sleepy
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 6,079
|
Post by sleepy on Mar 13, 2015 13:04:21 GMT -5
The thing about March is that you do not need to be a great team to make a run anymore. Good would do just fine. The problem is that we aren't just at risk to be upset, we are basically guaranteed to be upset at this point. The conversation about the March failures and why this year could be different is completely unrealistic because it's not as if most of the other losses SHOULD have happened. It's not as if we are consistently losing to better teams and teams we didn't have a chance to compete with and that the programs needs to seriously improve to make noise in March. It's quite the opposite in fact. The teams, individually, shouldn't have lost to the teams they lost to, although some were more understandable than others. If we were playing our average or normal game and lost, that would be one thing. With one or two exceptions, we are coming out a completely different team than the one who played the previous 30 games that season and getting thumped. The issue is we seem to play extraordinarily poorly during one game in March every year. Nothing we do during the offseason or season is going to change our ability to not play uncharacteristically terrible for one game of the year, or one half of the year as the case may be. So yea, the differentiation argument is a valid one in some respects, but it seems to be a better explanation for the NC State game, which no one really freaked out about. Our other March issues aren't caused by playing normal and losing in a coin flip. They are caused by playing abnormal and getting dominated. How we get eliminated in the tournament this year will probably determine whether it is perceived as a failure. Good lord. We aren't guaranteed to be upset. If you really believe that, why are you watching? As for the rest, this is the real breakdown: 2 wins over lower seeded teams 2 Losses to underseeded, very good mid-majors who at least went to Elite Eight/Final Four 1 Close Loss to a lower seeded major conference school with NBA talent 2 Awful Upsets 2 NIT years It's not a good record by any means. It includes 5 seeding upsets, though three were closer to 60/40 or even 50/50 than the seedings would call out. So yeah, it sucks. But let's not paint it as a series of massive upsets. It's more like two massive upsets, a year where we could have made a run and lost another great team (2008) and the rest are more... we didn't make a run. Again, it's not a good record. It's not a mediocre record. It's bad. But people seem to portray all these games as Ohio/FGCU and they aren't. They are quite a bit different. Sorry, guaranteed to be upset in the mind of viewers and the media. You know we will be the trendiest upset pick. Unless you disagree that everyone and their brother will pick us to lose a 6-11 match-up or 5-12 match up? And my point, which I didn't get across clearly apparently, was that people don't arbitrarily get upset when we get upset because they lose sight of differentiation in college basketball. It's the way in which we are losing these games which causes so much unrest. So saying "if both teams play normal, it's a coin flip" isn't really fair. We DON'T play normal in the NCAA tournament. And THAT is what the problem is. Our point guard breaks his hand, or we get seeded against a future NBA All Star, or our #2 defense nationally completely disappears. Nothing about the NCAA tournament has been "normal" for us except for 2012. And I am not laying blame 100% on the coaches or players(it certainly isn't their fault Chris broke his hand at the end of the season), I am just saying you can throw your stats and percentages out the window next week because they don't seem to apply once the BET ends.
|
|
CaliHoya
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 1,188
|
Post by CaliHoya on Mar 13, 2015 13:17:59 GMT -5
We're gonna be something like a 5 or a 6 seed. They get upset by 11 seeds all the time. It's not uncommon, in fact, I think 12 seeds have a winning record over the last few years. Our team is flawed. When we get three guys clicking on offense, we can be very good. But since we can't shoot and have a tendency to throw the ball away, that doesn't happen that often. These aren't meant to be words of assurance. It's just that this thread seems to be full of people who think that this team is eternally doomed to never win in March because of III or a curse or the uniforms or something and a group that thinks because DSR made a shot yesterday that he really could've missed that everything has changed. It hasn't. But good news is, curses aren't real. If we're a six seed, I suspect we go in as a slight favorite and the odds of us winning are 50-60%. And that'll be about the odds that we don't throw the ball away and Copeland hits some shots and they don't exploit the hell out of the corner three and DSR's onions shot goes in. The game will of course be played in a ton of little micro-moments and it could go either way, but the reality is, we aren't going to be huge favorites so it is going to be impossible for it to be a huge upset in reality. Totally agree that it's a perception problem, but it's hard for me to stress over the tourney. It is what it is. 6s lose to 11s a LOT. They win a lot, too. And unless we win the BET, we're not super likely to be a favorite in our second game. As