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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Jan 19, 2015 14:04:02 GMT -5
Josh is looking pretty good going against Carlton Bragg's VASJ team his defensive has been very disruptive
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Post by Talos on Jan 19, 2015 14:46:08 GMT -5
Josh is looking pretty good going against Carlton Bragg's VASJ team his defensive has been very disruptive Yeah, I was watching some of the game too. Don't know what happened with him, but it seemed like he was a huge fan of the program and went to a lot of games last year. I have to think if the staff really wanted him, we could have beat out Penn State.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 21, 2015 13:20:38 GMT -5
Penn State has lost 5 games in a row, likely to make it 6 tonight in East Lansing, MI. That will put them at 0-6 in the Big Ten.
Pat Chambers' record (Overall, Conference) in his first 3 seasons at Penn State:
2011-2012: 12-20, 4-14 2012-2013: 10-21, 2-16 2013-2014: 16-18, 6-12
I don't see much chance this guy survives. As such, I hope the Hoyas are in touch with Josh's people, as he's likely to be recruitable this spring. Same goes for Brandon Sampson who recently committed to St. John's.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 21, 2015 14:04:28 GMT -5
PSU has a strong class coming in next year (for them). They may retain him just for that reason.
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Post by bkhoya on Jan 21, 2015 17:51:01 GMT -5
I don't get it. He's a shooting guard that can't shoot and isn't a bucket getter. The Hoyas need each.
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Jan 21, 2015 17:53:02 GMT -5
I don't get it. He's a shooting guard that can't shoot and isn't a bucket getter. The Hoyas need each. He's a shorter Bowen
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Post by bkhoya on Jan 21, 2015 17:57:43 GMT -5
He's like 6'3. The Hoyas desperately need a guard like his Oak Hill teammate Dwayne Bacon, not a shorter Bowen who people only truly learned to appreciate his senior year as he's finally gotten some extended minutes.
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Post by DoctorHoya on Jan 21, 2015 17:59:34 GMT -5
But he is also a guard that is a better option than anything else that's still on the table. I'd be thrilled to get this guy
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Jan 21, 2015 18:12:29 GMT -5
I'd give him at least 6'4 and 180 lbs. Coming out of high school he's fairly equal to Bowen which means he could possibly bring more to the table in the next four years. The biggest difference between the two is that Reaves is a better perimeter defender at this point, where as Bowen is good at committing fouls on the three point shooter.
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Jan 21, 2015 18:21:12 GMT -5
I think if he had a better handle alone we probably wouldn't have passed on him. He needs to be more consistent with his shot but I do agree with wanting Bacon, I wanted both of them as a package deal.
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Post by blueandgray on Jan 21, 2015 18:33:36 GMT -5
We've got to be more selective with our schollies at this point, especially with our wing players. Right now we are starting to hit our stride and play good ball. The better we play and the deeper we go, the higher quality kids we get. I rather roll the dice and hold off for top 50 '16 talent.
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Post by bkhoya on Jan 21, 2015 19:00:41 GMT -5
I agree with Blueandgray. When Reaves wouldn't be able to stretch the defense at all, people would be screaming for the next guy to step in. But Bacon....man he's exactly what the Hoyas need.
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Post by DoctorHoya on Jan 21, 2015 19:06:49 GMT -5
I agree with Blueandgray. When Reaves wouldn't be able to stretch the defense at all, people would be screaming for the next guy to step in. But Bacon....man he's exactly what the Hoyas need. Unfortunately, Bacon is off the table. We have two guards on the roster after this year... 2!!!! And will have 1 on the roster after next year. Yes there may be talent in the 2016 class, but do you want freshman who don't know the system to be running the show when we have such good returning talent. I'd happily spare a scholarship for this guy if it means having another serviceable guard who knows the system
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Post by HoyaChris on Jan 21, 2015 19:25:31 GMT -5
I agree with Blueandgray. When Reaves wouldn't be able to stretch the defense at all, people would be screaming for the next guy to step in. But Bacon....man he's exactly what the Hoyas need. Unfortunately, Bacon is off the table. We have two guards on the roster after this year... 2!!!! And will have 1 on the roster after next year. Yes there may be talent in the 2016 class, but do you want freshman who don't know the system to be running the show when we have such good returning talent. I'd happily spare a scholarship for this guy if it means having another serviceable guard who knows the system My assumption is that Paul White will see significant minutes at guard next year.
