dreamhoya
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Post by dreamhoya on Feb 11, 2015 15:52:56 GMT -5
...Just noticed that when Copeland plays close to 20 minutes, he averages close to 8 rebounds. Interesting.
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GUJook97
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Post by GUJook97 on Feb 11, 2015 15:56:35 GMT -5
maybe he knew those were the last 90 seconds he would play in the next 12-24 months. Yep. I sort of think he was like, F'this, I am outta here.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 11, 2015 16:01:13 GMT -5
maybe he knew those were the last 90 seconds he would play in the next 12-24 months. Yep. I sort of think he was like, F'this, I am outta here. Still not the last impression you want to put out there for other programs who might be interested in you.
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drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Feb 11, 2015 16:06:12 GMT -5
From the Seton Hall campus paper, The Setonian: www.thesetonian.com/news/view.php/860218/Pirates-lose-ugly-one-to-Georgetown-as-lHeading into this game there was controversy surrounding the team following comments made by Mobley and tweets made by Whitehead after the Marquette loss on Saturday. Willard declined comment on the matter of team chemistry, simply saying that the issues had been addressed.
Meanwhile, multiple sources tell The Setonian that Whitehead and Gibbs came to near-blows in a team huddle during a second half timeout around the 11:19 mark of Tuesday's game. No punches were thrown but Gibbs had to be separated by associate head coach Shaheen Holloway as things escalated. Apparently, the two guards have been at the center of the team's ongoing locker room divide.
Seton Hall players were not made available to the media following the game, though Whitehead tweeted, “Imma Give Everybody What They Want That’s It Watch,” shortly after the game. He also changed both his profile picture and cover pictures to photos of pitch blackness on his Twitter account. Following the Marquette loss, Whitehead tweeted, "No More Of That Brother Stuff Strictly Business Partners."
And this is all before Jaren Sina dropped the bombshell today that he is immediately leaving the program. Those of you who criticize JT3 should appreciate that he has never allowed this kind of crap to occur on one of his teams. I know Jesse and Chris didn't get along and a few years ago Markel acted like an idiot and had to be benched but despite the calm demeanor, JT3 controls this team. Last year he suspended Josh to make this point and two years ago showed Whit the door. Just another reason I respect coach. Not just because he can control his players but he doesn't recruit knuckleheads like Whithead and Gibbs.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Feb 11, 2015 16:15:06 GMT -5
Let's see. He was a BIG EAST All-Rookie Team selection and earned BIG EAST Academic All-Star recognition. Also, I saw that he was the hardest working SH player last night. If he translates that hard work to his off time, then he can only get better. It happened today. How can the staff have shown interest? Time will tell. Just watching last night, he doesn't look quite good enough to be an average starter in the BE. If he were available for next year, given our lack of guards, that might be one thing, but he's not. He doesn't have the size or athleticism to score from inside the arc, he's not a creator or distributor and while he shot 28% from 3 last year, he's only at 32% this year. But he did shoot 38% last year and he's a good but not great FT shooter. I don't think he's a starter at GU and the two years of scholarship-taking-but-not-playing really kills it for me. We'll see in time, but he has the credentials to play in any BE team. TTS, who are pretty good in weeding out chemistry-killers.
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Cambridge
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Post by Cambridge on Feb 11, 2015 16:22:55 GMT -5
Rutgers makes so much more sense if only for the fact that he would only have to sit one year.
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njhoya78
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Post by njhoya78 on Feb 11, 2015 17:10:35 GMT -5
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Feb 11, 2015 18:54:21 GMT -5
These refs are desperately trying to keep this game close. So they will probably call this a flagrant foul. You are actually making me come out of my self-imposed retirement as far as criticizing the refs, but that is exactly how I feel.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Feb 11, 2015 19:11:12 GMT -5
Glad to see this lineup with White and Copeland. Cope is capable of holding his own against fellow freshman, there are no grown men on that court. Nice dish to White for the dunk. I have to say, I've been calling for this lineup for quite some time. Copeland and White are like Porter and Whittington, only better.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Feb 11, 2015 19:15:37 GMT -5
Hop has had a couple sweet back door passes too. Yes, Hops is by far the best facilitator of the ball. Heck, lets give him some credit at least for that.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Feb 11, 2015 19:44:20 GMT -5
From the Seton Hall campus paper, The Setonian: www.thesetonian.com/news/view.php/860218/Pirates-lose-ugly-one-to-Georgetown-as-lHeading into this game there was controversy surrounding the team following comments made by Mobley and tweets made by Whitehead after the Marquette loss on Saturday. Willard declined comment on the matter of team chemistry, simply saying that the issues had been addressed.