usual, I agree with almost everything SFHoya99 is saying. We are a bit of a puzzle this year. On one hand, we have been very consistent. We all know RPI is flawed, but we haven't lost to a single team outside the top 37 in the RPI. In KenPom, we haven't lost to a single team below rank 43. On the other, our players have really been up and down individually (with the exception of DSR). Josh, Isaac, LJ, Mikael, Paul White, Tre Campbel, Jabril all seemingly have had streaks of bad games in a row at different times. Given our depth, this is perhaps why we're consistent. There's always some people playing well and some playing poorly, and we stay at a fairly constant level. At the same time, unless nearly all of our players crescendo at the same time, it's very difficult to say we are positioned for a strong run in the tourney. Will we be a slight favorite in Round 1? Sure, but as we've seen, seeds mean nothing that time of year. And as SF said, we're likely to be underdogs in Round 2, barring a lower seed upset. For me, I'm going into the tourney not looking past our first game. Throw the rest of our bracket away. Embrace that Round 1 will be a war regardless and that upsets are very common in the tournament. If we win, fabulous! At the start of the season, I would have taken the Round of 32 if I was offered it. If we lose, well, it's definitely disappointing, but not a disaster. Look at any tournament during the season (Thanksgiving tourneys, conference tourneys), and you'll see that anything can and will happen on a neutral court. Especially when the crowd loves to cheer for an upset.
|
|
sleepy
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 6,079
|
Post by sleepy on Mar 13, 2015 13:38:00 GMT -5
We're gonna be something like a 5 or a 6 seed. They get upset by 11 seeds all the time. It's not uncommon, in fact, I think 12 seeds have a winning record over the last few years. Our team is flawed. When we get three guys clicking on offense, we can be very good. But since we can't shoot and have a tendency to throw the ball away, that doesn't happen that often. These aren't meant to be words of assurance. It's just that this thread seems to be full of people who think that this team is eternally doomed to never win in March because of III or a curse or the uniforms or something and a group that thinks because DSR made a shot yesterday that he really could've missed that everything has changed. It hasn't. But good news is, curses aren't real. If we're a six seed, I suspect we go in as a slight favorite and the odds of us winning are 50-60%. And that'll be about the odds that we don't throw the ball away and Copeland hits some shots and they don't exploit the hell out of the corner three and DSR's onions shot goes in. The game will of course be played in a ton of little micro-moments and it could go either way, but the reality is, we aren't going to be huge favorites so it is going to be impossible for it to be a huge upset in reality. Totally agree that it's a perception problem, but it's hard for me to stress over the tourney. It is what it is. 6s lose to 11s a LOT. They win a lot, too. And unless we win the BET, we're not super likely to be a favorite in our second game. As usual, I agree with almost everything SFHoya99 is saying. We are a bit of a puzzle this year. On one hand, we have been very consistent. We all know RPI is flawed, but we haven't lost to a single team outside the top 37 in the RPI. In KenPom, we haven't lost to a single team below rank 43. On the other, our players have really been up and down individually (with the exception of DSR). Josh, Isaac, LJ, Mikael, Paul White, Tre Campbel, Jabril all seemingly have had streaks of bad games in a row at different times. Given our depth, this is perhaps why we're consistent. There's always some people playing well and some playing poorly, and we stay at a fairly constant level. At the same time, unless nearly all of our players crescendo at the same time, it's very difficult to say we are positioned for a strong run in the tourney. Will we be a slight favorite in Round 1? Sure, but as we've seen, seeds mean nothing that time of year. And as SF said, we're likely to be underdogs in Round 2, barring a lower seed upset. For me, I'm going into the tourney not looking past our first game. Throw the rest of our bracket away. Embrace that Round 1 will be a war regardless and that upsets are very common in the tournament. If we win, fabulous! At the start of the season, I would have taken the Round of 32 if I was offered it. If we lose, well, it's definitely disappointing, but not a disaster. Look at any tournament during the season (Thanksgiving tourneys, conference tourneys), and you'll see that anything can and will happen on a neutral court. Especially when the crowd loves to cheer for an upset. See, you guys seem to just be explaining away a first round upset as bad but not abnormal before it even happens. Sure maybe our loss to an 11 or a 12 seed is as normal and smooth as you guys believe it will be. However, there is also a chance we do something like give up a 20 point lead and lose by 20, or just completely fail to show up like we have in the past. So far, "normal" upsets are the outlier on our tournament resume which is the problem and causes a lot of the agnst. With our history, telling people not to overreact about the upset before you even know HOW we were upset, isn't really fair.
