tashoya
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Jan 8, 2015 22:12:32 GMT -5
Post by tashoya on Jan 8, 2015 22:12:32 GMT -5
very cool video pretty funny dude and a GREAT FROSH too told you from kenner quickest id seen going to the hoop and finishing since that AI fella remember i said that folks remember i know some said its only kenner but LJ THE REAL DEAL FROM DAY ONE> He's pretty quick. When you start mentioning AI, people will take issue for good reason. I don't ever recall an athlete in any sport that I've ever watched as quick as AI. He's incomparable in my mind. If you compared him to a Ty Lawson or Kemba Walker or even Shabazz Napier, I think you'd get less in the way of backlash. That said, I think LJ can get quicker if he gets on the DSR workout program.
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lichoya68
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Jan 9, 2015 22:39:28 GMT -5
Post by lichoya68 on Jan 9, 2015 22:39:28 GMT -5
As i said in kenner quickest hoya SINCE AI i ve seen going to the hoop ? AGREE? not as quick or tough as AI but quickest going to the hoop and finishing SINCE AI whata you think // I said that from KENNER LJ peak the best is yet to come.
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Jan 10, 2015 15:02:17 GMT -5
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Post by Eurostar on Jan 10, 2015 15:02:17 GMT -5
He's playing too many minutes. Averaging 34+ minutes in the last 6 games. Not sure why he's playing so much as compared to the other freshman. White playing about 20min per game with Campbell and Copeland getting 5-10min per game.
He looked tired at the end of this Providence game. Tugging his shorts and being lazy on that switch at the top of the key to leave Dunn open for that huge 3. I'd like to see the other 3 freshmen take a few of his minutes to get him down to around 25 per game.
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rockhoya
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Jan 10, 2015 15:23:05 GMT -5
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Post by rockhoya on Jan 10, 2015 15:23:05 GMT -5
He's playing too many minutes. Averaging 34+ minutes in the last 6 games. Not sure why he's playing so much as compared to the other freshman. White playing about 20min per game with Campbell and Copeland getting 5-10min per game. He looked tired at the end of this Providence game. Tugging his shorts and being lazy on that switch at the top of the key to leave Dunn open for that huge 3. I'd like to see the other 3 freshmen take a few of his minutes to get him down to around 25 per game. I agree. What I think we may be seeing with this years team is III coaching for the end of the season, rather than this portion. It's hard to keep a team well-oiled for a full 30 game schedule, and III still seems to be tinkering with rotations and schemes to see what works best so that we are in as good a position as can be come February and March. I think he's doing some of the same with his players (at least I hope) so that we can better catch teams off-guard come tournament time. At least that's how I try and justify certain things like DSR's passiveness, and the curious rotation of minutes for some players (LJ like you mentioned). So we'll see how the team and the roles even out in February, but for now seems very much still like a work in progress. And re: that last Dunn three, I don't think it was LJ being lazy (maybe tired) as much as it was just him daring the kid to shoot. I was wondering constantly iver the last 10 minutes when someone would start daring him to shoot. Unfortunately for us he started taking them in crunch time and his last two or three.
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Jan 10, 2015 20:25:41 GMT -5
Post by NCHoya on Jan 10, 2015 20:25:41 GMT -5
LJ is starting to hit the wall, and it should be expected with the minutes he is logging. I think he should definitely see some of his minutes go to Bowen, White and Campbell. Interesting to see this play out, I just do not see his minutes right now being sustainable.
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Jan 10, 2015 20:51:41 GMT -5
Post by hoyalove4ever on Jan 10, 2015 20:51:41 GMT -5
LJ is playing a lot because III (correctly) believes that he is just so talented that with time and minutes, things will click for him eventually. In addition, even as a freshman who has a huge learning curve and may be hitting the proverbial wall, he still is one of the best five players the team can field at most times. As fans, we need to be patient with this young man. He is going to be an exceptional player with time.
