hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jul 2, 2014 10:02:47 GMT -5
Disappointed. Hoped he could be a lock down defensive player for us.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Jul 2, 2014 12:02:22 GMT -5
I won't be disappointed, unless this is the first of a long string of top guards to spurn the Hoyas.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jul 2, 2014 12:04:32 GMT -5
No matter which way you slice it, it hurts. I had the feeling all along that something like this could happen. We are loaded with low post players. As a player, you start saying to yourself, "Heck, where do I fit in here." I think we should keep the lines of communications open with the young man. Obviously, these kids are very much fair game to other schools even after a verbal commit. I believe another school--or schools--convinced him that he was not going to see a lot of playing time at Georgetown in his freshman year and perhaps for a couple of years. They probably whispered a whole lot of sweet nothings in his ear about how, alternatively, if he changed his mind, he could become an instant star with them. As I have said before, so many today are looking for instant gratification. I think we need to just stay focused. Let's add a couple of premiere guards and we will be fine.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Jul 2, 2014 12:58:37 GMT -5
No matter which way you slice it, it hurts. I had the feeling all along that something like this could happen. We are loaded with low post players. As a player, you start saying to yourself, "Heck, where do I fit in here." I think we should keep the lines of communications open with the young man. Obviously, these kids are very much fair game to other schools even after a verbal commit. I believe another school--or schools--convinced him that he was not going to see a lot of playing time at Georgetown in his freshman year and perhaps for a couple of years. They probably whispered a whole lot of sweet nothings in his ear about how, alternatively, if he changed his mind, he could become an instant star with them. As I have said before, so many today are looking for instant gratification. I think we need to just stay focused. Let's add a couple of premiere guards and we will be fine. It seems you've posted in the wrong thread Grahms, reads like you're talking about Dickerson..
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jul 2, 2014 13:17:17 GMT -5
No matter which way you slice it, it hurts. I had the feeling all along that something like this could happen. We are loaded with low post players. As a player, you start saying to yourself, "Heck, where do I fit in here." I think we should keep the lines of communications open with the young man. Obviously, these kids are very much fair game to other schools even after a verbal commit. I believe another school--or schools--convinced him that he was not going to see a lot of playing time at Georgetown in his freshman year and perhaps for a couple of years. They probably whispered a whole lot of sweet nothings in his ear about how, alternatively, if he changed his mind, he could become an instant star with them. As I have said before, so many today are looking for instant gratification. I think we need to just stay focused. Let's add a couple of premiere guards and we will be fine. It seems you've posted in the wrong thread Grahms, reads like you're talking about Dickerson.. Yeah, my bad! Apologies!
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jul 2, 2014 13:46:47 GMT -5
Mostly agree about not being too bummed but I could also see him being the next Oladipo. Which is why I'm glad that he picked Penn state rather than an Actual High Major school. Now there's little chance of him blowing up and making us upset he didn't pick us. Much better than him going to Nova or a legit program like that.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Jul 2, 2014 14:29:14 GMT -5
He's a much better prospect than Bowen or Jabril was, and probably is already a better player than both. But it's also a sign of where our recruiting is at, and where it's going if we let him off the hook.
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on Jul 2, 2014 14:42:12 GMT -5
He's a much better prospect than Bowen or Jabril was, and probably is already a better player than both. But it's also a sign of where our recruiting is at, and where it's going if we let him off the hook. Do you view that direction as positive or negative?
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Post by Problem of Dog on Jul 2, 2014 14:50:56 GMT -5
He's a much better prospect than Bowen or Jabril was, and probably is already a better player than both. But it's also a sign of where our recruiting is at, and where it's going if we let him off the hook. Do you view that direction as positive or negative? Positive. I mean, it assumes we figure we can get better players. Granted, we've gone down this road before and it's how we screwed up the Josh Hart situation. But you're going to make mistakes here and there.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jul 2, 2014 14:54:59 GMT -5
Decent chance Penn State coach Chambers gets fired before Reaves ever steps foot on campus...hopefully the Hoyas staff has handled things in a classy manner (I'm sure they have) and can keep a good relationship with Josh and his family, in case he's open again by next spring.
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Post by rockhoya on Jul 2, 2014 15:29:04 GMT -5
Mostly agree about not being too bummed but I could also see him being the next Oladipo. Which is why I'm glad that he picked Penn state rather than an Actual High Major school. Now there's little chance of him blowing up and making us upset he didn't pick us. Much better than him going to Nova or a legit program like that. I can't tell if serious or not....that's just spiteful.