|
|
cheer48
Century (over 100 posts)
Posts: 180
|
Post by cheer48 on Mar 13, 2015 14:21:17 GMT -5
don`t believe that anyone would love to lose, speciaily Pops, (who is younger than I ),a cuss by the name of "J3" the squad itself or those who cheer "we are Georgetown "....go you Hoyas, give us as you always do your very best shot and let the ........ chips fall where they will !....love you, Doc
|
|
cheer48
Century (over 100 posts)
Posts: 180
|
Post by cheer48 on Mar 13, 2015 14:30:50 GMT -5
p,s,....for any wag counting the dots, I have a trace of stutter !
|
|
jwp91
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 6,040
|
Post by jwp91 on Mar 13, 2015 15:32:42 GMT -5
The truth.....
Playing in any knockout tournament is a crapshoot. Roll the dice and hope you don't crap out each game.
|
|
drquigley
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 3,386
|
Post by drquigley on Mar 13, 2015 16:05:00 GMT -5
John Feinstein recently wrote an article in the Washington Post explaining why its taken 40 years for a team to go undefeated. His theory...3 point shot. It's too easy for very good teams to lose to lesser teams that have 1-2 good shooters who get incredibly hot (Steph Curry anyone?). Last night Nova hit 17 threes. If they could duplicate that against Kentucky maybe Kentucky loses. It sure has hurt us over the years. It also has helped us. We were 6-12 against Nova while they were 7-23.
|
|
SFHoya99
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 17,791
|
Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 13, 2015 16:07:29 GMT -5
Good lord. We aren't guaranteed to be upset. If you really believe that, why are you watching? As for the rest, this is the real breakdown: 2 wins over lower seeded teams 2 Losses to underseeded, very good mid-majors who at least went to Elite Eight/Final Four 1 Close Loss to a lower seeded major conference school with NBA talent 2 Awful Upsets 2 NIT years It's not a good record by any means. It includes 5 seeding upsets, though three were closer to 60/40 or even 50/50 than the seedings would call out. So yeah, it sucks. But let's not paint it as a series of massive upsets. It's more like two massive upsets, a year where we could have made a run and lost another great team (2008) and the rest are more... we didn't make a run. Again, it's not a good record. It's not a mediocre record. It's bad. But people seem to portray all these games as Ohio/FGCU and they aren't. They are quite a bit different. Sorry, guaranteed to be upset in the mind of viewers and the media. You know we will be the trendiest upset pick. Unless you disagree that everyone and their brother will pick us to lose a 6-11 match-up or 5-12 match up? And my point, which I didn't get across clearly apparently, was that people don't arbitrarily get upset when we get upset because they lose sight of differentiation in college basketball. It's the way in which we are losing these games which causes so much unrest. So saying "if both teams play normal, it's a coin flip" isn't really fair. We DON'T play normal in the NCAA tournament. And THAT is what the problem is. Our point guard breaks his hand, or we get seeded against a future NBA All Star, or our #2 defense nationally completely disappears. Nothing about the NCAA tournament has been "normal" for us except for 2012. And I am not laying blame 100% on the coaches or players(it certainly isn't their fault Chris broke his hand at the end of the season), I am just saying you can throw your stats and percentages out the window next week because they don't seem to apply once the BET ends. Yeah, I didn't pick up what you were saying. I don't disagree except... I don't think we're fated to be snakebit. I think if we lose this year, it's likely because we just aren't a great team, just a good one. I'm not sure if I would enjoy the actual run more, if we make one, or the collective sigh of relief of the Hoya internet community at this point.