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Jan 12, 2015 11:01:35 GMT -5
Post by johnnysnowplow on Jan 12, 2015 11:01:35 GMT -5
LJ is playing a lot because III (correctly) believes that he is just so talented that with time and minutes, things will click for him eventually. In addition, even as a freshman who has a huge learning curve and may be hitting the proverbial wall, he still is one of the best five players the team can field at most times. As fans, we need to be patient with this young man. He is going to be an exceptional player with time. Debatable. I'd argue at this stage of his career he's really not any better than Bowen. He may well end up being exceptional, but right now he's not even close to that. Cut his minutes a little and let him regroup a bit. And at the same time, it gives guys like Copeland and Tre a chance to develop a little more. He's been at 31+ MPG since the Kansas game (save for Radford where we coasted and he played like garbage and so he sat). In those games his ORtg has gone 97, 68, 135, 67, 94, 147, 89, 75 - the two good games coming against Charlotte and Creighton. IMO his play hasn't earned him 30+ mpg.
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Jan 12, 2015 15:33:22 GMT -5
Post by Ranch Dressing on Jan 12, 2015 15:33:22 GMT -5
At the start of the season, I thought we had found a freshman who could finish around the hoop under pressure. This has not borne out to be accurate. When driving to the hoop, LJ is struggling to maintain body control and position to put up shots that have a chance to go down.
He's got to pick his spots a little better and when he drives to the tin, make sure he's got a plan of attack. Right now, he makes the athletic move many times and then he's kind of caught up in the air without a viable shot attempt.
Keep working, big fella. These things will come. Oh, and shoot 1,000,000 3 pointers this summer.
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Jan 29, 2015 10:36:50 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 10:36:50 GMT -5
But the Hoyas also got a huge boost from freshman Isaac Copeland, who hit what turned out to be the go-ahead three. The comparison between Copeland and Georgetown’s LJ Peak is a perfect example of why we need to be careful interpreting any freshmen stats. This is only a snap-shot of evolving players. Georgetown’s Copeland was the higher ranked player out of high school. Copeland ranked 28th while Peak ranked 63rd. But Peak proved to be the more confident player in summer-league play and in practice, and he’s been the early star. Peak is scoring 9.5 PPG to Copeland’s 4.5 PPG. Advanced stats followers would tell you that this is all about playing time. Because of Peak’s struggles from three in recent weeks, Copeland’s ORtg Is actually 10 points higher than Peak’s ORtg. But if you want to argue that Copeland is the better player, I’ll strongly disagree with that line of reasoning. Copeland has played more minutes against backups, while Peak has been starting, and teams have been game-planning to take away Peak’s strengths. And on Sunday we saw the result of a defense that had not game-planned against Copeland. Copeland had taken just six threes since mid-December and made just one in the stretch of games leading up to Saturday. And thus on the final play, when the 6’9” forward went towards the corner, the Butler defense didn’t even flinch. It wasn’t worth covering him out there. But Copeland is a young star, and he was not afraid of the moment. And with ice-water in his veins, he nailed the come-from-behind, game-winning three. As great as that play was, don’t discount what Peak has done as a starter. Peak has been great at getting steals, and great at attacking in transition. Based on over 10 years of stats, the average RSCI freshman ranked 61-100 scores just over 5 points per game, has an ORtg of 96, uses just 19% of the team’s possessions, and plays only 14 minutes per game. As the first chart shows, Peak is exceeding all those numbers in the early going. basketball.realgm.com/analysis/236316/Freshmen-Ranked-61-100
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Jan 29, 2015 11:13:12 GMT -5
Post by Talos on Jan 29, 2015 11:13:12 GMT -5
I think his first game set unrealistic expectations for LJ. Even though his offense has struggled at times, I still think he's a solid contributor in a lot of areas for a freshman starting in the Big East. It seems the biggest adjustment he has to make is how to learn to score against opponents who have the same size and athleticism as him. In HS, he could score at will but at this level he needs to develop some countermoves while going against other good athletes. Like a lot of freshmen, I think we'll see huge improvement from his freshman to sophomore year. The only real concern I have with him is the form on his jumper; I don't recall too many consistently good shooters who had such little rotation on the ball.