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 21, 2015 19:36:58 GMT -5
Peak will also see time at guard.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 21, 2015 19:38:48 GMT -5
I agree with Blueandgray. When Reaves wouldn't be able to stretch the defense at all, people would be screaming for the next guy to step in. But Bacon....man he's exactly what the Hoyas need. Unfortunately, Bacon is off the table. We have two guards on the roster after this year... 2!!!! And will have 1 on the roster after next year. Yes there may be talent in the 2016 class, but do you want freshman who don't know the system to be running the show when we have such good returning talent. I'd happily spare a scholarship for this guy if it means having another serviceable guard who knows the system Huh? Next year we will likely have Peak, DSR and Campbell. Are we still on this kick of "the roster says Peak is a forward so I will ignore that everything about his game says guard." We still should be looking at guards for 2015 -- no one wants three guards only and I'm not sold on the Paul White at guard idea, but there's no need to overstate the issue.
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Post by HoyaChris on Jan 21, 2015 19:47:07 GMT -5
Unfortunately, Bacon is off the table. We have two guards on the roster after this year... 2!!!! And will have 1 on the roster after next year. Yes there may be talent in the 2016 class, but do you want freshman who don't know the system to be running the show when we have such good returning talent. I'd happily spare a scholarship for this guy if it means having another serviceable guard who knows the system Huh? Next year we will likely have Peak, DSR and Campbell. Are we still on this kick of "the roster says Peak is a forward so I will ignore that everything about his game says guard." We still should be looking at guards for 2015 -- no one wants three guards only and I'm not sold on the Paul White at guard idea, but there's no need to overstate the issue. While it would not be my first choice, I am curious why you don't think Paul White could not play the one or the two. His ability to bring the ball up the court appears to be at least as good as Jon Wallace.
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 21, 2015 20:02:03 GMT -5
Huh? Next year we will likely have Peak, DSR and Campbell. Are we still on this kick of "the roster says Peak is a forward so I will ignore that everything about his game says guard." We still should be looking at guards for 2015 -- no one wants three guards only and I'm not sold on the Paul White at guard idea, but there's no need to overstate the issue. While it would not be my first choice, I am curious why you don't think Paul White could not play the one or the two. His ability to bring the ball up the court appears to be at least as good as Jon Wallace. When you play him as a 1 or 2 he'll be guarded by 1's or 2's which negates the ball handling advantage he has going against 3's & 4's... imho..
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Post by MCIGuy on Jan 21, 2015 20:16:40 GMT -5
I agree with Blueandgray. When Reaves wouldn't be able to stretch the defense at all, people would be screaming for the next guy to step in. But Bacon....man he's exactly what the Hoyas need. Unfortunately, Bacon is off the table. We have two guards on the roster after this year... 2!!!! We actually have three: DSR, Campbell and Peak. I agree that we need more. At least one more.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 21, 2015 21:39:54 GMT -5
Huh? Next year we will likely have Peak, DSR and Campbell. Are we still on this kick of "the roster says Peak is a forward so I will ignore that everything about his game says guard." We still should be looking at guards for 2015 -- no one wants three guards only and I'm not sold on the Paul White at guard idea, but there's no need to overstate the issue. While it would not be my first choice, I am curious why you don't think Paul White could not play the one or the two. His ability to bring the ball up the court appears to be at least as good as Jon Wallace. I love White defensively, but man, White against a 2 scares me, much less against someone like Billy Garrett or Rysheed Jordan. He can use his length to some extent, but I think that's a horrible mismatch. Also agree with the other poster that the handle would not be great against 1 and 2s. And neither would the dribble drive. Although his post game would be strong. In short, I can actually see him bringing the ball up at times, but the other parts of the game ... I just don't know that he can play the full role of the 2. Could be wrong.
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