|
|
SFHoya99
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 17,791
|
Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 13, 2015 16:23:58 GMT -5
As usual, I agree with almost everything SFHoya99 is saying. We are a bit of a puzzle this year. On one hand, we have been very consistent. We all know RPI is flawed, but we haven't lost to a single team outside the top 37 in the RPI. In KenPom, we haven't lost to a single team below rank 43. On the other, our players have really been up and down individually (with the exception of DSR). Josh, Isaac, LJ, Mikael, Paul White, Tre Campbel, Jabril all seemingly have had streaks of bad games in a row at different times. Given our depth, this is perhaps why we're consistent. There's always some people playing well and some playing poorly, and we stay at a fairly constant level. At the same time, unless nearly all of our players crescendo at the same time, it's very difficult to say we are positioned for a strong run in the tourney. Will we be a slight favorite in Round 1? Sure, but as we've seen, seeds mean nothing that time of year. And as SF said, we're likely to be underdogs in Round 2, barring a lower seed upset. For me, I'm going into the tourney not looking past our first game. Throw the rest of our bracket away. Embrace that Round 1 will be a war regardless and that upsets are very common in the tournament. If we win, fabulous! At the start of the season, I would have taken the Round of 32 if I was offered it. If we lose, well, it's definitely disappointing, but not a disaster. Look at any tournament during the season (Thanksgiving tourneys, conference tourneys), and you'll see that anything can and will happen on a neutral court. Especially when the crowd loves to cheer for an upset. See, you guys seem to just be explaining away a first round upset as bad but not abnormal before it even happens. Sure maybe our loss to an 11 or a 12 seed is as normal and smooth as you guys believe it will be. However, there is also a chance we do something like give up a 20 point lead and lose by 20, or just completely fail to show up like we have in the past. So far, "normal" upsets are the outlier on our tournament resume which is the problem and causes a lot of the agnst. With our history, telling people not to overreact about the upset before you even know HOW we were upset, isn't really fair. Fair? I'm not sure how that comes into it. I just think the whole discussion is strange. On one side, we're doomed; on the other, there's now way this team is losing. I guess I'm just disagreeing with the certainty of everyone. I think it's weird, and incorrect. And I'd argue that extends past "we should definitely win/lose", sometimes to the style points you refer to as well. People on this board are obsessed, for example, with our scoring droughts or being flat... but few seemed to acknowledge CO's great post on how scoring droughts are normal or notice how every team comes out flat a lot. No team, even Kentucky, plays a great 40 minutes. That doesn't excuse complete dumps like Ohio or even not putting up a fight versus VCU but Seth Curry routinely blitzes NBA defenses, so let's acknowledge it happens more than you think. (And actually, as an aside... just looking at the Ohio game... We turned the ball over a ton, and we played some ty defense, but we also had a team shoot 58% from 2 and 56% from 3 on a ton of threes (13-23). A bunch of those were like step back 27-footers. People don't seem to remember we got it down to 7 with five minutes left, then Chris missed a three, Benimon missed the front end of a 1 and 1 and they hit a three... ugh. My point: my memory is that we never fought back but we did. They hit shot after shot and while our defense was not great, that was an offensive assault partially fueled by hitting tough shots.) We've had a terrible run. I don't think it's all bad luck. I just think so much of the angst (and conversely, so much of the chest-bumping when a team goes on a run) can be overstated because we sometimes forget certain competitive realities. And I have no idea why you'd want to stress and overreact NOW to a game where the team doesn't show up at all.
|
|
sleepy
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 6,079
|
Post by sleepy on Mar 13, 2015 16:58:03 GMT -5
Sorry, guaranteed to be upset in the mind of viewers and the media. You know we will be the trendiest upset pick. Unless you disagree that everyone and their brother will pick us to lose a 6-11 match-up or 5-12 match up? And my point, which I didn't get across clearly apparently, was that people don't arbitrarily get upset when we get upset because they lose sight of differentiation in college basketball. It's the way in which we are losing these games which causes so much unrest. So saying "if both teams play normal, it's a coin flip" isn't really fair. We DON'T play normal in the NCAA tournament. And THAT is what the problem is. Our point guard breaks his hand, or we get seeded against a future NBA All Star, or our #2 defense nationally completely disappears. Nothing about the NCAA tournament has been "normal" for us except for 2012. And I am not laying blame 100% on the coaches or players(it certainly isn't their fault Chris broke his hand at the end of the season), I am just saying you can throw your stats and percentages out the window next week because they don't seem to apply once the BET ends. Yeah, I didn't pick up what you were saying. I don't disagree except... I don't think we're fated to be snakebit. I think if we lose this year, it's likely because we just aren't a great team, just a good one. I'm not sure if I would enjoy the actual run more, if we make one, or the collective sigh of relief of the Hoya internet community at this point. I don't know if we are fated to be snake bitten but I can't ignore that all but one of our last 5 NCAA tournament appearances have included dramatics of the most depressing sort. Yes, we may lose because we aren't a great team, but not being a great team isn't what has held us back in the past. Sure, we still might have lost those games had we played a "normal" game, but we will never know because incredible bad luck and complete and utter disappearing acts got in the way. It's how we get upset this year that should determine the level of outrage on the board. If we get dominated by 20+ points by an 11 or 12 seed and are never in the game or some other Georgetownesque tournament shenanigans unfold, I would say more than just "not being a great team" was at play. If it's more of a "we gave it our best shot, they gave it their best shot and we just fell short" type of affair, well that is a horse of a different color, and completely different that 80% of our tournament failings.