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Jan 29, 2015 11:19:59 GMT -5
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 29, 2015 11:19:59 GMT -5
LJ will be a huge factor the next 2 (hopefully 3) years. He needs to work on his defensive principles - like almost every freshman in the country. He needs to work on keeping body control when he drives to the hoop - again like most frosh. And he will work on his form from outside. But he has that confidence and fearlessness that can't be taught. Excited to see the rest of his career.
Hope these few days help him get back to 100%.
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Jan 29, 2015 11:31:15 GMT -5
Post by lichoya68 on Jan 29, 2015 11:31:15 GMT -5
Need him but if not healthy dont force the issue big east war breaking out in ohmaha ha ha go hoyas
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Jan 29, 2015 14:22:30 GMT -5
Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 29, 2015 14:22:30 GMT -5
I think his first game set unrealistic expectations for LJ. I think this is true. He was amazing in that first game, and I think a lot of us (including me) had huge expectations as a result. I still think the raw talent is there for Peak to have many, many, more performances like that, I just think it probably will not happen consistently until he gets more experience and improves in some ways. Peak is still an extremely exciting player, and he manages to get points. It's true that his efficiency is probably lower than one would want to see, but I think he's really close to getting there. I still think he will be a very good player for us.
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Post by paulioz7 on Jan 29, 2015 14:59:25 GMT -5
I think a lot of his time has been dictated by foul trouble of other players as well as Peak being a better offensive player. He is a natural scorer and will probably be in the top three on the team over the next few years. Bowen is athletic. Trawick draws fouls but neither to me is a better offensive player than LJ. I really don't think it's close. Thompson seems to be getting all players some quality time if they can stay out of foul trouble.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jan 29, 2015 17:40:15 GMT -5
I'm willing to bet that many of Peak's shots that he misses on drives this year will fall with more consistency next year.
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tashoya
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Feb 8, 2015 17:08:00 GMT -5
Post by tashoya on Feb 8, 2015 17:08:00 GMT -5
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Feb 8, 2015 17:51:49 GMT -5
Post by beenaround on Feb 8, 2015 17:51:49 GMT -5
I view LJ as extremely raw at this point. I'm assuming he dominated in HS due to his strength and athleticism. He needs a summer of hard work on his outside shot, and just minor adjustments on his finishes in the lane. I view Copeland and White as more polished at this point (despite PW's slump), but fully expect to see LJ substantially improved next year.
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Feb 8, 2015 19:59:00 GMT -5
Post by EasyEd on Feb 8, 2015 19:59:00 GMT -5
Guess I saw a different game than some but I thought LJ played an overall good game against Nova. He was the one who was consistently attacking the basket, something absent from most of the others. Often he did not finish well; just needs to learn the pull-up jumper instead of always taking it all the way to the basket. His outside shot is not consistently falling but his form is good. I want to see him continue to get lots of minutes.
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Feb 8, 2015 20:09:06 GMT -5
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 8, 2015 20:09:06 GMT -5
Guess I saw a different game than some but I thought LJ played an overall good game against Nova. He was the one who was consistently attacking the basket, something absent from most of the others. Often he did not finish well; just needs to learn the pull-up jumper instead of always taking it all the way to the basket. His outside shot is not consistently falling but his form is good. I want to see him continue to get lots of minutes. LJ needs to get stronger, just like Paul and Ike. That will give him the confidence to use that jump shot and go up strong with the jumper. Can't wait to see all of their futures, as well as Tre - and Trey! For this year they all need to pause a beat, play to their strengths and not try to do too much. It's coming. Got feel it.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Feb 8, 2015 20:56:25 GMT -5
If someone just teaches him how to snap his wrist on his jumpshot it will be fine. He throws up a knuckleball push shot for some reason.
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