kchoya
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Post by kchoya on Jun 25, 2015 12:14:05 GMT -5
If you don't understand what I was posting about, you probably shouldn't respond to my post. Thank you KC, but I choose to rely on my own judgement rather than unsolicited advice from a self-described social assassin. That's fine, but it's clear you have no idea what I was talking about.
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jun 25, 2015 17:13:28 GMT -5
Ok, kc.
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HoyaSC
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Post by HoyaSC on Jul 3, 2015 9:35:30 GMT -5
Wait a minute. There are still facts t develop about this miscreant and his background? How can that be? We have been told by Deacon et al case closed? Oh, so you mean like most racist, cowardly POS's, he didn't have the balls to say anything openly racist in front of black people that might've knocked some sense into him that means the jury is still out despite the overwhelming tidal wave of evidence - including his own words - that this was a hate crime? Right. Believe what you want, I honestly couldn't care less. My days of trying to talk reasonably with white folks about race in this country are over. I wish neither of you would leave this discussion. It had some great points from all sides until it degenerated into a history of someone's posts. Most of the people on death row are black. Most of them are mentally ill. Most of the white people on death row are mentally ill, too. (One thing they all have in common--at least in SC where I live--is that white, black, mentally ill, or just plain ol' mean, they are all poor.) But there's a difference in the law--largely misunderstood by the lay public--between being mentally ill and being so insane that you can't be found guilty of a crime. That level of insanity is tremendously difficult to prove and rarely used. Just being mentally ill isn't going to get you a not guilty verdict. Mental illness will play a role in the determination of his sentence. If you take the information given by the media at this point as true (which is an extremely problematic assumption), then he has confessed, planned the crime with a significant degree of forethought, and penned his reasons for it. The reasons are racially motivated. Sure sounds like the dictionary (and statutory) definition of a hate crime if you accept these facts. So I'd say it's likely he'll be convicted of a hate crime if/when the feds pick up the prosecution. But in any death penalty trial, the guilt phase is separate from the sentencing phase where the jury decides between life or death. During that phase is when any possible mental illness will be considered. He may have none. He might just be evil and mean. But his background will be extensively investigated by very talented attorneys who will dig up all kinds of stuff the media would never get. There's plenty of human awfulness to go around in this thing. There's racism in a very young man which makes me so sad. As a white mid 40s liberal Southerner, I see every day phenomenal differences in racial attitudes among young people from what I saw growing up in a small town. I was beginning to believe that after a few more of the bad old racist generations die off, things would keep getting better. And I still believe that. But to see such hatred in somebody this young.... it gives that hope a kick in the nuts. But there's also awfulness in terms of guns and possibly mental illness. And whether we investigate these white supremacist groups with the same fervor we chase terrorists from the Middle East. As one of my best professors told me, the media always sound authoritative until they write about a topic you know intimately. Another poster in this thread wrote that the great thing about being a part of the Georgetown community is that you can have a discussion on an internet message board with a guy whose handle is HOYAS4EVA who might be an undersecretary of state and speak five languages. Don't quit talking, Hoyas.
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Post by rustyshackleford on Jul 24, 2015 12:43:03 GMT -5
Nah - they just know the whole system is corrupt and that evidence/facts to the contrary are just party of a vast conspiracy. Now the tea partiers, they're the real tin foil hatters... For a conservative that's a pretty liberal use of the word facts Pretty presumptuous and revealing to assume I'm a conservative. And nice job adding no actual debate to the fact that the criminal legal process as well as media evidence provided support for something a blindly partisan liberal claims is all a conspiracy meant to obscure that all the facts actually align with his/her worldview.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Aug 4, 2016 14:31:42 GMT -5
Remember this sad sack ^^^? (CNN) Dylann Roof, accused of the racially motivated massacre last year at Charleston's Emanuel AME Church, was attacked and beaten Thursday by another inmate in a South Carolina jail, authorities said.OK, I'm not going to suggest this type of thing should be encouraged or applauded, but does anyone here feel sorry for the dude? Those parishioners at the Church who forgave him are truly blessed people. I guess I'm not that blessed. www.cnn.com/2016/08/04/us/south-carolina-dylann-roof-beaten/index.html
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SaxaCD
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Post by SaxaCD on Aug 4, 2016 21:37:03 GMT -5
Remember this sad sack ^^^? (CNN) Dylann Roof, accused of the racially motivated massacre last year at Charleston's Emanuel AME Church, was attacked and beaten Thursday by another inmate in a South Carolina jail, authorities said.OK, I'm not going to suggest this type of thing should be encouraged or applauded, but does anyone here feel sorry for the dude? Those parishioners at the Church who forgave him are truly blessed people. I guess I'm not that blessed. www.cnn.com/2016/08/04/us/south-carolina-dylann-roof-beaten/index.htmlSorry, not sorry.
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