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Post by kchoya on Jun 22, 2015 22:46:08 GMT -5
But not if speculation and misinformation runs rampant, which can stoke passion and feelings where there is no basis to do so. In this instance, that doesn't seem to be the case. Contrast that with Ferguson, where the DOJ and other investigations came down on the side of Officer Wilson. He really had no reason to interact with those kids in the first place, other than to be an as$hole. *cough* Robbed a convenience store *cough*
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Post by kchoya on Jun 22, 2015 22:50:22 GMT -5
But not if speculation and misinformation runs rampant Like when Elvado was posting the internet lies about Officer Wilson's fictional "orbital blowout"? Damn him, pulling info from right-wing rags like the Washington Post. Darren Wilson had an eye bone fracture after scuffle with Michael Brown, family friend saysAnd true to form, Elvado took that information and ran with it. Just like all the people pushing the "hands up" falsehood. Let me repeat it one last time for the terminally obstinate. I do not know if the cop has a fractured orbital bone. It has been reported. If he has a fractured orbital bone I believe that might be an important consideration In what happened. If you can not comprehend that I can no longer assist you. You want me to cop to baiting or trolling. Great. Now you can cop to totally prejudging this case before the facts are known. See I can play your game too.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jun 22, 2015 23:40:11 GMT -5
He really had no reason to interact with those kids in the first place, other than to be an as$hole. *cough* Robbed a convenience store *cough* Have you forgotten that Wilson didn't know that when he accosted them?
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Post by TC on Jun 22, 2015 23:44:41 GMT -5
Elvado posted that rumor, without a source, on August 20th. That WashPo article wasn't published until the 21st. What was published on the 20th was a link on Drudge to Jim Hoff that conservative media ran with.
The problem with comparing this story to Ferguson is that Ferguson was a conflict of eyewitness testimony and firsthand testimony from day one, mixed in with a total lack of transparency. There's really no disagreement in this story at this point.
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Post by kchoya on Jun 22, 2015 23:56:34 GMT -5
*cough* Robbed a convenience store *cough* Have you forgotten that Wilson didn't know that when he accosted them? Not according to his grand jury testimony (from Newsweek): Among the 24 volumes was Darren Wilson’s testimony. Wilson began by describing his police uniform and his official department vehicle, a Chevy Tahoe. Before encountering Brown, he was called to the scene of a sick infant, who was then transported to the hospital. After that call, Wilson overheard on his radio the details of a robbery but was not called to investigate it. Wilson first came across Brown and his friend Dorian Johnson when he said the men were walking in the street, blocking traffic, rather than on the side walk. He told them: “Why don’t you guys walk on the sidewalk?” Johnson replied: “We are almost to our destination.” Wilson asked again: “Well, what’s wrong with the sidewalk?” According to Wilson, Brown replied: “ Edited what you have to say." Noticing Brown was holding Cigarillos and Johnson’s attire matched the description of those involved in the robbery he had earlier heard over his radio, Wilson suspected these were the men involved and called for backup.
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Post by kchoya on Jun 22, 2015 23:57:49 GMT -5
The problem with comparing this story to Ferguson is that Ferguson was a conflict of eyewitness testimony and firsthand testimony from day one, mixed in with a total lack of transparency. There's really no disagreement in this story at this point. I acknowledged that difference above.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jun 23, 2015 0:10:26 GMT -5
kc, if you believe that nonsense fairytale Wilson told the grand jury, perhaps I can interest you in a bridge...
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Post by kchoya on Jun 23, 2015 0:24:39 GMT -5
kc, if you believe that nonsense fairytale Wilson told the grand jury, perhaps I can interest you in a bridge... It's clear you're never going to believe anything a white cop says, so why even bother. You're so biased it isn't even funny.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jun 23, 2015 8:42:45 GMT -5
kc, if you believe that nonsense fairytale Wilson told the grand jury, perhaps I can interest you in a bridge... It's clear you're never going to believe anything a white cop says, so why even bother. You're so biased it isn't even funny. Get real, kc...
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Post by This Just In on Jun 24, 2015 8:04:40 GMT -5
FBI Director James Comey Says Charleston Shooting Was Not Terrorism
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Post by EasyEd on Jun 24, 2015 8:18:47 GMT -5
Why does this warrant a separate thread?
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Post by kchoya on Jun 24, 2015 8:29:38 GMT -5
Why does this warrant a separate thread? I agree. This is getting old.
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Post by rustyshackleford on Jun 24, 2015 13:36:40 GMT -5
kc, if you believe that nonsense fairytale Wilson told the grand jury, perhaps I can interest you in a bridge... It's clear you're never going to believe anything a white cop says, so why even bother. You're so biased it isn't even funny. Nah - they just know the whole system is corrupt and that evidence/facts to the contrary are just party of a vast conspiracy. Now the tea partiers, they're the real tin foil hatters...
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Post by nathanhm on Jun 24, 2015 14:50:51 GMT -5
It's clear you're never going to believe anything a white cop says, so why even bother. You're so biased it isn't even funny. Nah - they just know the whole system is corrupt and that evidence/facts to the contrary are just party of a vast conspiracy. Now the tea partiers, they're the real tin foil hatters... For a conservative that's a pretty liberal use of the word facts
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Post by quickplay on Jun 24, 2015 15:21:52 GMT -5
Why...wouldn't this warrant a thread?
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Post by kchoya on Jun 24, 2015 15:42:50 GMT -5
Why...wouldn't this warrant a thread? Isn't the overkill obvious to you?
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Post by quickplay on Jun 25, 2015 8:39:44 GMT -5
I think when we've spent countless billions of dollars and completely adjusted our society in the name of fighting terrorism, it's completely reasonable to debate where that line is. This mass murder seems like a reasonable jumping off point for that discussion.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jun 25, 2015 9:15:23 GMT -5
Isn't the overkill obvious to you? What is obvious is you have made 7 of the previous 15 posts. If anyone is guilty of overkill, it is clearly you.
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Post by kchoya on Jun 25, 2015 10:23:59 GMT -5
Isn't the overkill obvious to you? What is obvious is you have made 7 of the previous 15 posts. If anyone is guilty of overkill, it is clearly you. If you don't understand what I was posting about, you probably shouldn't respond to my post.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jun 25, 2015 12:02:20 GMT -5
What is obvious is you have made 7 of the previous 15 posts. If anyone is guilty of overkill, it is clearly you. If you don't understand what I was posting about, you probably shouldn't respond to my post. Thank you KC, but I choose to rely on my own judgement rather than unsolicited advice from a self-described social assassin.
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