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Post by rockhoya on Jul 2, 2014 15:30:38 GMT -5
He's a much better prospect than Bowen or Jabril was, and probably is already a better player than both. But it's also a sign of where our recruiting is at, and where it's going if we let him off the hook. Agreed. I just hope we didn't pass on him for Cheatham or Williams.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Jul 2, 2014 15:52:35 GMT -5
Yes, definitely hope we didn't pass on him for Cheatham. Saw Cheatham this weekend at the KD Skills Academy and he didn't stand out in any way. Granted, he was going up against higher ranked guys and he's not really a wing, but I bet Reaves would have made his mark.
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Post by EtomicB on Jul 2, 2014 16:32:30 GMT -5
Yes, definitely hope we didn't pass on him for Cheatham. Saw Cheatham this weekend at the KD Skills Academy and he didn't stand out in any way. Granted, he was going up against higher ranked guys and he's not really a wing, but I bet Reaves would have made his mark. I'm a Reaves fan too but Cheatham is a better all round player right now than Reaves imo.. I've read other reports about his ho hum play at the KD camp but I think the numbers he put up in the EYBL over 4 sessions trumps that.. He put 24 on TTO and their guards I believe he'd be a nice fit @ G'town
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 16:50:48 GMT -5
Agree with E.. Pretty much would put every guard we have on our board over Reaves. He just doesn’t fill any sort of need…
Like Cheatham’s versatility and the fact he has legit guard skills. Needs to get stronger in order to have a major impact at the collegiate level imo
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Post by rockhoya on Jul 2, 2014 17:01:34 GMT -5
Guess it's the difference between a potentially productive offensive player and an immediate defensive force. To each his own, I just saw reaves as a better fit in IIIs scheme that puts a premium on interchangeable players... That's why his rotation often seems small.
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Post by EtomicB on Jul 2, 2014 17:21:24 GMT -5
Guess it's the difference between a potentially productive offensive player and an immediate defensive force. To each his own, I just saw reaves as a better fit in IIIs scheme that puts a premium on interchangeable players... That's why his rotation often seems small. But Cheatham is a more versatile/interchangeable player than Reaves so that shouldn't be an issue if he decides to pick G'town..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 17:21:37 GMT -5
Guess it's the difference between a potentially productive offensive player and an immediate defensive force. To each his own, I just saw reaves as a better fit in IIIs scheme that puts a premium on interchangeable players... That's why his rotation often seems small. That’s a legit perspective but I would push back on that even.. IMO He’s great in a full court pressing role where he can get in passing lanes and and cause havoc but “on ball” he’s not nearly as good. Has the tendency to get really handsy like AB used to and pick up quick fouls. Also stands too straight up imo Paul VI usually put Evan Taylor on the opposing teams best player tbh… Not a HM kid but props to him he gets in his stance and challenges people. Never know the kid could be the next Oladipo he’s a ++ athlete. His upside is tremendous, but right now he’s way more Athlete than Basketball player imo...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 17:23:22 GMT -5
Guess it's the difference between a potentially productive offensive player and an immediate defensive force. To each his own, I just saw reaves as a better fit in IIIs scheme that puts a premium on interchangeable players... That's why his rotation often seems small. But Cheatham is a more versatile/interchangeable player than Reaves so that shouldn't be an issue if he decides to pick G'town.. Would be nice to have a 6’5 guard that can run the point… Hope this kid is lifting weights and thinking about becoming a Hoya
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Post by Talos on Jul 3, 2014 15:06:55 GMT -5
Guess it's the difference between a potentially productive offensive player and an immediate defensive force. To each his own, I just saw reaves as a better fit in IIIs scheme that puts a premium on interchangeable players... That's why his rotation often seems small. That’s a legit perspective but I would push back on that even.. IMO He’s great in a full court pressing role where he can get in passing lanes and and cause havoc but “on ball” he’s not nearly as good. Has the tendency to get really handsy like AB used to and pick up quick fouls. Also stands too straight up imo Paul VI usually put Evan Taylor on the opposing teams best player tbh… Not a HM kid but props to him he gets in his stance and challenges people. Never know the kid could be the next Oladipo he’s a ++ athlete. His upside is tremendous, but right now he’s way more Athlete than Basketball player imo... Interesting observations, and makes me feel a little better about him going elsewhere. I was hoping we could land an athletic defensive stopper in our 2015 class. Looking at our 6 recruits from 2014-2015, all have very good offensive skills, which I think puts us in a position to bring in athletic guys whose defense is ahead of their offense. We obviously didn't have that luxury last year, but with Copeland/White/Peak/Campbell/Govan/Derrickson, I think we'll have plenty of offense over the next couple years. I figured Reaves would be a nice complement to our other recruits, and would give him time to develop his offensive game. I realize we're on a lot of guards much higher ranked than Reaves, but I still thought he was a nice fit.
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