lower levels for students (albeit still behind the baskets). I remember that DeGioia wouldn't meet with the group (he had a "previous engagement"), so Dr. Porterfield (VP at the time) graciously invited everyone into Healy to the conference room and talked with the core group. I knew Dr. P pretty well, so even though I wasn't part of leading the group, I talked a good amount with him then and for the rest of my time on the hilltop about Gtown Bball and student life. The thing that seemed to surprise parts of the administration was how important we as students viewed the bball program and the athletic department to the overall experience of the school, that we didn't just want to be a part of the Ivy League. Dr. P seemed to understand that and agree with us, but it was clear quite a few in the administration did not see it entirely that way and would prefer to be more in the mold of the Ivies than a Stanford, Duke, etc. I always felt good knowing Dr. P would represent the student's in that view and then when he left to be President of Franklin & Marshall, that the Bball program was doing very well with JTIII and that they wouldn't let the school forget the importance of athletics in the student experience at Gtown. As Bball has deteriorated the last few years and outside of soccer, there aren't many highlights in athletics, I must admit I'm concerned that the admin will ask if it's worth it to continue to support at the level they have (especially financially). I don't know the admin now, so I don't know if there are any voices pro or con. In my experience with the school, though, they do seem to be incredibly aware of negative press related to student activity and to move quickly to try to prevent it or redress it. They don't seem to care about national media opinions, but whether it's the protest of the buildings named for Presidents who sold slaves or the Esherick firing, student activity seems to be one of the quickest ways to get the admin to pay attention. Would be interesting if they pulled the same thing here a day before the protest like they did with Esherick. All fair points, and I wasn't intending to throw protestors or diehards under the bus. It was more to say that the University is aware of all things, and would respond carefully. It wouldnt just fire III because of growing fan discontent. Completely agree that it would be more thought through than that. There's been a good amount of time for them to look at all angles and I'd totally believe they were arriving to this decision anyway, but considering history, I'd also be willing to believe the timing might have been designed to mitigate how bad a student protest would look from a PR angle for the school.
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Post by TC on Mar 23, 2017 12:45:14 GMT -5
The only solace I take in Andy Katz reporting our two leading options are Ewing and Amaker is that literally none of these guys got anything right the last time.
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Post by This Just In on Mar 23, 2017 12:46:12 GMT -5
I predict its Ronnie THompson! I predict John Thompon IV
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Post by tullamore2 on Mar 23, 2017 12:46:22 GMT -5
The Preisdent & AD wanted to keep JT3. The Board stepped in and overruled them. Thank you Alonzo!! Source or speculation? Both. Source - that the Board fired JT3 My speculation-- that Alonzo voted against JT3
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 23, 2017 12:48:05 GMT -5
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Post by This Just In on Mar 23, 2017 12:48:09 GMT -5
Totally agree. I actually think JTIII is a better coach than Amaker. I was really hoping for someone young and hungry. Amaker is getting better with age and he's becoming a good motivator. However, Not sure I want him or anybody named so far on this board.. Of the available coaches out there, who do you want?
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Post by dreamhoya on Mar 23, 2017 12:48:40 GMT -5
THat mean Jr. will stay? Please, Gd Yes
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njhoya78
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 23, 2017 12:48:49 GMT -5
Must be true. . .Dickie V has spoken:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rumors have been swirling concerning the Hoyas Coach / sometimes a change is good for both parties / Wish JT III the best in his future</p>— Dick Vitale (@dickiev) <a href="https://twitter.com/DickieV/status/844968710884540416">March 23, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 23, 2017 12:49:29 GMT -5
Both. Source - that the Board fired JT3 My speculation-- that Alonzo voted against JT3 MOD NOTE: let's not get into public speculation about who did what behind closed doors here. Let Mr. Mourning speak for himself should he so choose rather than spreading speculation.
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Post by dreamhoya on Mar 23, 2017 12:49:45 GMT -5
Amaker is getting better with age and he's becoming a good motivator. However, Not sure I want him or anybody named so far on this board.. Of the available coaches out there, who do you want? honestly i don't know.
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Post by DudeSlade on Mar 23, 2017 12:50:15 GMT -5
Both. Source - that the Board fired JT3 My speculation-- that Alonzo voted against JT3 This is why you have a Board -- to make the hard decisions when leadership fails to. Glad to hear it. Thanks for the inside info.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 23, 2017 12:56:56 GMT -5
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