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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 4, 2013 13:06:13 GMT -5
SFHoya99, do you know what our AdjO rating would be in the Big East alone, or what it has been since the Pittsburgh game? While our offense is still ranked 126, I am pretty confident we have been at least a top 100 offense in the Big East (though those first few games would probably drag them down). As it is, the offense has gone up several spots in the last few weeks.
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Post by alleninxis on Feb 4, 2013 13:17:20 GMT -5
I don't know what it'd be Nationally dating to the start of BE play, but in conference games among BE teams:
8th in Points Per Poss - .992 2nd in FG% - 45.2 2nd in 3Pt % - 35.9 2nd in 2PT FG% - 49.7 11th in FT % - 67.3 12th in TO Rate - 21.2
don't know the O Reb % but it can't be too good. But, offense has improved and has the usual strengths and weaknesses we've been accustom to.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 4, 2013 13:38:46 GMT -5
Offensive rebounding has been much improved the last few games. Bowen, Trawick, Lubick, DSR have all made a positive difference there.
RAW O Rating is about 100. Given our adjusted overall is about 102 and how good some of the defenses we have played are, I suspect it has gotten better, but I don't know of anywhere that does adjusted conference stats. Also, the above includes Pittsburgh and Marquette, two real stinkers, as you point out.
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Post by CO_Hoya on Feb 4, 2013 13:48:56 GMT -5
I don't know of anywhere that does adjusted conference stats. Umm, HP does ( link). I haz a sad. In conference, Georgetown's adj OE is 104.5, good for 9th.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 4, 2013 14:20:26 GMT -5
Our last "two games in three days" of the regular season coming up... need to take care of the ball at Rutgers, hit the boards and use as many players as possible... then hurry on down to DC for Monday's game vs. MU... first things first Saturday.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 4, 2013 14:28:30 GMT -5
I don't know of anywhere that does adjusted conference stats. Umm, HP does ( link). I haz a sad. In conference, Georgetown's adj OE is 104.5, good for 9th. 104.5 would put us at 99th overall, which isn't far from where we are now (at 126). We are definitely playing better than those numbers the last several games, but we have also played some sub-par opponents. Regardless, we have made several offense adjustments (Hopkins playing less and not shooting, Porter and Starks getting more usage, playing DSR more to give us more offensive options) that are leading to a real improvement in offense, and you have to give John Thompson III credit for that.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Feb 4, 2013 15:09:04 GMT -5
According to this article (originally posted in Good Week for Otto), our aOE thru the first six games w/o Whit, the stretch of SJU(1) thru Louisville, was 110, good for around 30th in the nation.
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Post by Cambridge on Feb 4, 2013 15:12:07 GMT -5
According to this article (originally posted in Good Week for Otto), our aOE thru the first six games w/o Whit, the stretch of SJU(1) thru Louisville, was 110, good for around 30th in the nation. The weirdest part of that article is the fact that Gtown somehow joined the B12 without us knowing about it. "Georgetown started Big 12 play 0-2, got drubbed by 28 points at home by Pitt and then saw starter Greg Whitting get ruled academically ineligible."
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Post by nychoya3 on Feb 4, 2013 15:15:35 GMT -5
It's a little deceptive to just compare that 104.5 mark to the national average. Many teams with high efficiency ratings that have bulked up their numbers by beating up on cupcakes. Which is what we normally do too except this year we decided to score 46 points against Towson or whatever. That said, 104.5 in the BE would be pretty solid and would be better than what last year's team posted in conference. Actually, it would compare favorably to any team we've had in last few years other than the 09-10 which put up a 110 mark in conference. Of course they couldn't guard anyone either which came back to bite us when Ohio gave us 97 points and took five years off my life. Umm, HP does ( link). I haz a sad. In conference, Georgetown's adj OE is 104.5, good for 9th. 104.5 would put us at 99th overall, which isn't far from where we are now (at 126). We are definitely playing better than those numbers the last several games, but we have also played some sub-par opponents. Regardless, we have made several offense adjustments (Hopkins playing less and not shooting, Porter and Starks getting more usage, playing DSR more to give us more offensive options) that are leading to a real improvement in offense, and you have to give John Thompson III credit for that.