Meanwhile, multiple sources tell The Setonian that Whitehead and Gibbs came to near-blows in a team huddle during a second half timeout around the 11:19 mark of Tuesday's game. No punches were thrown but Gibbs had to be separated by associate head coach Shaheen Holloway as things escalated. Apparently, the two guards have been at the center of the team's ongoing locker room divide.
Seton Hall players were not made available to the media following the game, though Whitehead tweeted, “Imma Give Everybody What They Want That’s It Watch,” shortly after the game. He also changed both his profile picture and cover pictures to photos of pitch blackness on his Twitter account. Following the Marquette loss, Whitehead tweeted, "No More Of That Brother Stuff Strictly Business Partners."
And this is all before Jaren Sina dropped the bombshell today that he is immediately leaving the program. Those of you who criticize JT3 should appreciate that he has never allowed this kind of crap to occur on one of his teams. I know Jesse and Chris didn't get along and a few years ago Markel acted like an idiot and had to be benched but despite the calm demeanor, JT3 controls this team. Last year he suspended Josh to make this point and two years ago showed Whit the door. Just another reason I respect coach. Not just because he can control his players but he doesn't recruit knuckleheads like Whithead and Gibbs. Now, we just need to get back to the Final Four.
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njhoya78
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Post by njhoya78 on Feb 11, 2015 19:44:44 GMT -5
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 11, 2015 20:09:58 GMT -5
Glad to see this lineup with White and Copeland. Cope is capable of holding his own against fellow freshman, there are no grown men on that court. Nice dish to White for the dunk. I have to say, I've been calling for this lineup for quite some time. Copeland and White are like Porter and Whittington, only better. So which one will be the #3 pick in the draft?
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richfame
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Post by richfame on Feb 11, 2015 20:39:57 GMT -5
One thing know ones talking about is Reggie cameron. I think hitting that reverse layup really helped boost his confidence. If I were the coach I'd give Reggie some run. He can be a huge asset for us the rest of the way.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 11, 2015 21:03:12 GMT -5
One thing know ones talking about is Reggie cameron. I think hitting that reverse layup really helped boost his confidence. If I were the coach I'd give Reggie some run. He can be a huge asset for us the rest of the way. Not sure a garbage time layup will do that much. But if RC could find his shot he can be a piece of the puzzle we could use.
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Post by hoyarooter on Feb 11, 2015 21:25:38 GMT -5
Sina will have options. I seriously doubt that he'll want to sit for two years in order to remain in the Big East, so even if we were to have interest in him, I doubt that he'd have interest in us.
Wow, what a mess at the Hall.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 11, 2015 21:38:43 GMT -5
I assume you meant overselling? If so, I agree.
Cameron was recruited to hit 3's and not for his ability to get to the rim or to play lock-down D. Until he starts hitting from distance consistently, there are multiple options ahead of him that are more favorable.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 11, 2015 21:59:46 GMT -5
Sina will have options. I seriously doubt that he'll want to sit for two years in order to remain in the Big East, so even if we were to have interest in him, I doubt that he'd have interest in us. Wow, what a mess at the Hall. What's more insane is that there doesn't seem to be any kind of remote consensus on what exactly happened or why Sina left. There's a group of folks who think he left because Gibbs and Whitehead are feuding and fighting. There's a group that puts it on Whitehead's crew (assistant coach, Whitehead, Whitehead's AAU teammates) being selfish and creating the environment. There's a group that claims all those guys are team players and it's Gibbs that is the complete ass. And there's a shockingly compelling group that claims Sina really left because Willard made him PT promises and finally benched him last night because Whitehead and Gibbs are both better and the team had been getting Editeded for a while at his PT despite not being very good. Absolutely nuts.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 11, 2015 23:30:14 GMT -5
Sina will have options. I seriously doubt that he'll want to sit for two years in order to remain in the Big East, so even if we were to have interest in him, I doubt that he'd have interest in us. Wow, what a mess at the Hall. What's more insane is that there doesn't seem to be any kind of remote consensus on what exactly happened or why Sina left. There's a group of folks who think he left because Gibbs and Whitehead are feuding and fighting. There's a group that puts it on Whitehead's crew (assistant coach, Whitehead, Whitehead's AAU teammates) being selfish and creating the environment. There's a group that claims all those guys are team players and it's Gibbs that is the complete ass. And there's a shockingly compelling group that claims Sina really left because Willard made him PT promises and finally benched him last night because Whitehead and Gibbs are both better and the team had been getting Editeded for a while at his PT despite not being very good. Absolutely nuts. The other rumour is that Sina had a meltdown before the game when it was announced that he wasn't starting. I realize that starting is a big deal to these guys but makes you appreciate how Mikhael Hopkins has handled his benching with class.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 11, 2015 23:30:48 GMT -5
Done with what? Hoyatalk?
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