|
|
Big Dog
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 3,912
|
Post by Big Dog on Mar 13, 2015 16:58:43 GMT -5
See, you guys seem to just be explaining away a first round upset as bad but not abnormal before it even happens. Sure maybe our loss to an 11 or a 12 seed is as normal and smooth as you guys believe it will be. However, there is also a chance we do something like give up a 20 point lead and lose by 20, or just completely fail to show up like we have in the past. So far, "normal" upsets are the outlier on our tournament resume which is the problem and causes a lot of the agnst. With our history, telling people not to overreact about the upset before you even know HOW we were upset, isn't really fair. Fair? I'm not sure how that comes into it. I just think the whole discussion is strange. On one side, we're doomed; on the other, there's now way this team is losing. I guess I'm just disagreeing with the certainty of everyone. I think it's weird, and incorrect. And I'd argue that extends past "we should definitely win/lose", sometimes to the style points you refer to as well. People on this board are obsessed, for example, with our scoring droughts or being flat... but few seemed to acknowledge CO's great post on how scoring droughts are normal or notice how every team comes out flat a lot. No team, even Kentucky, plays a great 40 minutes. That doesn't excuse complete dumps like Ohio or even not putting up a fight versus VCU but Seth Curry routinely blitzes NBA defenses, so let's acknowledge it happens more than you think. (And actually, as an aside... just looking at the Ohio game... We turned the ball over a ton, and we played some Editedty defense, but we also had a team shoot 58% from 2 and 56% from 3 on a ton of threes (13-23). A bunch of those were like step back 27-footers. People don't seem to remember we got it down to 7 with five minutes left, then Chris missed a three, Benimon missed the front end of a 1 and 1 and they hit a three... ugh. My point: my memory is that we never fought back but we did. They hit shot after shot and while our defense was not great, that was an offensive assault partially fueled by hitting tough shots.) We've had a terrible run. I don't think it's all bad luck. I just think so much of the angst (and conversely, so much of the chest-bumping when a team goes on a run) can be overstated because we sometimes forget certain competitive realities. And I have no idea why you'd want to stress and overreact NOW to a game where the team doesn't show up at all. This. This. 1,000 times this. I have no idea what is going to happen next weekend. Nothing is set in stone, nothing is fated. It is probably something like 47% we go out in Round 1, 28% we exit on Saturday/Sunday, and 25% we get to the Sweet 16.
|
|
Big Dog
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 3,912
|
Post by Big Dog on Mar 13, 2015 16:59:58 GMT -5
Yeah, I didn't pick up what you were saying. I don't disagree except... I don't think we're fated to be snakebit. I think if we lose this year, it's likely because we just aren't a great team, just a good one. I'm not sure if I would enjoy the actual run more, if we make one, or the collective sigh of relief of the Hoya internet community at this point. I don't know if we are fated to be snake bitten but I can't ignore that all but one of our last 5 NCAA tournament appearances have included dramatics of the most depressing sort. Yes, we may lose because we aren't a great team, but not being a great team isn't what has held us back in the past. Sure, we still might have lost those games had we played a "normal" game, but we will never know because incredible bad luck and complete and utter disappearing acts got in the way. It's how we get upset this year that should determine the level of outrage on the board. If we get dominated by 20+ points by an 11 or 12 seed and are never in the game or some other Georgetownesque tournament shenanigans unfold, I would say more than just "not being a great team" was at play. If it's more of a "we gave it our best shot, they gave it their best shot and we just fell short" type of affair, well that is a horse of a different color, and completely different that 80% of our tournament failings. Just chill to the bracket comes out. If we're facing Texas in a 5/12 or 6/11 game, it isn't going to take any Georgetown "shenanigans" (whatever those are) for an "upset" to occur.
|
|
SFHoya99
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 17,791
|
Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 13, 2015 17:07:09 GMT -5
Somewhere on this board, someone was like "don't give us LSU" - they just lost to freaking Auburn. On Casual, people are afraid of Harvard.