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Post by CO_Hoya on Feb 4, 2013 15:59:39 GMT -5
It's a little deceptive to just compare that 104.5 mark to the national average. Many teams with high efficiency ratings that have bulked up their numbers by beating up on cupcakes. Which is what we normally do too except this year we decided to score 46 points against Towson or whatever. That said, 104.5 in the BE would be pretty solid and would be better than what last year's team posted in conference. Actually, it would compare favorably to any team we've had in last few years other than the 09-10 which put up a 110 mark in conference. Of course they couldn't guard anyone either which came back to bite us when Ohio gave us 97 points and took five years off my life. A couple of points: - the adjusted stats are supposed to account for beating up on cupcakes (you can argue about the system's ability to do it, but Ken Pomeroy recently defended ( link) his - and therefore HP's - method). - by rank (9th in the Big East), the Hoyas are indeed playing offense just about as well as the past two years. By actual scoring efficiency, this is the worst performance in conference since I've been keeping track. The Big East is just more of a defensive league this year. Georgetown's adj. off. efficiency: Season aOE (rank) 2013 104.5 (9th) 2012 109.1 (9th) 2011 112.1 (9th) 2010 118.0 (3rd) 2009 110.0 (11th) 2008 116.7 (4th) 2007 126.3 (1st)
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 4, 2013 21:10:23 GMT -5
numbers shumbers JUST SCORE ONE MORE FREAKING POINT THAN RUTGERS nuf said. go hoyas ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by profquigley on Feb 4, 2013 21:11:12 GMT -5
Just watched Notre Dame get beat by Syracuse. Both teams looked awful but ND is a joke. How's that team ranked? Oh yeah, they're ND.
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Post by biggmanu on Feb 6, 2013 9:45:11 GMT -5
I hope the hoyas have been shooting free throws non stop this week.
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Post by Boz on Feb 6, 2013 9:55:10 GMT -5
Just watched Notre Dame get beat by Syracuse. Both teams looked awful but ND is a joke. How's that team ranked? Oh yeah, they're ND. I don't know what you are talking about. Notre Dame is one of the most solid teams in basketball, with exceptional leadership and skilled players both inside and outside. (Not to mention all-world coaching, as everyone knows). And, of course, we whupped their butts real good! ;D
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Post by lda05816 on Feb 6, 2013 13:35:41 GMT -5
Althought the RAC seems to always give the Hoyas trouble, Rutgers will presumambly come in on a 5 game losing streak. With 2 tough games to follow, gotta grab a W here
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Post by Just Cos on Feb 6, 2013 17:32:05 GMT -5
The only thing that really concerns me is that this game is away. Rutgers is just not a strong team and does not have the home court advantage like they used to, but it is still a conference game on the road.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 17:33:51 GMT -5
A chart to show how solid our D has been for the full 35 seconds…
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Post by HometownHoya on Feb 6, 2013 17:55:55 GMT -5
Very interesting. Proves even more that our defense is awesome. Keep it up against Rutgers! Keep their PGs from driving into our D and a solid game from Hopkins would be nice!
So does that mean that Indiana lets in a lot of shots in the last 4s?
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Post by CO_Hoya on Feb 6, 2013 18:40:32 GMT -5
A chart to show how solid our D has been for the full 35 seconds… I saw this over at Casual Hoya. I suppose I'm the only one that is bothered by the fact that the last column (overall defensive PPP) is clearly wrong - or I'm just not understanding the table.
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Post by Buckets on Feb 6, 2013 18:56:24 GMT -5
Statsheet has us at 1107 points allowed on opponent 1040 FGA, 282 TO, 325 FTA. Using FGA + TO + .44 * FTA = 1465 possesions, I get 75.6. You're not going apples to apples for the <4s PPP if you're adjusting for OR, which I assume your overall PPP is.
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