I'm a worrywart in real life, but here, I think I'm just tired of the entire fanbase thinking every team is a bad matchup.
|
|
sleepy
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 6,079
|
Post by sleepy on Mar 13, 2015 17:17:49 GMT -5
I don't know if we are fated to be snake bitten but I can't ignore that all but one of our last 5 NCAA tournament appearances have included dramatics of the most depressing sort. Yes, we may lose because we aren't a great team, but not being a great team isn't what has held us back in the past. Sure, we still might have lost those games had we played a "normal" game, but we will never know because incredible bad luck and complete and utter disappearing acts got in the way. It's how we get upset this year that should determine the level of outrage on the board. If we get dominated by 20+ points by an 11 or 12 seed and are never in the game or some other Georgetownesque tournament shenanigans unfold, I would say more than just "not being a great team" was at play. If it's more of a "we gave it our best shot, they gave it their best shot and we just fell short" type of affair, well that is a horse of a different color, and completely different that 80% of our tournament failings. Just chill to the bracket comes out. If we're facing Texas in a 5/12 or 6/11 game, it isn't going to take any Georgetown "shenanigans" (whatever those are) for an "upset" to occur. You still seem to be missing the point. It's not about losing, it's about how we are losing. Giving up 19 point second half leads, being blown out by double digit seeds on the regular, having our point guard injured, having out shooting guard diagnosed with diabetes, being a two seed facing a future NBA all-star for a road game in the second round. All of these things, as isolated incidents, are going to happen to teams in the tournament. To have them happen so frequently and consecutively to one team, I think we can all agree is unusual. Had we simply lost to any of those teams, that would be one thing, but we seemingly go out of our way to make losses to double digit seeds more embarrassing than they are on their own. When we aren't completely handicapped by luck or injuries that is. What will be fun is that it is possible we end up with a 5/12 match-up with an excellent Davidson team. Imagine this board if that happens.
|
|
Big Dog
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 3,912
|
Post by Big Dog on Mar 13, 2015 17:18:19 GMT -5
Somewhere on this board, someone was like "don't give us LSU" - they just lost to freaking Auburn. On Casual, people are afraid of Harvard. I'm a worrywart in real life, but here, I think I'm just tired of the entire fanbase thinking every team is a bad matchup. It is fanbase PTSD. You would have a difficult time imagining a more traumatic period than that which culminated in 2013 FGCU. It makes sense that people can't get over it. But this is supposed to be the fun time of year! We aren't UCLA playing for our tourney lives tonight. We get at least two more Hoyas games and get to be a part of the discussion with something to prove. I remember well my senior year on campus when I was ECSTATIC just to be in the tournament for the first time during my four years at the school. Trying to tap into that now. Let's enjoy the game tonight and the next 6 days or whatever.
|
|
FLHoya
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Proud Member of Generation Burton
Posts: 4,544
|
Post by FLHoya on Mar 13, 2015 18:35:43 GMT -5
It's too easy for very good teams to lose to lesser teams that have 1-2 good shooters who get incredibly hot (Steph Curry anyone?). Last night Nova hit 17 threes. If they could duplicate that against Kentucky maybe Kentucky loses. Of course, the team whose record Villanova tied lost in the Tournament to Steph Curry, so bravo for the unintended synergy.
|
|
hoyainla
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Suspended
Posts: 4,719
|
Post by hoyainla on Mar 13, 2015 23:17:55 GMT -5
My only take away from this game if III doesn't come out pressing and speeding the game up in our first tourney game I'll be disappointed. Someone earlier said it best sometimes you got to play checkers and not chess.
|
|
DallasHoya
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 1,636
|
Post by DallasHoya on Mar 13, 2015 23:20:32 GMT -5
Any chance JTIII starts White over Peak next week? Way overdue.
|
|
GIGAFAN99
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 4,487
|
Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 13, 2015 23:20:55 GMT -5
Getting within three possessions of a lousy Ohio team, I can't consider fighting.
These last two nights I consider fighting. Still think this team is different.
|
|
|
Post by HometownHoya on Mar 13, 2015 23:22:35 GMT -5
We may win, we may lose...all I know is I'll enjoy the game just as much as I have this season.
|
|